[Nin] Ninjutsu.

[Sasori]

The clones appear to be a lesser version of an actual clone. It lacks the capabilities of a normal clone such as the ability to attack, form chakra. On the other hand these clones could be great for distracting opponents in the midst of battle. It has the ability of being able to form anywhere in the users field of range something I think regular clones are not capable of. Advanced sensory ninja or people a doujutsu can easily see through this clone. With the Haze clone they are capable of communicating between the user. They will not be dispersed even if the opponent goes through them.

Question. Are the knowledge the clones have mentally connected with the user.

 

[Detective L]

Very good, and no, they are not.

Type: Supplementary
Rank: C-Rank
Range: Short
Chakra: 5 (per tag)
Damage: N/A
Description:
The user will use his chakra to hide a paper tag inside an inanimate object, like the ground or a wall. The tag can be a sealing tag or an explosive tag. The technique can be used to hide more than one tag per use if the user spends more chakra. Hidden tags can be detected by doujutsu or expert sensory ninjas.

Now this is quite a useful technique, where you will use your chakra to hide a tag inside an inanimate object, like a rock or a wall, for example. The tag can be anything from a sealing tag, to an explosive tag. These then "phase" into the inanimate object, and can only be seen with Doujutsu or via sensory. A nice technique to hide a sealing tag, or an explosive tag, and fool the opponent into a trap or so.

Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user jumps up in the air and then spins at high speed throwing a lot of weapons at thier enemy ranging from shuriken, kunai, shuko and many various other weapons.

A technique where you will jump up in the air, and use your chakra, as you spin your body. As you do so, you will unleash a volley of weapons, ranging from kunai, shuriken, shuko and other weapons. A nice technique, but very simple and can be used to attack the opponent quite fast.

Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Desciption: The user pulls out a scroll and rotates it around himself. Many spiked metal balls burst forth from the scroll to strike any nearby opponents or discourage them from using close ranged attacks.

Lastly, a technique where you will use a scroll. You will rotate said scroll around yourself, and using your chakra, you will release spiked metal balls from the scroll, to strike any nearby opponent and discourage an opponent from coming too close to you. Pretty simple stuff.

 

[Sasori]

1) A very useful technique can possibly catch the target off guard. This technique has many capabilities which can be very useful whilst in battle. Even though doujutsu and sensory can see through the technique it is still capable of being a sly jutsu. I really like this jutsu, because it gave been idea, which is that it can be combined with other techniques to prove a really deadly jutsu. The possibilities are endless when it comes to using this one. I foresee myself using this jutsu at least one if not more than that.

Comments:When using a technique like this one do you have to post the jutsu tag when you're using the technique, or can you just rp it out and when the tags activates that is when you post the jutsu tag?
I also like this technique because I can see this being useful in one of my puppetry attacks.

2)Next, we have a technique which is useful in attacking targets in all directions. It is also capable of firing off into long ranges making it useful in attacking. As said this technique is capable of launching off very quickly as said, and a jutsu where it causes the opponent to react quickly.

Comments: I like techniques like this because even though they don't say their dipped in poison, but because I have a Sasori bio all weapons in my arsenal are automatically covered in poison, So it makes jutsu like this deadlier.

3)Lastly, the jutsu only works in short-range, but it appears to be useful in keeping the opponent from coming too close to you.

 

[Detective L]

Good job. As for your question, when you are using it.

Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user unrolls in the floor under the enemy two small scrolls and summons many different weapons from them, taking the enemy into the air. Then they wraps the leg of the enemy with a chain and crushes him back down to the ground.

An odd technique, used when you are close to the opponent. You will unroll two scrolls, towards the opponent, and by using your chakra, summon a large amount of weapons from them. This hits the opponent airborne, though that's when a chain is unleashed from the scroll (one from each) and grabs the opponent's legs, or body, and slams him back into the ground. A nice technique, but a bit impractical.

Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description:The user takes out a big scroll and waves it in a circle. It turns into a giant chain hammer with a huge metal ball at the end that they then crushes the enemy with. After this move, the chain hammer turns back into a scroll.

You will take out a big scroll, and wave it around you. Using your chakra, this scroll turns into a giant chain hammer, with a metal ball at its end. The opponent can be smashed with this, causing the odd weapon to form back into a scroll.

Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: This technique is very similar to Twin Rising Dragons, but in this version the user only summons countless kunai from the scrolls, which are connected by strings at thier hands. They then throws all the kunai at the same time on the opponent.

A technique where you will summon a large amount of kunai from scrolls, by using your chakra. These are all connected by strings on your hands. These can then be launched towards the opponent, and manipulated via the strings, to come from different directions."

 

[Sasori]

1) It appears to only work in short range which is a draw back of this technique. It seems helpful in dealing with incoming attacks from opponents. Relies mainly on if you are able to make contact with your targets leg. I'm not sure how useful this technique would be in an actual battle.


2) A convenient weapon when you are in need of weapon quickly. The thing about this technique is that it will disperse the moment you make contact with a target. So it appears to be good only for one use. Can be good for other purposes other than striking an enemy.


3) This technique is useful because you have directional control over where the weapons go by manipulating the strings. Only able to reach up to Short-range which could be a big drawback.

 

[Detective L]

Good, next in line.

Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
description: The user summons a long chain from a scroll and wraps the enemy with it. When the enemy is trapped, they use another scroll to launch a rain of weapons at the enemy.

A technique where you summon a long chain from a scroll, and wrap the opponent with it. Once they have been caught by said chain, another scroll would be used to launch a barrage of weapons at them. A nice technique, very straightforward, though only short range.

Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user and either there summon or a partner combine into one transformation.
Note: Must have a summoning or partner to use this jutsu.

Another simple one, where you will use your chakra to transform yourself, and your partner/summon, into one being. However, this cannot be used to bypass some rules of having a Rinnegan and Sharingan in one person, for example. Its all for show, basically. Pretty meh.

Rank: C
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user can take on the properties of any earthen material they touch and harden any part of there body. This jutsu also lets the user turn into fine grains of rock that can be used to do another jutsu. The issue with using this technique is that the user will gain all the weaknesses of the material they mimic, even if they are granted their strengths.

A technique where you will use your chakra once you touch an earthen material. This allows you to harden a specific part, or your whole body, into said material. Though, when you do this, you gain the strengths and weaknesses of the material you assume. Very useful if you know where to use it.

 

[Sasori]

1) Has the disadvantage of working only in short range. A consecutive attack which relies on each one landing on the target, as one cannot perform without the other. Good technique to use if the opponent has been caught off guard.

2) Does not gain any other real abilities when using this technique. Can be used to scare the opponent or maneuver around easily. This technique seems like it can be pretty confusing.

Question: I have a question about this one, Say you have a summoning and the user uses this technique to merge with that summoning animal, would they be capable of using their individual abilities or is really just for show?

3) A useful technique which can be helpful for offensive/defensive/supplementary usages. You are able to gain the properties of any property which you touch. I assume this would also be able to be used on earthen structures such as diamond. Also, if you use this jutsu on an earthen structure you will be able to use it for a base for your earth jutsus.

Question: Does the defense of any of your structures you absorb equal C-rank

 

[Detective L]

First question, someone asked me that recently and I never got around to ask the higher ups z,z I'll be sure to ask, and let you know but I don't think you can use the abilities of your summon or partner when combined, otherwise some rules would be broken in the process like some techniques might say, "can only be used by "x" summon. Now you're combined with that summon, can you use the technique or not? You see? lol. Second question, unfortunately, yes. Just C rank.

Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: The user throws nails into the air. Upon impact on the ground, they dig themselves into the earth. When the opponent walks over the ground where the nails dug themselves in, nails pin their feet stopping their movement. Then, the user forms a hand seal and hundreds of nails shoot out of the ground at the opponent.

A technique where you will throw some nails into air, and with some chakra, as they hit the ground, they will dig themselves into the very earth. If the opponent crosses that area, the nails would pin their feet to hinder their movement and you will then form a single hand seal. This causes hundreds of nails to shoot out of the ground, and pierce the opponent. A nice technique, but the ranks sucks.

Rank: C
Type:Attack
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points:30
Description: After forming the needed hand seal, the user will emit a flying mist of small nails from their mouth. These small nails can travel towards the opponent at quite a distance.

After forming a few hand seals, you will use your chakra to emit a flying mist of small nails from your mouth, aimed at the opponent. These can travel up to Mid range, but Short range is where their use is at.

Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: After throwing a special umbrella that has been equipped with springs into the air, it releases a hailing "shower" of senbon. It cannot be dodged by moving away since the needles cover a wide area in all directions, controlled by chakra.

A technique used by the Amegakure nins against Gaara. After throwing a special umbrella into the air, one would use ones chakra to release a "shower" of senbon from it. It covers a wide range, and is a nice way to force the opponent into defense.

 

[Sasori]

1) This technique is only capable of working in short range. Can serve two purposes which is to restrain an enemy's movement and to also fire a needle at the enemy. A good technique to use if the opponent doesn't have any sort of sensory abilities to detect the hidden needles.

2) The user will basically gather nails within their mouth to launch at the enemy.

3) A good technique to attack multiple opponents at once. The large wide area it covers makes it a very useful technique. With this technique it requires for the enemy to block it since the jutsu can chance after you with chakra infused senbon making running away a less likely solution to this problem.

 

[Detective L]

Good good.

Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This technique allows the user to take on the body of their target. They must remain close to the one they want to copy for a short period of time. Their body will then shape and contort to resemble the target. The copy is said to be so good that even family members of the target cannot tell they are a fake. The user will even take on the smell of the original. Unfortunately, the user does not copy the targets jutsu, leaving them with only their original skills. Practitioners of this jutsu are also skilled in quickly taking on the mannerisms of the original person and playing up the character traits of their target. Through a regular Henge in combination, they can copy the clothing of the opponent. Their appearance will eventually change back to their original form after several days.

A technique probably only usable in the NW, where you will take on the face of another person, copying it beyond the level of Henge jutsu. In combination with Henge, you can fully impersonate someone, until a Doujutsu or Sensor notices you, that is.

Rank: C
Type:Attack
Range:Short-Long
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points:30
Description: A summoning technique meant almost exclusively for weapon's experts. To begin, the shinobi will remove two scrolls and set them on the ground, after forming the necessary hand seals, the two scroll rise into the air and begin to swirl around a middle vortex that is the user. They then use this space to launch themselves into the air between the spinning scrolls. From these scrolls the ninja can then summon a mass of weapons, which they then begin to throw at their opponent. If the first barrage fails, they can use wires that run from each weapon to their fingertips to pull them back into the air to strike at their opponent again.

After that, a technique where you will take two scrolls and set them beside you. You will then form a few hand seals, and cause these scrolls to rise and swirl around you, as you jump up between the spinning scrolls. You will then summon a mass of weapons from these scroll which can be launched towards the opponent, and if the dodge, the weapons are all connected to strings, allowing you to strike once more. Very nice technique.

Rank: C
Type:Attack
Range:Short-Long
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points:30
Description: This technique allows a shinobi to hover multiple kunai in the air while they approach a target. The technique allows a ninja to unleash a torrent of kunai, shuriken, or other weapons much more quickly than if each was thrown individually.

Lastly, a very nice technique, where you will hover multiple kunai alongside you, as you approach the opponent. This is done by using your chakra, and allows you to unleash weapons easier, than if you were to throw them normally.

 

[Sasori]

1) I don't see myself ever using this technique in an actual battle, but it would be a good technique to impersonate others. This jutsu would be good for stealth related missions especially in the ninja world like you said. It appears to be a very efficient jutsu since it even copies the scent of the target, though with the jutsu you have to be close to your target in order for you to pull it off. An advanced copying technique that requires for a doujutsu or sensor specialist to see through it.

2) A good technique since it is able to work in long range. Also, the thing with this jutsu is that you are able to immediately strike again with the hidden wires attached to the weapons, if your first attempt missed. The strings attached to the weapons give the user directional control over where the weapons are heading, making it a deadlier technique.

3) This jutsu enables to the user to fire projectile into long range which can be very useful. A faster way of firing off projectiles than having to do it by hand. Gives you the edge in a battle if your opponent is throwing kunai manually.

 

[Detective L]

Indeed, next in line.

Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: Utilizing chakra, the user is able to activate the explosion mechanism of a distant bomb tag. The exploding tags that the Third Hokage used were different than the usual bomb tags, being yellow in color instead of white with a red border.

A technique where you will use your chakra to activate a bomb tag, causing it to explode (after it has been thrown and what not). This is different bomb tags than the usual ones, being yellow instead of white with a red border.

Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user will jump into the air and begin spinning around rapidly whislt releasing a continous amount of kunai converging in all directions around them.

Another simple one, where you will jump into the air, and spin your bodily rapidly, and through the help of chakra, releasing a large amount of kunai in all directions. Its a nice way to cover yourself in an omni-directional manner.

Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: N/A
Description: This technique enables the user to project an image of themselves in the sky in order to send a message. This technique can work as a good diversionary technique.

Lastly, a technique where you will use your chakra to project an image of yourself in the sky, so you send messages to people, who are a bit far away. It also works well as a diversion technique.

 

[Sasori]

1) It is shown to have a different appearance than your ordinary paper bombs. With this type of bomb it seems like you could use it in order to distract the enemy or draw attention away from yourself. Basically by generating you chakra into the paper bomb you are capable of setting it off remotely. A good jutsu to also cause explosions from a large distance. Also, as the jutsu tag states it is capable of being used and set off in long range which can be very useful.

2) A pretty straight forward technique where you will jump in the air and use your chakra to unleash kunai from all directions. A good technique to take down multiply enemies or clones at once. Also useful in reducing your opponents chance of evading the technique from a certain angle.

3) (This is basically like the move Hiruko used to project himself upon the Hidden Leaf right.)
A technique which has several supplementary uses to be used outside and inside of battles. It has the advantage of the user being able to use it in long ranges. A useful technique to communicate between team mates who are further away than yourself. This technique also appears to be really visible as it can be seen as a very large spectrum. It also possesses the ability to distract an enemy with a figure in the sky, leaving them open for an attack.

Question: With this technique, does the user have to be focused on sending the message and not anything else?

 

[Detective L]

Yeah, pretty much, since the technique requires focus and chakra. Now for the last C rank.

Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: N/A
Damage points: 30
Description: The user will throw three paper bombs connected to kunai that act like parachutes and float down above the enemy. The user will then make the confrontation hand seal to explode the explosive tags when they reach their desired location.

Pretty simple, you will throw three paper bombs towards the opponent. These are connected to kunai, that act like parachutes which float down from above, onto the opponent. With the confrontation seal, you will cause the paper bombs to explode, when it had reached its desired location.

 

[Sasori]

1) The user has the ability to set off the paper bombs whenever they choose to. The parachutes possibly flow down slowly to the ground allowing for the opponent to see exactly where they are going to land, but not where they are going to go off.

 

[Detective L]

Neat, now the B ranks!

PS: Remind me to teach you the Rasengan, and variants too. They're in a separate thing, and I always forget them z,z

Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 20 (-5 per turn)
Damage points: N/A
Description: Using this jutsu, the user can merge with another passive object and take on its properties to avoid any damage. While merged, the user is virtually undetected unless the enemy has a doujutsu. Even chakra sensors won't be able to pinpoint the users position. The limitation of the technique is that to use a technique and mold chakra, the user must fully unmerge although doing so doesn't produce any sound and the user can only be sensed once fully unmerged. The user is still aware of the world outside the object and can travel inside it at his normal running speed. The technique was used so far by 3 ninjas (Yamato, Orochimaru and Uchiha Madara) but as an advanced ninjutsu, it can be used by any skilled enough ninja.
Note: the user must be Sannin Rank and above
Note: Orochimaru and Yamato can use it 5 times per battle, Uchiha Madara can use it 3 times, other ninjas can use it twice.
Note: Cannot merge into mediums which aren't tangible

One of the most used Ninjutsu techniques. Using you chakra, you will merge your body with another passive object and take on its properties. This allows you to move through solid rock, or Earth, or anything that inanimate and tangible. Once merged, you can't be sensed until you emerge from said material. Once inside, you move at your base speed, and you are even aware of your outside world. Pretty epic for those stealth types.

Type: Supplementary
Rank: B-Rank
Range: Short
Chakra: 20
Damage: N/A
Description:
After doing the Ram seal, the user will put his palm close to a hidden explosive tag or sealing tag and will draw it out towards his hand. If the tag is inside a solid object it will warp through it towards the users palm. The technique disables the tag as it draws near the users hand in the case its an explosive tag.

After forming the Ram hand seal, you will use your chakra and bring your palm close to a tag that has been hidden within an object, or one that you want to disable, as the technique does that as well. So remember the C rank technique that allows you to hide the tags? This one is used to bring 'em out.

Rank:B
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:20
Damage Points:N/A
Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones. Upon impact, the clone can be dispersed.

The most famous Ninjutsu technique, Shadow Clones. Using your chakra, you will create another "you" that's tangible and has substance. This clone can use whatever you know, and if it is damaged, it disperses. Once it disperses though, all its knowledge goes back to you. Very nice technique. You can make up to four, as per rules.

 

[Sasori]

1) A good technique to avoid high scale jutsus by merging with your surroundings. As long as there is a object around you which you can merge with then you will be able to successfully hide from enemy attacks. This is also a very good stealth technique because not even chakra sensors are a capable locating exactly where you are. Usually the only person who would be able to sense you are doujutsu users. You are even able to be sense while you are inside of it, and you do not produce any noise when you are reemerging. One drawback of this technique is that you cannot use techniques while merged together, and you have to fully reemerge before you can.

2) A handy technique to avoid setting off a tag in an area. Useful when you have to remove tags or deactivate them. The about this technique is that you will most likely have to know where the tag is in order for you to remove it.

3) One of the most useful ninjutsu techniques out there. There are countless possibilities that these clones can be used for. You can only make four clones which are in short range of the user. This different from the Haze clones because these clones area actually tangible, and will disperse when hit with a strong enough move. The clone can use any of the known jutus known by the users and any new information gathered by the clone will return to the original after it has been dispersed. I assume it would take a sensory of doujutsu user to differentiate between the user and the clones.

 

[Detective L]

Very good, and yeah, pretty much.

Rank: B
Type: Supplementary, Defence
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: This summoning creates a demonic form of the main gate of old Kyoto, which is capable of blocking almost any attack. The Rashomon stands tall and wide covering a range of about 10 meters in width and height.
Note: This technique can only block B rank and below.

A summoning technique, where you literally summon forth the demonic gate of Old Kyoto. This gate can block up to B rank and below Ninjutsu, and stands quite tall, at around 10 meters in height and width. If you want to tank a large technique, and really see no way out, and its within the parameters of B rank and below, this technique is for you.

Rank: B
Type: Defensive, Supplementary
Range: short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: After performing the needed hand seals the user can manipulate metal strings to form a protective dome. This dome is capable of repelling most basic Taijutsu attacks up to A rank. The user can reshape the wire within the dome, changing it to a binding string with ease, however it is weak to lightning based techniques.

A technique where you form a few hand seals, and then manipulate some metal strings, into a dome. This can be formed around you, to stop basic Taijutsu techniques up to A rank, and if the dome is shaped with the opponent in there with you, you can manipulate it to capture the opponent. The dome is weak to Lightning of course, since its metal and conducts it.

Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user after creating a shadow clone and grabs it then transforming into a Fuma Shuriken that is then thrown at the enemy the shuriken then turns back into the shadow clone who then punches the target in the face.
Note: Can also add kunai for extra damage and must create one shadow clone before use.

After the creation of a shadow clone, you will grab it and transform it into a Fuma Shuriken. This can be thrown towards the opponent, and the shuriken would then be turned back into a shadow clone and punch the opponent in the face. A nice technique to use when under the cover of mist, or smoke. And once that clone turns back, it can do pretty much anything, and it will be close too.

 

[Sasori]

1) A useful technique when you need to counter large scale jutsu. It can even defend up against B-rank jutsu and below! This technique is very large as well as it stands about 10 meters in height. Also, who knows what else kind of supplementary usages a techniques could have when in a situation.

2) Next, we have a technique which you can use to avoid high scale or even low scale taijutsu strikes from an enemy. Useful to avoid close combat strikes from landing on you. On the other hand it has a weakness to lightning based attacks since they are capable of slicing right through the wires. This jutsu can also have supplementary usages once inside, such as reshaping the strings in the barrier in order to bind or restrain the enemy's movement. When inside you are capable of using the wires to your advantage.

3) Lastly, we have a technique which requires the user to have a shadow clone present in order to use it. A good way to catch the enemy off guard with an unexpected strike. Also, we were thinking the same thing when you said to use it under the cover a smoke, because the enemy would not know that the shuricken was actually a clone in disguise therefore making it more deadly. Works in long range which can really useful in battle. Once the clone has reached the designated area it can transform back, and do basically anything. The thing with this jutsu is that it could possibly be used with clone variations such as lightning clones.

 

[Detective L]

Nah, just Shadow Clones. Anyway, next in line.

Rank: B
Type: Defensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user summons a large iron dome from one of their scrolls that covers themselves and even their teammates from enemies' attacks.
Note: Can only defend against B rank and down but doesnt block techniques directed from beneath.

A simple technique where you will use your chakra to summon a large iron dome from a scroll, that covers yourself within it. This allows you to defend against B rank and below Ninjutsu, but leaves you open to attacks from below. Simple, and useful in certain instances.

Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user uses two scrolls and makes multiple weapons come out from them and float in the air. After the final blade causes the opponent to fly up into the air, The user uses a chain to bring their opponent down to the ground and then hits them again with the weapons. Using this attack allows the user to summon more weapons than usual for subsequent attacks.

After that, a technique, where you will use two scrolls, and use your chakra to cause a large amount of weapons to come from them, which hits the opponent into the air (vague description, but I believe the scrolls are slid beneath the opponent). You will then use a chain to bring the opponent down, and the weapons, now floating, would come down upon the opponent.

Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user summons several weapons connected together by strings and jumps into the air, reeling them together to stack on top of each other. They then stands on the top weapon on one foot, and twirls backwards, shooting the string-wealed ninja tools at the opponent like a machine gun.

Lastly, the weirdest technique around, where you will summon a large amount of weapons, all connected by string. You will then jump into the air, and reel them together, causing them to stack on top of each other, forming into a structure of sorts. You will then stand on top of the structure of weapons, and perform a flip like action, which shoots the weapons towards the opponent like a machine gun. Quite weird technique overall, but it basically uses the strings connected to the weapons, and connected to your leg, if you flip, it fires the weapons. Here's an illustration as well.

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