No Edo is in there Prime

[Mellanoma]

Who came up with the concept of Edo = Prime? No edo was revived at 100% (Manga fact) so how can we claim shinobi are in there prime? Living Madara just proved this to us and he was improved more than the other edo tensei.

Tobirama even confirmed this with saying "You revived us at almost full power" and before you claim Oro ET and Kabuto ET are different. Remember Oro absorbed Kabuto and gained all his knowledge.

Lastly to futher back this claim when we look at the Edo in the history of this manga and how they were easily defeated. It is only logical to say that none of them were full power. Just cause you have unlimited chakra does not mean you are 100% power or at your prime.


Thoughts?

 

[נıм]

Fodder #1837 > Sakura

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

so nagato soloed naruto and be at the same time and he was not at full power. nagato is a boss

 

[SharinganisOP]

I'm not saying that being edo puts people in their prime, but unable to die a person could potentially be more powerful than they were during their lifetime. For example, Diedara while edo can take advantage of his stronest technique multiple times if he wants. Something he couldn't do while living. Being unable to die, not needing to eat or drink, and having the ability to regenerate chakra without can make them more powerful then in their life times.

Here is an example. Say edo Zabuza were to fight Tsunade. Zabuza would likely lose to Tsunade while alive, but while edo Zabuza can't die. Tsunade doesn't have anything to seal him with (as far as we know). Zabuza can't die, he won't die, and he can't be sealed. Tsunade can heal herself from almost anything Zabuza can do as long as she has chakra, but she is alive. Tsunade needs food and drink, and will lose chakra during the battle that Tsunade can't replenish without getting energy from some where (food and drinks). Zabuza doesn't need these things to survive and would likely be able to fight Tsunade and win, because Zabuza can fight forever. I mean it may not be the best example, since Tsunade could put a rock on top of Zabuza or something, but you see my point yes? Edos while dead can do things they can't while they are alive.

Then there is the very special exception that is Minato. Minato gained the kyuubi while alive, but gained control of it after his death. Minato is likely the only case who we could say is better than his prime while edod (because of the kyuubi).

 

[Grammar Nazi]

I agree with this thread

 

[TaBaYo]

I'm not saying that being edo puts people in their prime, but unable to die a person could potentially be more powerful than they were during their lifetime. For example, Diedara while edo can take advantage of his stronest technique multiple times if he wants. Something he couldn't do while living. Being unable to die, not needing to eat or drink, and having the ability to regenerate chakra without can make them more powerful then in their life times.

Here is an example. Say edo Zabuza were to fight Tsunade. Zabuza would likely lose to Tsunade while alive, but while edo Zabuza can't die. Tsunade doesn't have anything to seal him with (as far as we know). Zabuza can't die, he won't die, and he can't be sealed. Tsunade can heal herself from almost anything Zabuza can do as long as she has chakra, but she is alive. Tsunade needs food and drink, and will lose chakra during the battle that Tsunade can't replenish without getting energy from some where (food and drinks). Zabuza doesn't need these things to survive and would likely be able to fight Tsunade and win, because Zabuza can fight forever. I mean it may not be the best example, since Tsunade could put a rock on top of Zabuza or something, but you see my point yes? Edos while dead can do things they can't while they are alive.

Then there is the very special exception that is Minato. Minato gained the kyuubi while alive, but gained control of it after his death. Minato is likely the only case who we could say is better than his prime while edod (because of the kyuubi).

About Tsunade not having sealing jutsu, she has. She prepared the sealing jutsu to seal the three tails, so possibly she has others we might not know about.

With, Minato, although the kyuubi chakra boost him, it doesnt mean he is better than his prime as an edo, we still dont know what he was capable of when he was alive, so i wudnt conclude dat his edo form is too op dan his alive form

 

[SharinganisOP]

About Tsunade not having sealing jutsu, she has. She prepared the sealing jutsu to seal the three tails, so possibly she has others we might not know about.

With, Minato, although the kyuubi chakra boost him, it doesnt mean he is better than his prime as an edo, we still dont know what he was capable of when he was alive, so i wudnt conclude dat his edo form is too op dan his alive form

Where did Tsunade use this seal? Was it in the anime? I definitely don't remember it in the manga, if it was in the anime it is non-canon and shouldn't be included in Tsunade's total power.

And yes Minato may not be better than himself in his prime (which is why I said we COULD say that he is), but it is highly likely that he is since he can now use BM and TBB. He can also make the Kyuubi do a huge rasengan in the kyuubi's hand while in BM.

 

[lesley]

lol, 2nd mizukage held down gaara and oonoki, and wasn't in his prime..... he wasn't even beat to a point he could reform....so his edo tensei ability didn't even count
he's practically and theoretically bad azz

 

[AGoodBoy]

No one will listen to you. they'll babble on denying the obvious. Unless every edo said "hur dur i'm not at 100%" they'll deny it. People on here can't put 2 and 2 together.

 

[-Punk-]

if Minato is not in his prime than damn lol what's is it ?

 

[Xāvî1]

we know that already, Lol you're late