New Orochimaru can use Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, Susano'O

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Orochimaru has the Sharingan and all its stages.

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In the picture above Orochimaru released the 6 Zetsu from Sasukes body Tobi had secretly placed in him. 4 of the bodies were used to reanimate the Hokage, 1 was killed by Juugo, and the final was used as Orochimarus new body after his old man died from releasing the souls of the Hokage.

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Above you see Orochimaru slither in its mouth and he takes form in the Zetsu, his body now whole again.

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There you see Tobi explain that Zetsu can make perfect duplicates of anyone he touches down to there chakra. This is all reinforced by the fact they annihilated most of the allied forces this way by posing as their allies. No sensor ninja can detect them because their chakra is identical to the real person. They can also use any technique the original can as demonstrated in the Kisame and Bee fight.

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There you see KekeGenkai are no exception to this because the duplicate is a perfect clone. That clone is utilizing Hinata's Byakugan. The clone that posed as Neji also utilized his Gentle Fist to assassinate the medical ninja.

Because those clones were in Sasukes body they were all infused with his chakra. Since Orochimaru took the body of one of those Zetsu, he gains all the powers and abilities that his host has, which is why he wanted an Uchiha body in the first place (for Sharingan).

Orochimaru now has the ability to transform into Sasuke, a exact perfect copy, and utilize all of his jutsu including his dojutsu Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano"O.

Why has he not done this yet? We already know. Plot.



Other interesting things to note about new Orochimaru:

-He can use all Zetsu techniques, menaing he does not need to eat, drink, or sleep to survive.

-He can absorb chakra on contact with anything

-He can use Mayflower, where he vainshes into the earth untraceable by any means and cannot be detected because he is simply everywhere.

-He is now a top tier sensory ninja.

-He has Hashirama cells, big chakra boost and the Wood Style he can now use.

-Since the chakra is exactly identical, Orochimaru is technically a pseudo- Indra reincarnation which just reinforces the fact he can use all EMS jutsu easily as Sasuke could.

Yes?
 

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Zetsu can't copy kkg and dojutsu's like sharingan and byakugan. It might be able to mimmic their looks, but won't be able to copy their abilities and power.
 

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Zetsu can't copy kkg and dojutsu's like sharingan and byakugan. It might be able to mimmic their looks, but won't be able to copy their abilities and power.

Already debunked. Reread.
 

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That Zetsu part with the Byakugan makes sense. Black zetsu said that everyone will turn into Zetsu and Kaguya had tried doing the IT before so that's why it's familar.
 

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Even I, an Orochimaru fan, admit that this is bull.
 

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Gentle Fist, as far as I can remember, isn't a KG. He can manipulate the cosmetic effect of the Sharingan, but not the abilities. /thread
 

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Seems legit. Only a hater would hate. U_U
 

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Gentle Fist, as far as I can remember, isn't a KG. He can manipulate the cosmetic effect of the Sharingan, but not the abilities. /thread

Zetsu copied Kaguyas great doujutsu, the Byakugan. The Sharigan and Rinnegan ware no exceptions. Please stop.
 

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Orochimaru has the Sharingan and all its stages.

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In the picture above Orochimaru released the 6 Zetsu from Sasukes body Tobi had secretly placed in him. 4 of the bodies were used to reanimate the Hokage, 1 was killed by Juugo, and the final was used as Orochimarus new body after his old man died from releasing the souls of the Hokage.

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Above you see Orochimaru slither in its mouth and he takes form in the Zetsu, his body now whole again.

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There you see Tobi explain that Zetsu can make perfect duplicates of anyone he touches down to there chakra. This is all reinforced by the fact they annihilated most of the allied forces this way by posing as their allies. No sensor ninja can detect them because their chakra is identical to the real person. They can also use any technique the original can as demonstrated in the Kisame and Bee fight.

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There you see KekeGenkai are no exception to this because the duplicate is a perfect clone. That clone is utilizing Hinata's Byakugan. The clone that posed as Neji also utilized his Gentle Fist to assassinate the medical ninja.

Because those clones were in Sasukes body they were all infused with his chakra. Since Orochimaru took the body of one of those Zetsu, he gains all the powers and abilities that his host has, which is why he wanted an Uchiha body in the first place (for Sharingan).

Orochimaru now has the ability to transform into Sasuke, a exact perfect copy, and utilize all of his jutsu including his dojutsu Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano"O.

Why has he not done this yet? We already know. Plot.



Other interesting things to note about new Orochimaru:

-He can use all Zetsu techniques, menaing he does not need to eat, drink, or sleep to survive.

-He can absorb chakra on contact with anything

-He can use Mayflower, where he vainshes into the earth untraceable by any means and cannot be detected because he is simply everywhere.

-He is now a top tier sensory ninja.

-He has Hashirama cells, big chakra boost and the Wood Style he can now use.

-Since the chakra is exactly identical, Orochimaru is technically a pseudo- Indra reincarnation which just reinforces the fact he can use all EMS jutsu easily as Sasuke could.

Yes?

Can you please provide a scan that proves a Zetsu actually used gentle fist?
 

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Have not read one counter to my post. Seems all these trolls can do is troll. Oh well, as expected.

Can you please provide a scan that proves a Zetsu actually used gentle fist?

Actually he didn't use the Gentle Fist, when i looked closely and zoomed close it was a kunai close to the chest but I couldn't see it clearly, thought it was just his hands. It does not change anything though because Gentel Fist is a fighting style, not a Keke Genkai and I showed Zetsu coped Hinatas Byakugan.
 
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Have not read one counter to my post. Seems all these trolls can do is troll. Oh well, as expected.



Actually he didn't use the Gentle Fist, when i looked closely and zoomed close it was a kunai close to the chest but I couldn't see it clearly, thought it was just his hands. It does not change anything though because Gentel Fist is a fighting style, not a Keke Genkai and I showed Zetsu coped Hinatas Byakugan.

But we never found out whether he really copied the Byakugan or just the cosmetics, so we can't say that for sure.
 

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But we never found out whether he really copied the Byakugan or just the cosmetics, so we can't say that for sure.

The clone of Neji had the Byakugan turned off, so they can turn it on at will.

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Thats the flashback scene shown when Zetsu got Nejis chakra to change into him. Notice his Byakugan is on. The clone Neji has no Byakugan. He needed to blend in to assassinate the medics so it would make no sense for him to keep Byakugan active since we know it wouldn't make a difference.

If the Zetsu had just copied Hinatas Byakugan cosmetics in the heat of battle then the clone Neji should not have been able to turn his off.
 

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It is implied that the Zetsus gain the original's jutsus. The Kizetsu did maintain Shark Dance after Kisame left, and tried to use Giant Shark Missile before getting decapitated.
 

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The clone of Neji had the Byakugan turned off, so they can turn it on at will.

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Thats the flashback scene shown when Zetsu got Nejis chakra to change into him. Notice his Byakugan is on. The clone Neji has no Byakugan. He needed to blend in to assassinate the medics so it would make no sense for him to keep Byakugan active since we know it wouldn't make a difference.

If the Zetsu had just copied Hinatas Byakugan cosmetics in the heat of battle then the clone Neji should not have been able to turn his off.

That's actually quite a good point, I just rewatched those few chapters too but I did miss that detail. But then again this makes me suspicious:



Zetsu states he got the best clone jutsu in the world, so he'd surely be able to copy the Byakugan cosmetics or cancel them at any given point of time. And we can be assured, that Zetsu got knowledge over the Hyuga and their abilities, so he wouldn't miss that detail.

It is implied that the Zetsus gain the original's jutsus. The Kizetsu did maintain Shark Dance after Kisame left, and tried to use Giant Shark Missile before getting decapitated.

I've just rechecked the fight and there is no clear way of telling, when those two switched position.



Also we can't tell for sure which Jutsu Kisame/Zetsu really wanted to perform, as it never got executed. Also we do not know if Zetsu could use that jutsu by himself. He can use Mokuton after all which is a combination of Suiton and Doton.
 

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hmm....... very interesting. double Kaguya maybe
 

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Interesting but I don't think a clone jitsu could lead to perfect power replication. If that was the case then Obito/Madara could get infinite Rinnegans by absorbing and releasing Zetsu from them.

Also, the Zetsus had already attached themselves to the 4 Kages at the Kage summit so according to you they would have all their powers too. Why then wouldn't they bother using that in the shinobi war, they would've obliterated the alliance.
 
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One of the biggest bullthings i read so far .
 
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