New Naruto, Gaara and EMS Sasuke vs Rinnegan Madara

[Allan Hoshigaki]

I wouldn't go that far.The only impressive thing is his meteor, which CT more than rivals.

hahaha he could use all of nagato techniques did u not see him suck up the wind rasegan. also that one metoer attack is better than chibaku tensei. he showed us one technique from the rinnegan and it was better than all of nagatos techs. also tobi could use the rinnegan better than nagato. if im not mistaken nagato was given those eyes. the ninja who had it before them mastered it. madara and tobi. not to mention they have the sharingan adding more to the rinnegans arsenal. madara unlocked those eyes and read the secrets of the tablet he knows more than nagato. im not sure if nagato even read the tablet he was kept in the dark. another thing it almost killed nagato to make chibaku tensei. becuase he is not of the uchiha clan were the eye needs the body to work best. thats why he is shriveld up old man

 

[siyo]

Two factors allowed gaara to pull madara out of susano.
First one was onoki. Second was that it was an incomplete susano

Team overpowered kids have nothing which hints that they can win this.
Whilst madara can counter anything dished out by team overpowered kids, they cannot counter all of what madara can throw at them.

Also its been said that mokouton can suppress chakra

You still haven't answered the question.A complete susanoo would still be open to attack.

Also false to the next statement. Itachi only survived kirin because of the yata mirror which madara does not possess.Sand coffin can't be countered either...

hahaha he could use all of nagato techniques did u not see him suck up the wind rasegan. also that one metoer attack is better than chibaku tensei. he showed us one technique from the rinnegan and it was better than all of nagatos techs. also tobi could use the rinnegan better than nagato. if im not mistaken nagato was given those eyes. the ninja who had it before them mastered it. madara and tobi. not to mention they have the sharingan adding more to the rinnegans arsenal. madara unlocked those eyes and read the secrets of the tablet he knows more than nagato. im not sure if nagato even read the tablet he was kept in the dark. another thing it almost killed nagato to make chibaku tensei. becuase he is not of the uchiha clan were the eye needs the body to work best. thats why he is shriveld up old man

Nagato had the rinnegan his entire life which means he was way more experienced than madara.It doesn't really matter whether he was the the rightful owner or not since he still got to practise with it for a longer period of time.

 

[Blaze Release]

You still haven't answered the question.A complete susanoo would still be open to attack.

Also false to the next statement. Itachi only survived kirin because of the yata mirror which madara does not possess.Sand coffin can't be countered either...

Actually we have seen a complete susano and it doesnt have the same weaknesses as an incomplete susano. An incomplete susano doesnt have gaps in its rib cage. Infact a complete susano doesnt even have a ribcage U_U

You said itachi only survived kirin because of the yata mirror. There is some truth in that. Not because a complete susanoo cannot tank it, because it can. The reason why itachi survived is because he didnt/couldnt activate a final susano in time and its due to the yata mirror that helped tanked kirin.

Sand coffin can be countered if the user activates a final form of susano

 

[siyo]

Actually we have seen a complete susano and it doesnt have the same weaknesses as an incomplete susano. An incomplete susano doesnt have gaps in its rib cage. Infact a complete susano doesnt even have a ribcage U_U

You said itachi only survived kirin because of the yata mirror. There is some truth in that. Not because a complete susanoo cannot tank it, because it can. The reason why itachi survived is because he didnt/couldnt activate a final susano in time and its due to the yata mirror that helped tanked kirin.

Sand coffin can be countered if the user activates a final form of susano

I really really doubt susano could withhold an attack as strong as Kirin , but even if we entertain the thought, it would still mean Madara can't activate susanoo in time.He would be toasted and with three upper kage level fighters it shouln't be too problematic to hold Madara off until its ready.No tecnhnique is invincible...

And sand coffin would still bury susanoo and since the person inside of it needs to breathe, it would still be an instant KO.Madara would simply suffocate for lack of air.

You could be right about the ribcage scenario, however the bottom part of susanoo would still be open, which means Gaara could still extract him from underneath ( just have to be sneaky and madara would not expect it).

Only way I can see Madara winning is by spamming meteors.I know know if Garra's sand or Sasuke's susanoo would be enough to stop them, I doubt it.

Finally, Madara can't keep up with a full speed Naruto.

 

[AMJ89]

hahaha he could use all of nagato techniques did u not see him suck up the wind rasegan. also that one metoer attack is better than chibaku tensei. he showed us one technique from the rinnegan and it was better than all of nagatos techs. also tobi could use the rinnegan better than nagato. if im not mistaken nagato was given those eyes. the ninja who had it before them mastered it. madara and tobi. not to mention they have the sharingan adding more to the rinnegans arsenal. madara unlocked those eyes and read the secrets of the tablet he knows more than nagato. im not sure if nagato even read the tablet he was kept in the dark. another thing it almost killed nagato to make chibaku tensei. becuase he is not of the uchiha clan were the eye needs the body to work best. thats why he is shriveld up old man

Nagato wasn't given the Rinnegan. It was an awakened ability he got when his parents were killed that he used to avenge them with.

 

[Blaze Release]

I really really doubt susano could withold an attack as strong as Kirin , but even if we entertain the thought, it would still mean Madara can't activate susanoo in time.He would be and with three upper kage level fighters it shouln't be too problematic to hold Madara off until its ready.No tecnhnique is invincible...

And sand coffin would still bury susanoo and since the person inside of it needs to breathe, it would still be an instant KO.Madara would simply suffocate for lack of air.

You could be right about the ribcage scenario, however the bottom part of susanoo would still be open, which means Gaara could still extract him from underneath( just have to bee sneaky and madara woudl not expect it).

Only way I can see Madara winning is by spamming meteors.I know know if Garra's sand or Sasuke's susanoo would be enough, I doubt it.

Finally, Madara can't keep up with a full speed Naruto.

You really doubt a complete susano could withstand kirin. An incomplete susano has shown great feats which leads me to believe that a complete one is obviously stronger.

Sand coffin will bury susanoo? Do you know how huge a final susano is. Not to forget its physical strength. Sand coffin would have no effect on a complete susano, unless you believe it would squeeze the life out of susano?

A final susano has no gaps. No even underneath it. Look at the incomplete susano madara and sasuke has used. Then look at the complete susano itachi has used. There is a big difference and im not talking about the legendary weapons.

Also its true km naruto is faster than A, but madara was able to defend him self quiet impressively against A who started off with his fastest speed