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It is not like we don't want to have a tournament. You should understand that.
We just have seen this happening again in the past; means lots of work for everyone and in the end we come up with nothing.
It is not like we don't want to have a tournament. You should understand that.
We just have seen this happening again in the past; means lots of work for everyone and in the end we come up with nothing.
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It's known that tournaments have been a failure many a time in the past, but this could work if we are able to control it. I'm not saying we as in the mods do all there work and the TCS and others that are together sit there and watch. Since a tournament needs a host, active helpers, schedules, brackets, and a way to organize with with time, numbers, and rules it would be a great challenge.
Either way I'm up for making even a single elimination, specific jutsu, rank bracket setup tournament to even just test out the ability of doing this from a small scale. 20 competitors is very little compared to the amount of people that RP. Well maybe not but I say a good 30 people actively RP on this forum for battling. As much as it is I'm even up for a mission based tournament with rank influenced brackets with teams/singles setups.
Either way I'll show my support, but only me won't get the attention of the RPers. Well... Everything starts somehow if we want it to begin. First stage is to see the amount that want to enter, or if even possible, see if there is a way to make this tournament worth while for the competitors since no one fights or uses their time to do something without even a slight chance of getting something in return. I'm not saying a medal, a award, a title of sage, or even a bio gift but something. Not sure since you can't give much within a forum unless your mod/sensei/admin status.
Caliburn has every right to state his opinion of the idea since this is a suggestion and for suggestions there are people that want to express what they think about it.
It's known that tournaments have been a failure many a time in the past, but this could work if we are able to control it. I'm not saying we as in the mods do all there work and the TCS and others that are together sit there and watch. Since a tournament needs a host, active helpers, schedules, brackets, and a way to organize with with time, numbers, and rules it would be a great challenge.
Either way I'm up for making even a single elimination, specific jutsu, rank bracket setup tournament to even just test out the ability of doing this from a small scale. 20 competitors is very little compared to the amount of people that RP. Well maybe not but I say a good 30 people actively RP on this forum for battling. As much as it is I'm even up for a mission based tournament with rank influenced brackets with teams/singles setups.
Either way I'll show my support, but only me won't get the attention of the RPers. Well... Everything starts somehow if we want it to begin. First stage is to see the amount that want to enter, or if even possible, see if there is a way to make this tournament worth while for the competitors since no one fights or uses their time to do something without even a slight chance of getting something in return. I'm not saying a medal, a award, a title of sage, or even a bio gift but something. Not sure since you can't give much within a forum unless your mod/sensei/admin status.
Re: NB's chompionship
Less experienced members want to have more rules so that they have more chance of winning. But experienced members want as less rules as possible so that they can go all out.
To much rules and none of the strong members will compete because it is boring. To few rules and the less experienced members don't compete because they don't have a chance.
Do you understand now with what problems you will have to deal with.
One of the reasons why it didn't work last time was because there were to many rules. ST made a series of rules to make it 'fair' for everyone, but a lot of people didn't liked that. So it never came to a tournament because he didn't had enough people to participate.
Less experienced members want to have more rules so that they have more chance of winning. But experienced members want as less rules as possible so that they can go all out.
To much rules and none of the strong members will compete because it is boring. To few rules and the less experienced members don't compete because they don't have a chance.
Do you understand now with what problems you will have to deal with.
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Rules can be worked with. As much as tournament goes there is always pools to seperate the weak from the strong. Though this will mostly be the experienced members there is a ranked pools set up with a different set of rules for all the contestants. The reason why the last tournaments failed was due to the fact that maybe, I haven't seen the tournaments, you bundled all the people together. Too much rules and the experienced fighters stopped before they began. If that was the case it's no wonder you guys failed, not trying to be rude but it's true. Though it might be bad for the RPers you could have used the whole "Only S-classed ninja and above can enter" excuse to make it easier for you guys. One way or another it's down to satisfing both parties in equal terms. Just like there is a Winner's and Loser's bracket there are also Pro brackets and Amateur brackets.
Rules can be worked with. As much as tournament goes there is always pools to seperate the weak from the strong. Though this will mostly be the experienced members there is a ranked pools set up with a different set of rules for all the contestants. The reason why the last tournaments failed was due to the fact that maybe, I haven't seen the tournaments, you bundled all the people together. Too much rules and the experienced fighters stopped before they began. If that was the case it's no wonder you guys failed, not trying to be rude but it's true. Though it might be bad for the RPers you could have used the whole "Only S-classed ninja and above can enter" excuse to make it easier for you guys. One way or another it's down to satisfing both parties in equal terms. Just like there is a Winner's and Loser's bracket there are also Pro brackets and Amateur brackets.
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Re: NB's chompionship
Too much discussion for this and I think you are getting the wrong idea.
Let's be fair here. I will add a poll in this thread, since you can't anymore.
If more than 20 people vote that they would participate in this, then go on and make and present us your rules.
Sounds good?
Too much discussion for this and I think you are getting the wrong idea.
Let's be fair here. I will add a poll in this thread, since you can't anymore.
If more than 20 people vote that they would participate in this, then go on and make and present us your rules.
Sounds good?
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not bothered =/ tournaments always fails and its way too much work.
the last tournament we had, was a complete mess =/ the matches were fixed.
the truth is that ppl are not interested =/ bcz its too dam long
the last tournament we had, was a complete mess =/ the matches were fixed.
the truth is that ppl are not interested =/ bcz its too dam long
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Not to mention that the "judge" could actually take points out of you for no reason or just say the match was a draw when someone had already killed his/her opponent. All examples.
Worst thing i have ever seen happening on NB
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No, he is not lazy. He is letting you know that even if it is a success and people join and actually compete, finding a proper judge will be a problem.
Well, while I have yet to see a tourny on NB that managed to make it past round 2. I think it depends on other things. :|
1. Who makes it. The main problem is that nearly everyone who ever made a tournament, made it, and then left, went inactive, or simply didn't have enough time. Which is why I first suggest that a mod shouldn't run this (no offense intended). That's the first assumption of making a good tournament, that a mod running it would be great, however, eventually, there's going to be a setback, a hold-up, or simply a dropping because of a lack of time to run it. However, a new member should not do this either. I mean no offense to you Chidori Sasuke, but I don't think that you should be the one to run this. The people who run it should have experience, overall knowledge of where at least some of the previous tournaments failed, and an overall resolve of getting this done, but without rushing.
2. How much time is spent in preparing for it. Take the NB treasure hunt from a while ago for example. That was fairly successful, it's only detriment being the inactiveness of the Battle Arena back then, a problem that I don't think that we're facing right now. But much time was spent in planning this. Which is why I also think that if whoever's starting it was to start up right now, no one should see ANYTHING about it until at least mid-January.
3. Who participates. Like I said, we don't have a problem with the activeness of the Battle Arena right now or a lack of members atm, so this shouldn't be much of a problem. Just wanted to throw that out there. The NB League, for example, would have been very successful. But it was put on hold because of a lack of active, participating members and then... the incident happened. o.o
4. The rules and match-ups. This is a bit more specific, but it still matters. If a new guy is going against, say, HBA who's allowed to use customs then... :| Enough said. Like in the NB League from a while back, there should be at least two, possibly three, seperate brackets. And I do say PEOPLE because if only one, or even two people are running this. It's going to fail, no matter who does it.
So all in all, I'm not for or against this until I see that the above statements, which are within reason, are fullfilled.
1. Who makes it. The main problem is that nearly everyone who ever made a tournament, made it, and then left, went inactive, or simply didn't have enough time. Which is why I first suggest that a mod shouldn't run this (no offense intended). That's the first assumption of making a good tournament, that a mod running it would be great, however, eventually, there's going to be a setback, a hold-up, or simply a dropping because of a lack of time to run it. However, a new member should not do this either. I mean no offense to you Chidori Sasuke, but I don't think that you should be the one to run this. The people who run it should have experience, overall knowledge of where at least some of the previous tournaments failed, and an overall resolve of getting this done, but without rushing.
2. How much time is spent in preparing for it. Take the NB treasure hunt from a while ago for example. That was fairly successful, it's only detriment being the inactiveness of the Battle Arena back then, a problem that I don't think that we're facing right now. But much time was spent in planning this. Which is why I also think that if whoever's starting it was to start up right now, no one should see ANYTHING about it until at least mid-January.
3. Who participates. Like I said, we don't have a problem with the activeness of the Battle Arena right now or a lack of members atm, so this shouldn't be much of a problem. Just wanted to throw that out there. The NB League, for example, would have been very successful. But it was put on hold because of a lack of active, participating members and then... the incident happened. o.o
4. The rules and match-ups. This is a bit more specific, but it still matters. If a new guy is going against, say, HBA who's allowed to use customs then... :| Enough said. Like in the NB League from a while back, there should be at least two, possibly three, seperate brackets. And I do say PEOPLE because if only one, or even two people are running this. It's going to fail, no matter who does it.
So all in all, I'm not for or against this until I see that the above statements, which are within reason, are fullfilled.
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Re: NB's chompionship
Actually, the NB League did very well, though--for a while, anyway.
Mizu speaks the truth.
Actually, the NB League did very well, though--for a while, anyway.
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