Neji vs Hiashi

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Some people think Neji > Hiashi and are debating it in another thread so.... Heres a thread for that.

Conditions: Neji is obviously the same state as before he died but fresh. Hiashi is current and Fresh.
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Neji almost surpass Hiashi;((((((( he needed more time for that fk u kishi ;(((

Hiashi wins high diff
 

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Hiashi wins.
 

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So somebody actually did make a thread about it ehh???

Well i'll post what I already said:

It's a fact that Neji and Hiashi rotations are equal in size:

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And Neji's air palm has gotten stronger since his fight with Kisame.

And in any case what Hiashi used against the Juubi is a completely different jutsu: Air Palm Wall.

Neji can use it in collaboration with Hinata:

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But yes, i'll admit we haven't seen him use it alone.

But the Air Palm Wall is the one point where Hiashi beats Neji. But that doesn't proof he's a stronger shinobi overall.

A simply example is speed. Hiashi doesn't really have any speed feats while Neji has proven a very fast shinobi on several occasions. This one comes to mind:

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Those spikes we're noted to be incredibly fast, yet Neji managed to jump in and save Hinata before they could hit her.
And don't you think Hiashi would have tried to save his daughter aswell?? Yet Neji was the one who had the speed and reflexes to do it. Hiashi even saw the attack coming, yet couldn't react in time:

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Neji has also proven to be incrediblt resilient:

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He took a hit like that after already getting hit by 2 other arrows, yet still managed to keep on fighting an eventually won.

And that's another area that we've seen no feats from Hiashi in.

Hiashi could in theory be stronger than Neji, but saying that he's superior to Neji in everyway is just ridiculous.

Note: Put two quotes together so it's a bit different that the original.

In any case:

My point is that there aren't any proof or feats in the manga to suggest that Hiashi is a stronger shinobi than Neji overall. Maybe he is slightly stronger, but from what we've seen that's not the case.

And also:

Whether Hiashi trained Neji between part 1 and 2 and made him jounin is irrelevant. Neji has always been extremely talented as proven by the fact that he learned Rotation and 64 Palms all by himself, cause he wasn't allowed to learn them. There are also several proofs that Neji has improved since the start of part 1 and yes, he most likely surpassed his uncle.
 

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So somebody actually did make a thread about it ehh???

Well i'll post what I already said:



Note: Put two quotes together so it's a bit different that the original.

In any case:

My point is that there aren't any proof or feats in the manga to suggest that Hiashi is a stronger shinobi than Neji overall. Maybe he is slightly stronger, but from what we've seen that's not the case.

And also:

Whether Hiashi trained Neji between part 1 and 2 and made him jounin is irrelevant. Neji has always been extremely talented as proven by the fact that he learned Rotation and 64 Palms all by himself, cause he wasn't allowed to learn them. There are also several proofs that Neji has improved since the start of part 1 and yes, he most likely surpassed his uncle.

That wasn't Hiahsi's Full power Rotaion, fact:

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And when they were spinning, neji couldnt spin long enough while hiashi had no problem in the spinning department:

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Plus the fact Hiashi knows every tech in the hyuga clan and and everything neji has ever shown. To say Neji is stronger just because he has shown more feats is retarded and shows how certain noobs think. Untill it's stated he surpassed his uncle, their is nothing that even hints this nor shows this.
 

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Hiashi wins.

It is basicly Gai vs Lee.
 

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Hiashi wins.

It is basicly Gai vs Lee.

No, not really. Guy is more skilled than Lee, he can open more gates, he is faster, etc. The only difference between Hiashi and Neji is that Hiashi is taller and has ( probably ) more battle experience.
 

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No, not really. Guy is more skilled than Lee, he can open more gates, he is faster, etc. The only difference between Hiashi and Neji is that Hiashi is taller and has ( probably ) more battle experience.
I just pointed out it is a battle between two people with similar fighting styles yet in different levels.
 

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Hiahsi wins.This isn't even debatable.
 

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That wasn't Hiahsi's Full power Rotaion, fact:

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And when they were spinning, neji couldnt spin long enough while hiashi had no problem in the spinning department:

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Plus the fact Hiashi knows every tech in the hyuga clan and and everything neji has ever shown. To say Neji is stronger just because he has shown more feats is retarded and shows how certain noobs think. Untill it's stated he surpassed his uncle, their is nothing that even hints this nor shows this.

Lolz... So that's your greats counter???

None of this proves anything.´

First of all those two rotations have most likely been around same size even though it might look otherwise. The rotation in the second picture is by no means small. Look at those spikes for gods sake. They're easily 5 meters long, yet the rotation has a diameter greater than that.

Now look at the bottom of the rotation and how the spinning makes the ground sling around to all sides. Cause of that the crater would logically become a lot bigger than the rotation itself.

And if you go back and look in part 1, we actually only saw the crater of Hiashis roation in the manga. Not the Rotation itself.

Besides look at this panel again and look at the crater that Hiashi's standing in:

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Seems familiar?? It's pretty much the same size as the other 1 you posted. Besides why in the world would Hiashi be holding back his full powers in the middle of a war where he's trying to protect his fellow shinobis?? Cause he's a douchebag?? :D

And once again Hashi knowing all the Hyuugas secret techniques doesn't make him a greater shinobi than Neji. Neji knows all of them as well actually. Sure he can't use Air Wall Palm alone, but he can still use it :p And besides as I said there's more to being a shinobi than the jutsus you can use. Neji is superior to Hiashi in speed and resilience, and that'd be incredibly useful in a fight with him.

So i'm retarding because I say he's stronger for showing more feats?? I think saying that makes you look like a retard more than me. Without feats you can't proof anything. And sure it hasn't been stated that Neji hasn't surpassed his uncle.

But has it been stated that he HASN'T?? Nope... If you haven't got anymore than that, then I might as well conclude now that Neji >/= Hiashi.
 

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Hiashi would win high diff

His techniques are on anther scale. I would love to join this rather one-sided debate, but im too lazy and i got sum other stuff to do

Just my 2 cents.
 
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