Narutoverse's All-time Worst Motive of a Villian?!

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and for those people saying obito IMMEDIATELY declared war after rin's death your mistaken. his real plan was capturing kages and holding them hostage in order to bargain the alliance and hand over naruto and bee which didnt end up working. war was a last resort and wouldnt have killed that many people if it werent for kabuto entering on obitos side
 

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-Punk- your truly a dumbass.

You post the same shit every time even tho kishi made it clear that Rin isn't the only reason.

Oh well... :dunno:

yeah because he didn't just take over a Juubi by having a mini wet dream of rin like 3 chapters ago...
 

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yeah because he didn't just take over a Juubi by having a mini wet dream of rin like 3 chapters ago...

Are you reading Sasuke shippuden?

Last time i checked, he had a "wet dream" about His entire team.
 

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yeah because he didn't just take over a Juubi by having a mini wet dream of rin like 3 chapters ago...

So what? What does that have to do with him being evil? It was his willpower that kept him going. That scan just proves that his will to live is strong thanks to rin.
 

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So what? What does that have to do with him being evil? It was his willpower that kept him going. That scan just proves that his will to live is strong thanks to rin.

Thanks to rin exactly so that means his motives are Rin he may have said that it's not because of Rin but panels that show you what hes thinking disagree with that
 

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Thanks to rin exactly so that means his motives are Rin he may have said that it's not because of Rin but panels that show you what hes thinking disagree with that

His will to live is thanks to rin. His will to live =/= him being evil & idk where you would get such a ridiculous idea Zzz
 

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Then dont make up manga facts.
Make up what?
Your manga scans says exactly what I'm saying.
His reason isn't only Rin, but why does Kishimoto keeps showing us flashbacks that involve Rin whenever Obito shows big development?
Not claiming that his only motivation is Rin's death, but a lot of people can't help but think that it is, manga needs to prove a big point that it's not only Rin or his childhood Team.

Read my scan more carefully......
I did.

Naruto without minato is consumed by kurama & therefore not "naruto" so this point is invalid.

But there isn't a Naruto without Minato,
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No need to say this without who and that character without who.

& you know what everyone's excuse is? Rin, rin, rin, despite what manga scans show.

Never said that it was only Rin so don't tell me that, next.

Nobody can give any other reason for obito's supposed "terrible writing" other than the fact that he did it all because of a girl. Absolutely hilarious considering that statement isnt even true.

Some people think his reasons aren't strong enough to start a world war and wanting to cast Infinite Tsukuyomi on the whole world.
If he has a bigger reason, then manga needs to tell us through bigger development than before for sure.

Then dont say that he did because of a girl when he clearly did it for greater reasons than that. You will be branded a hater if you think that rin is the reason why he is evil because as I said, its simply not true.

Wrong.
First of all I never said that it was only because of a girl.
Second, Obito needs to show larger development than before and clearly show us what his other motivation is than just showing flashbacks.
There are greater reasons? So what is it?
World peace for everybody? Then stop with the flashbacks.
 

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Make up what?
Your manga scans says exactly what I'm saying.
His reason isn't only Rin, but why does Kishimoto keeps showing us flashbacks that involve Rin whenever Obito shows big development?
Not claiming that his only motivation is Rin's death, but a lot of people can't help but think that it is, manga needs to prove a big point that it's not only Rin or his childhood Team.

Why does kishi do half the things he does? Its his manga, he wrote himself that rin isnt his reason for turning evil & that should be enough but of course it isnt (smh). People who think otherwise are either trolling or blind because they cant read the scan above that completely contradicts that claim, in fact the whole chapter does.

Let me ask you this, are sasuke's parents the reason for him turning evil? No it was Itachi & oro who influenced it...Is hinata the reason for naruto to turn into kurama & go berzerk? No, it was nagato & kurama who influenced it. What about kabuto's foster mom? was her death kabuto's reason or was it oro? Nagato got influenced by hanzo & obito (most likely but not confirmed).

See, all of the above were influenced by forces of evil, madara influenced obito's pain by telling him that he can create his own world. On top of that madara knows of the uchiha's emotional state & can easily exploit it to make obito a perfect villain who wont defect.

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No need to say this without who and that character without who.

Exactly, so why bring it up?

Never said that it was only Rin so don't tell me that, next.

Well then why do you defend the ones who do think that? If you arent hating or trolling then you should realize that rin is not his reason for turning evil.

Some people think his reasons aren't strong enough to start a world war and wanting to cast Infinite Tsukuyomi on the whole world.
If he has a bigger reason, then manga needs to tell us through bigger development than before for sure.

There are multiple chapters in which he explains his entire reasoning, but people are blind to what they dont want to see. & He doesnt need to "tell us" anything because he already has.

Wrong.
First of all I never said that it was only because of a girl.

Then I ask again, why defend the ones who do think so?

Second, Obito needs to show larger development than before and clearly show us what his other motivation is than just showing flashbacks.

Again...He explains it...

There are greater reasons? So what is it?
World peace for everybody? Then stop with the flashbacks.

Read the manga, Im not going to post an entire chapter explaining his reasons for turning evil, but in a nutshell, it was madara's influence.

World peace would never even be considered if he didnt meet madara who made him turn evil. Without madara then obito isnt evil, simple....

& those flashbacks are all relevant so why complain...?
 

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Danzo is the worst but still he became good just before his death
 

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Obito wins this, and he's always saying it's not because of rin but it is, everytime he is going to fall, the one who makes him stronger is ''RIN RIN RIN RIN RIN RIN'' i'm tired about that character.
 

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Obito wins this, and he's always saying it's not because of rin but it is, everytime he is going to fall, the one who makes him stronger is ''RIN RIN RIN RIN RIN RIN'' i'm tired about that character.

Another hater who ignores manga facts, Lol.
 

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Why does kishi do half the things he does? Its his manga, he wrote himself that rin isnt his reason for turning evil & that should be enough but of course it isnt (smh). People who think otherwise are either trolling or blind because they cant read the scan above that completely contradicts that claim, in fact the whole chapter does.
In writing, there are things called show and not tell.
Then why the same flashbacks that involve the same person?U_U

Let me ask you this, are sasuke's parents the reason for him turning evil? No it was Itachi & oro who influenced it...Is hinata the reason for naruto to turn into kurama & go berzerk? No, it was nagato & kurama who influenced it. What about kabuto's foster mom? was her death kabuto's reason or was it oro? Nagato got influenced by hanzo & obito (most likely but not confirmed).

See, all of the above were influenced by forces of evil, madara influenced obito's pain by telling him that he can create his own world. On top of that madara knows of the uchiha's emotional state & can easily exploit it to make obito a perfect villain who wont defect.
Sorry,but imo it doesn't matter who influenced it, if the character is making the choices then the credit/hate goes to the character.
Overall that's not my problem, I want to see what his other motivation is aside from Rin and/or his Team.

Exactly, so why bring it up?
Did I?
Well then why do you defend the ones who do think that? If you arent hating or trolling then you should realize that rin is not his reason for turning evil.
I didn't support them, I said what's in my mind.

There are multiple chapters in which he explains his entire reasoning, but people are blind to what they dont want to see. & He doesnt need to "tell us" anything because he already has.
Then stop with the flashbacks that destroy that point.
Needs to show it not tell because that's just weak and boring, I want to see how strong his other reason isU_U

Then I ask again, why defend the ones who do think so?
I didn't.


Again...He explains it...

Then he needs to show it with actions now.
He already did? Then those flashbacks are just unnecessary then.

Read the manga, Im not going to post an entire chapter explaining his reasons for turning evil, but in a nutshell, it was madara's influence.

It was Obito's choice.

World peace would never even be considered if he didnt meet madara who made him turn evil. Without madara then obito isnt evil, simple....
Either way, he is evil and is a villian, and Obito is the one who's making all these choices, I blame him.

& those flashbacks are all relevant so why complain...?
Am I not allowed to? A lot of people think it's irritating.

I gtg, did these really fast.
 
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In writing, there are things called show and not tell.
Then why the same flashbacks that involve the same person?U_U

Kishi showed us obito's encounter with darkness, & he showed us how madara influenced obito to turn evil & how he used rin's death to do that. Rin didnt make him turn evil.

Also, please dont make me count all of naruto's flashbacks with sasuke, it's because obito is the main villain & he still has feelings for rin. This in no way changes the fact that he turned evil for other reasons.

Sorry,but imo it doesn't matter who influenced it, if the character is making the choices then the credit/hate goes to the character.
Overall that's not my problem, I want to see what his other motivation is aside from Rin and/or his Team.

Of course it does, if minato replaced madara then obito would not turn evil. Madara is the reason, his influence caused obito to turn evil, especially considering he was a teenager & can be taken advantage of at such an age.

If madara replaced minato in naruto's subconscious, would naruto still be good? like hell he would... He would be consumed by kurama.. Influence means everything & it plays a major role in their decisions, you cant disregard it.

I didn't support them, I said what's in my mind.

But when I show you otherwise you continue to deny it.

Then stop with the flashbacks that destroy that point.
Needs to show it not tell because that's just weak and boring, I want to see how strong his other reason isU_U

The flashbacks dont destroy the point...They prove that obito still has a shred of good in him, he still holds rin as a part of himself, that is something that madara cant take away. If anything rin is the only "good" thing about him. The reason why she died plus madara's influence was shown to us, we dont need anymore explaining.

It was Obito's choice.

Because of madara who influenced that choice. If madara wasnt there then obito would not have turned evil & made the choices that he did, end of story.

Either way, he is evil and is a villian, and Obito is the one who's making all these choices, I blame him.

As I said, you cant disregard the fact that madara is the reason for those decisions, not rin.

Am I not allowed to? A lot of people think it's irritating.

People complain, they hate. As long as there is something to hate on then it will be hated on, simple. People wanna moan & complain because of a few flashbacks then I wonder how much they were whining when nauto was nonstop thinking of his bff sasuke...:|
 

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Obito's motivation is lame.... RIN.... :mad:_@:
 

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Hidan was just a messed up psychopath, but isn't that why we love/hated him?
 

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Wow all of you people really don't understand a simple concept please read this thread. (ones who haven't read it)
 

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Worst motivation probably goes to... Hate to say it, Madara, Hidan, Deidara.

Madara... He was just... He had a lot going for him; 'Specially with a friend like Hashirama by his side. So, he faced some issues. He could have worked them out, not impossible things! Insteadddd.... "Hai... Tablut says I can rez evil demun and becume gawd! Cul!" -.-.... Dat Madara

You went overboard. Are you reading another manga or what ?

First of all he sacrified his last brother that he loved so much for the sake of Uchiha clan. He fought countless times, went through pain just to protect the clan, and in the end.. the clan turned their backs on him.. they betrayed him and Madara was left alone.. he had to go alone against Senju clan, he fought for 24 hours then Hashi, Tobirama and Senju clan managed somehow to lay Madara on the ground for the first time and he finally decided to be in peace with Senju and build a Village.. but then he heard how villagers talked shit about him.. how TOBIRAMA was talking to Hashirama ( Obviously behind Madaras back since Tobirama is a ****ing coward ) on how Madara cannot be "Hokage" he cannot be in this village and what so ever.. do you realize what anger it was.. :) Therefore he discovered the secrets about Rinnegan and all that other stuff and he created the Moons Eye Plan because that seems to be a better idea on how to bring "peace" to the world.. You just don't get it.. your mind is still too small dude, sorry.. you should stop on writing posts like that. Because Madara is probably the only Villain with a normal reason to be a Bad guy.

The worst motive probably goes to Obito, since his motive is RIN.
Don't give me that crap on how he said it wasn't just because of RIN.. IT WAS.
He was mind-raped by Madara, Obito is just a dumbass who doesn't have his own reasons, sad to say it.
 
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