Nerf for the Movie?

Shinato

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We know that if Toneri isn't stronger than Kaguya, then he will lose because of that. That would make for a really boring movie, so I think that Naruto is restricted to his usage of Kurama's chakra in the new movie. By this I mean that Kurama states in chapter 699 that if he gives his remaining chakra to Naruto, he will go into a coma like state. In chapter 700, which takes place after the movie we see one thing, Kurama still sleeping. So that is the basis of my theory, now let me explain.

From what we've seen of Naruto's design in the movie, it seems like he has a mode that looks alike the one he had during the first part of the last war. This mode (Bijuu Chakra Cloak) is something he gained after stealing Kurama's chakra, and he wasn't using all of Kurama's chakra, rather just some of it. When Kurama and Naruto linked their hearts, their power sky-rocked to the mode he gained with the coat. (The Kurama Link Mode) He later gain Hagoromo's Senjutsu and gained; Rikudou Chakra Mode. (Something like that.)

In the new movie, we know that he still have Kurama and Senjutsu mixed cloak. However, his new mode looks alot more like his Bijuu Chakra Cloak, rather than Kurama Link Mode. The Kurama Link Mode was only achieved when Kurama and Naruto linked their hearts. So if Kurama is asleep during the entire movie and until Naruto becomes a Hokage, then he may be severely weakened as he isn't able to use all of Kurama's power. (Well atleast during the movie.)

That explains why he requires the help of his friends and why Toneri is able to match him.

 

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Funny how this thread doesn't mention Sasuke, right?

 

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plausible

naruto & full kurama > sasuke & bijuu chakras
 

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naruto & kurama=sasuke

Chapter 698 disproves you.



Oh wait, you're assuming that Sasuke didn't use any bit of Bijuu chakra for this?



/disproved.
 

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I would really hate if that hapoened
 

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You forget Naruto HAS more than Kurama Chakra he still has the others

Why would Kurama go in a Coma he received his other half so he is stronger gaining chakra back
 

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Rsm Naruto is not even close to not nerfed Kaguya.
So i do not see problem

Rsm naruto is below kaguya , jj hagoromo and 3 eyed/ drg jj Madara

So Toner could be just yang hagoromo/ yin Hamura level.

I believe base Toneri will on par with bsm Naruto

Chakra/energy mode Toneri will be slightly rsm Naruto / rinnegan Sasuke
They most likely team up to beat him
 
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My favorite character is Sasuke.
However, it is clearly obvious that Naruto beats Sasuke.

Ashura transmigrants just don't lose to Indra at the end.
 

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I thought as well that Kurama sleeping at the end was a bit off. I like the idea of Kurama giving so much chakra during the war resulting in a comatose state since in this way there was indeed a drawback from this overuse but I also find it slighty sad to think that Kurama will never awake again. So, I don't know if I want that.
 

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Why did Naruto tie with Sasuke then?

Sorry, but no.

Naruto & Half Kurama = Sasuke + Bijuu Chakra

Deal with it.

Not quiet correct.
Actually, Kurama said that Naruto exhausted his own chakra in the war battle. Thus, by the time Naruto was fighting Kurama, it was only Senjutsu + half Kurama.

So, we can fairly say, Powerless Naruto+half-Kurama > Sasuke +nine Bijus.
 
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