New info on Obito

[Chishiokage]

I was rereading my manga and came to volume 27 when I was reading I was thinking about the recent chapters and how tobi was telling Kakashi he is nothing more than talk. Well in volume 27 Obito has a moment right before he awakens his Sharingan that he is doubting himself and saying that he is just talk. I kinda feel like, if Kishimoto was taking this into consideration, it might have something to do linked with Obito and Tobi. I'm not saying he is Obito but I don't think it was a chance encounter that he found Obito's sharingan especially since he was buried. Like a lot of people are thinking Tobi is probably related to or was close to Obito.
I just don't see Kishimoto having all these coincidences and Tobi not being someone that Kakashi and the readers would know, Why introduce someone we've never seen before that doesn't make to much sense but at the same time who do we really know that Kakashi would know. Assuming its an Uchiha, there are really only a handful we've seen Shisui, Fugaku, Kagami, Madara, Izuna, and Obito, These are really the only canidates. We know nothing of Kagame other than he was on the Second hokages cell with Danzo, Hiruzen, Torifu, Utatne, and Koharu. I persoanlly think he is a splitting Image of Obito too but that's probably coincidence. But he don't know anything about him or if Kakashi would even know him.
Shisui I would assume since he had his Own Space time and he had quite the reputation as being one of the best I wouldn't think he wouldn't need someone else's eye to Teleport so I'd say no for him. Fugaku we know little about but he was the leader of the Uchiha, and Father of Sasuke and Itachi but we can assume he was strong.
Madara was revived but still it could be him somehow.
Izuna we know little about just that he was Madara's brother, but I'm not to sure Kakashi would really know it was him.
And well then there is just Obito. And there is no denying that it could be Obito somehow I mean Kishimoto has hinted at this so many times it would be a tease to not be him. And he wants to give Kakashi more spot light soon what better way to do that than a back story of Kakashi's life and Obito watching him and getting bitter. I mean lets face it Tobi is messed up about something like he's bitter about something somehow he got hurt bad, So what if Rin and Kakashi had a thing, obito did love her. I can see Kishimoto writing about Kakashi's past again and explaining why Tobi is so bitter.

Any way I've ranted long enough I'm sure not to many will read the entire thing but to those that do You're awesome. And again no I'm not saying Tobi is Obito I still feel that the age is all wrong but it could be somehow we'll know when Kishimoto tells us. I just hope its not someone that Kakashi wont know and that we don't know that would kinda suck. Everyone is pumped to find out and it has to have a twist to it.
Oh and I forgot Setsuna but we know little to nothing about him as well.

 

[super sasuke22]

Tobi is Obito,its fact now

 

[Tsuki]

So far, we know that Tobi got Obito's eye/used it (most probably) but we're still unsure if it's Obito himself

 

[Priyank]

i dnno... if tobi really is obito then there would be some indication of it when he fought minato.

Probably stole it from obito's corpse.

 

[Titania Erza]

Way too long, make it a bit more attractive to reqd next time, but yeah dont forget kishi is a master in trolling xd

 

[Ryu sannin]

Tobi is Obito,its fact now

Keep dreaming mate!

 

[OhReary]

Tobi is Obito,its fact now

Not a fact till its in the fine print

 

[AmaniPaz]

We are unsure if it is Obito but we know its his eye

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Tobi is not Obito.

Tobi IS Zetsu Izuna with Obito's Sharingan.

 

[Ryu sannin]

Tobi is not Obito.

Tobi IS Zetsu Izuna with Obito's Sharingan.

But why???

 

[killa sage]

Tobi is Obito,its fact now

no its a fanboy of his :|

 

[Chishiokage]

no its a fanboy of his :|

Haha Tobi is an Obito fan boy that acquired his eye It would explain the bitterness he would have

 

[Higekage]

i dnno... if tobi really is obito then there would be some indication of it when he fought minato.

Probably stole it from obito's corpse.

this

 

[gordo1]

Tobi is Obito,its fact now

Wrong, you come off like a moron. Why would he say he got Obito's eye at the battlefield where Obito died if he was Obito, he'd just say he was born with it.

 

[Meowazziel]

Wrong, you come off like a moron. Why would he say he got Obito's eye at the battlefield where Obito died if he was Obito, he'd just say he was born with it.

than the mystery would be over.

The way he had said it, that he got it during the past war kanabi bridge, leaves options open for him getting it by unlocking his sharingan or by stealing.

 

[AntiHero]

Obito is not tobi... but Tobi does possess Obito's right eye and he states that he obtained it some time durrig the 3 shinobi war after Obito's death. I think there's more to this story and Zetsu, Rin, and Orochimaro have something to do with it...

 

[FizzyDrink]

Of all the choices you present in your OP, very few of them would actually work. Your biggest problem is that you assume Kakashi knows personally who Tobi is. That is not necessarily correct.

Of all of the candidates you present, VERY few of them can actually be Tobi.

Kagami will NOT be Tobi. He is an entirely useless character who is unimportant to the plot. No character has EVER mentioned him. He's a pointless character who we haven't ever heard talk, let alone fight. If he were Tobi, it would be terrible writing, and I'm gonna go off on a limb and say that Kishi doesn't want to create such a lame villain.

Fugaku is NOT Tobi. This shouldn't even be a theory. When Itachi killed his clan, we SAW him kill his father. Also, Tobi helped Itachi kill the clan, and Tobi and his father (look at their hair) look NOTHING alike. Also, Fugaku would NOT have killed his own clan, we can tell he was very prideful of his clan if he was attempting a coup for just that, pride. So Fugaku CANNOT be Tobi.

And guys, seriously, Tobi CANNOT BE OBITO. The biggest problem with this theory is the fact that Tobi and Madara planned the Moon's Eye Plan TOGETHER. Obito was not alive when Madara was, and even if Obito WAS alive when Madara was (which is INCREDIBLY doubtful, and most likely impossible with the rest of the timeline) there is no way he, at any point of his short 13 year old life, would have planned something like that with Madara. Madara would have chosen a more talented Uchiha, not Obito. So...Tobi is not Obito.

Shisui cannot be Tobi either because he's even younger than Obito is! So the timeline works even less.

Madara is also not probable. Tobi once said he is a shell of his former self, so people thought maybe he's a Zetsu clone or something weird like that. However, I doubt a Zetsu clone of Madara could use those S/T techniques that only Tobi can use (we haven't seen the actual Madara use them) or Izanagi. So this is a no (unless there's further proof to the otherwise...it's the most likely out of the ones above it that I've disproved).

Tobi being Izuna is the most likely. Timeline, height, weight, and motive all line up. The only problem is how has he lived so long, and there are a variety of explanations, a special new jutsu, or maybe Hashirama cells. His age would explain how old he looks and how he said he was a shell of his former self.

So I'll let you all draw your own conclusions from this.

 

[Chishiokage]

Of all the choices you present in your OP, very few of them would actually work. Your biggest problem is that you assume Kakashi knows personally who Tobi is. That is not necessarily correct.

Of all of the candidates you present, VERY few of them can actually be Tobi.

Kagami will NOT be Tobi. He is an entirely useless character who is unimportant to the plot. No character has EVER mentioned him. He's a pointless character who we haven't ever heard talk, let alone fight. If he were Tobi, it would be terrible writing, and I'm gonna go off on a limb and say that Kishi doesn't want to create such a lame villain.

Fugaku is NOT Tobi. This shouldn't even be a theory. When Itachi killed his clan, we SAW him kill his father. Also, Tobi helped Itachi kill the clan, and Tobi and his father (look at their hair) look NOTHING alike. Also, Fugaku would NOT have killed his own clan, we can tell he was very prideful of his clan if he was attempting a coup for just that, pride. So Fugaku CANNOT be Tobi.

And guys, seriously, Tobi CANNOT BE OBITO. The biggest problem with this theory is the fact that Tobi and Madara planned the Moon's Eye Plan TOGETHER. Obito was not alive when Madara was, and even if Obito WAS alive when Madara was (which is INCREDIBLY doubtful, and most likely impossible with the rest of the timeline) there is no way he, at any point of his short 13 year old life, would have planned something like that with Madara. Madara would have chosen a more talented Uchiha, not Obito. So...Tobi is not Obito.

Shisui cannot be Tobi either because he's even younger than Obito is! So the timeline works even less.

Madara is also not probable. Tobi once said he is a shell of his former self, so people thought maybe he's a Zetsu clone or something weird like that. However, I doubt a Zetsu clone of Madara could use those S/T techniques that only Tobi can use (we haven't seen the actual Madara use them) or Izanagi. So this is a no (unless there's further proof to the otherwise...it's the most likely out of the ones above it that I've disproved).

Tobi being Izuna is the most likely. Timeline, height, weight, and motive all line up. The only problem is how has he lived so long, and there are a variety of explanations, a special new jutsu, or maybe Hashirama cells. His age would explain how old he looks and how he said he was a shell of his former self.

So I'll let you all draw your own conclusions from this.

We should assume if Kishimoto wanted a good plot twist that makes a lot of sense that he wouldn't use someone we know little to nothing about. And he wants us to believe that Tobi knows Kakashi to a personal level and Izuna wouldn't really fit that. Plus why would Izuna be so bitter toward the world we have never been given that Motive so if it were Izuna, assuming its Only Izuna and not more than one person in a single body, then that would be bad Writing on Kishi's part. I know the Age doesn't seem to match up with Obito but there can be no denying that someone could have implanted cells transfered his soul. I mean why would you seek out a 13 year old who didn't really seem to be that great is beyond me but it very well could be the case maybe his father was great and had great siblings which would suggest that he too would be great. Hopefully we find out next chapter once and for all.
I do like your analysis though.

 

[FizzyDrink]

We should assume if Kishimoto wanted a good plot twist that makes a lot of sense that he wouldn't use someone we know little to nothing about. And he wants us to believe that Tobi knows Kakashi to a personal level and Izuna wouldn't really fit that. Plus why would Izuna be so bitter toward the world we have never been given that Motive so if it were Izuna, assuming its Only Izuna and not more than one person in a single body, then that would be bad Writing on Kishi's part. I know the Age doesn't seem to match up with Obito but there can be no denying that someone could have implanted cells transfered his soul. I mean why would you seek out a 13 year old who didn't really seem to be that great is beyond me but it very well could be the case maybe his father was great and had great siblings which would suggest that he too would be great. Hopefully we find out next chapter once and for all.
I do like your analysis though.

There is nothing that indicates that Kakashi knows Tobi personally. The personal issue is that he knows that Tobi has Obito's eye, that's personal enough. That's obviously what makes you think Kakashi knows Tobi personally, but it actually should lead you to believe that Tobi is in fact someone who stole something personal to Kakashi (Obito's other eye) which makes it a personal battle for Kakashi. So no, Kishi hasn't indicated that Kakashi knows Tobi personally. And you say there is no motive for Izuna? Izuna WILLINGLY gave his eyes to his brother. They clearly share the same ideals, otherwise he wouldn't have done that. Izuna would be the best choice, and it certainly would not be bad writing for Tobi to be him. It would be worse writing if Tobi were anyone else actually.

And what are you talking about implanted cells and transferred souls? If that's the case, then it would be someone else in Obito's body, not Obito himself. No matter which way you look at it, no matter how you try to twist it, Obito, the Obito Kakashi knew, is not the person behind the mask.