Ninja Wise: Tobirama > Minato.

KingHashirama

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See now this has been on my mind A LOT. So, lets look at their abilities first shall we.

Tobirama:

1. Master MASTER water user
2. Edo tensei User
3. S/T User
4. predicting him to be a expert in seals also

Minato:

1. Frog summons
2. S/T user
3. Good with seals.

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NOW LETS GO INTO MORE DETAILS.


Summonings:

-Tobirama has undying bodies under his control. BUT we still don't know if he can use it like Kabuto. BUT the kages do acknowledge his Edo Tensei.

- Minato has Gamabunta. and that is one BIG frog.

BUT the summoning of Edo tensei is better. But it also depends on the ninjas he summons.


S/T JUTSU:

- Tobirama's S/T jutsu isn't really shown. But by what Minato said it must have been pretty on par with FTG.

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-Minato was known as the fastest shinobi due to his FTG

Minato has this one down tho. Even those S/T jutsu is instant.. there is still the traveling speed and who can do it better. But this one goes to Minato.


Seals:


- Tobirama is a senju .. Senju are pretty good with seals. His brother was a seals expert. So I'm pretty sure he learned something from his brother.

- Minato learned from his Wife who was a Uzumaki and also he proved his expertise in sealing by doing a complex ass seal on Naruto ;x.

This one would be a tie. why? Because Tobirama has not been shown to use them. BUT the people he was with and the title he had, makes him more more expert then a guy who learned from his wife.

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Simple Taijutsu and Nin-jutsu:

Tobirama has both. Why? due to him being a senju. Minato does have his Rasengan. BUT he hasn't shown any skills in elemental attacks. But I'm sure hes good in Taijutsu. But Taijutsu doesn't just = Speed.. It equals speed and Strength. Which a Senju is born with.


Chakra wise : Tobirama wins.



Basically most of the stuff that is important in a battle makes:

Tobirama > Minato.. Not saying that Minato can't beat tobirama in a battle.

But its saying Tobirama is the better Package.


PLEASE DON'T POST IF YOUR GONNA SAY WE HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING ABOUT TOBIRAMA. THIS IS FROM OBSERVING WHAT HAS BEEN SAID. AND IT IS NOT HYPE. BUT THE FACT THAT HE HAD THESE ABILITIES

Credit goes to : SilverSlick, NegativeKnight, and others who made Tobirama threads.
 
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So basically Tobirama is a better ninja because we know almost nothing about him?
 

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Minato > Tobirama. We've barely seen action with Tobirama, he's just all hype. Minato took out the 9 tails with one of the most strongest shinobi. If Tobirama does possibly have some abilities then his brother, then it's all a different story.
 

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I think they're pretty much equals.
 

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Please do post the limitless pages which outline Tobirama's fighting style and battle capabilities.
 

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Id say they are around equal, though tobirama tips him for me, for the 3rd strongest hoakge, behind hashirama and sarutobi respectively. Tobirama at full power would be a very annoying opponent. Edo tensei ninja's are very annoying, because they cannot die. S/t users are also annoying. Having both these technique's under your belt makes for a very annoying opponent. By hype he also belongs in an elite group of ninja''s with mastery of the 3 forms of ninja art. However minato is a master sealer and that is exactly what is needed for edo tensei zombies. He also seems to have knowledge on tobirama's s/t abilities, whilst tobirama has none on him
 

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Tobirama was brought to his knees by Kinkaku and Ginkaku and Darui took them out.
>No.
 

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I don't want to be mean, but... no!

(About Tobirama)
"Predicting him to be an expert with seals."

(About Minato)
"Good with seals."

You can't make comparisons based on unfounded predictions. The FACT of the matter is, Minato is considered one of the GREATEST seal technique users of all time. His mastery of seals comes directly from his relationship with the Uzumaki clan.

You can't just "predict" that Tobirama is somehow magically better than Minato at that.

Furthermore: Minato isn't just good with "frog summons" and other such nonsense. He is a master sage with superior taijutsu, speed, and ninjutsu surpassing any Shinobi. He invented jutsu of super-destructive power. Now please, stop trolling, and start studying the manga; Kishi makes it perfectly clear who the badasses are.
 

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Please do post the limitless pages which outline Tobirama's fighting style and battle capabilities.

o_O.. everything about tobirama's ability i have stated is in the Manga. I suggest going to Narutopedia and looking for the pages.
 

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o_O.. everything about tobirama's ability i have stated is in the Manga. I suggest going to Narutopedia and looking for the pages.

Please do post the limitless pages which outline Tobirama's fighting style and battle capabilities. Is he a laid back fighter? Does he like to go for the kill immediately? Honestly, making judgements like this without knowing a damn thing about this man.

I also noticed you listed Edo Tensei - an imperfect form. How do you know the ninjas he's reviving even retain their powers?

Honestly.
 

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The silver brothers were supposed to have left him for dead! Considering they got beat so easily, I don't have high hopes for Tobirama personally!

We also know nothing about the man .. His intelligence, Base speed or ability to think while in battle or anything, You can't say he beats minato when you haven't seen him fight, Considering people have been saying minato is a genius and hyping him to be the best with them having knowledge on Tobirama abilities!

I say minato!
 
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Please people the logical statement would be that Tobirama is the stronger of the two. He and the rest of his clan fought the Uchiha at their Height of power and influence, and let's not forget, MS isn't unique to Izuna and Madara it just says they were the first to awaken theirs so there could have been dozens with the MS back in the first ninja war; also Tobirama was a specialist at genjutsu as well as S/T jutsu and the ultimate at water manipulation. All he would have to do was blind Minato with eternal darkness and then the game would be over ( that's an overstatement, but i'm just trying to make a point); and lastly don't forget he helped to train and mold the greatest shinobi Konoha has ever seen, Sarutobi Hiruzen the God of shinobi, Tobirama's credentials far exceed that of Minatos.
 

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Please do post the limitless pages which outline Tobirama's fighting style and battle capabilities. Is he a laid back fighter? Does he like to go for the kill immediately? Honestly, making judgements like this without knowing a damn thing about this man.

I also noticed you listed Edo Tensei - an imperfect form. How do you know the ninjas he's reviving even retain their powers?

Honestly.

Oh i gotcha ;x I thought were being "know-it-all" but never mind. Actually he has shown to be a head on type of a guy and a leader type. (Sarutobi flashback).

We don't know crap a bout both.... Have we seen Minato's full arsenal ?? If so then hes not close to Tobirama's..
 
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