[Discussion] Naruto's way, the only route to peace

[Meowazziel]

Naruto's way is the only route to peace imo.

Sasuke.
Sasuke wants to get rid of the current shinobi system(I have no problem with that), BUT he wants to do this, by destroying the Juubi and the bijous and maybe more.
Destroying living beings to achieve peace. This sentence alone makes the plan already rediculous.
Destroying 'weapons' is not gonna achieve peace. This plan is the most fail of them all imo.
You cant remove all the weapons. Give people a sword and they can already start a war.
They could even make war without swords and make themselfs into a weapon by using their fists.
You would need to destroy every living being, to get rid of every weapon.
Great plan Sasuke. That is some nice peace you got there, without any living beings to enjoy it.

Obito(and Madara).
Obito wants peace through Tsukuyomi. Forcing a dreamworld on everyone on the planet.
Madara just wants to rule I think, but if he wants the same as Obito, you can list him in this plan as well.
This plan will not lead to true peace. If the caster of Tsukuyomi dies, it is over (even the SO6P wasnt immortal).
Giving one person so much power, could lead into that person becomming corrupted.
If the caster of Tsukuyomi decides to bring war, it turns into war.
Even if that doesnt happen, the peace isnt true peace, because it is forced through a genjutsu.

People in the world need to achieve it themselfs.

Naruto.
Naruto wants to obtain peace through love.
Basically by making the living beings on this plant, want to maintain peace.
The people need to change. They need to want it themselfs and they need to maintain it.
Everyone needs to live together.
Naruto and Kurama becoming friends, is basically the small scale version of Naruto's peace.
They had a kind of war between them going on before that.

Difficulty.
Naruto's plan seems the most difficult of the three plans, but it is the only one of the three that could lead into peace if it is completed.
Sasuke his plan is the easiest to execute, but it wont lead to peace. So what good is that?
Obito's plan mid difficulty out of the three plans, but it will not lead to a true version of peace (better than Sasuke's plan though).

Do you believe Naruto's way is the only route to peace out of the three?
Why/Why not?

 

[Braveknight]

Dude, you think at the end of this manga a real peace will happen? heck no, peace maybe for 100 year, but after it WORLD WAR will pop out again, its a fake peace,

 

[Whirlpool123]

It's not peace forever only till naruto dies

 

[Versatile jutsu]

naruto not love path

 

[Aquarius]

Naruto's way is the only route to peace imo.

Sasuke.
Sasuke wants to get rid of the current shinobi system(I have no problem with that), BUT he wants to do this, by destroying the Juubi and the bijous and maybe more.
Destroying living beings to achieve peace. This sentence alone makes the plan already rediculous.
Destroying 'weapons' is not gonna achieve peace. This plan is the most fail of them all imo.
You cant remove all the weapons. Give people a sword and they can already start a war.
They could even make war without swords and make themselfs into a weapon by using their fists.
You would need to destroy every living being, to get rid of every weapon.
Great plan Sasuke. That is some nice peace you got there, without any living beings to enjoy it.

Obito(and Madara).
Obito wants peace through Tsukuyomi. Forcing a dreamworld on everyone on the planet.
Madara just wants to rule I think, but if he wants the same as Obito, you can list him in this plan as well.
This plan will not lead to true peace. If the caster of Tsukuyomi dies, it is over (even the SO6P wasnt immortal).
Giving one person so much power, could lead into that person becomming corrupted.
If the caster of Tsukuyomi decides to bring war, it turns into war.
Even if that doesnt happen, the peace isnt true peace, because it is forced through a genjutsu.

People in the world need to achieve it themselfs.

Naruto.
Naruto wants to obtain peace through love.
Basically by making the living beings on this plant, want to maintain peace.
The people need to change. They need to want it themselfs and they need to maintain it.
Everyone needs to live together.
Naruto and Kurama becoming friends, is basically the small scale version of Naruto's peace.
They had a kind of war between them going on before that.

Difficulty.
Naruto's plan seems the most difficult of the three plans, but it is the only one of the three that could lead into peace if it is completed.
Sasuke his plan is the easiest to execute, but it wont lead to peace. So what good is that?
Obito's plan mid difficulty out of the three plans, but it will not lead to a true version of peace (better than Sasuke's plan though).

Do you believe Naruto's way is the only route to peace out of the three?
Why/Why not?

Answer to your post

 

[Versatile jutsu]

naruto plan already work... 5 great nations already united

 

[Meowazziel]

Dude, you think at the end of this manga a real peace will happen? heck no, peace maybe for 100 year, but after it WORLD WAR will pop out again, its a fake peace,

Well if it will last 100 years, than it is a true peace, BUT with a time limit. It is achieved in the real world and it is peace, unlike Tsukuyomi genjutsu, which will probably have a time limit as well and isnt true peace (due to being a dreamworld and not being achieved in the real world).

Imaging an ever lasting peace happening in this manga (or anywhere) may look impossible.
However, if someone robs you for example, that doesnt have to mean war has broken out.
War is on large scale between large groups/nations.

If one generation changes (as is happening right now in the chapters), they could pass this on to new generations.
If people educate, raise, coach, the new generations well, than wouldnt peace be possible in this manga?

 

[Raekwon26]

Naruto's way to peace is some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard.

It'll work only because the manga is named Naruto and he has to win and save the day but the things he talks about is very ignorant.

The reality is that what he wants is something achievable in a fairy tail.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Sorry, I still see nothing wrong with Obito's way. The end result is literally the perfect answer and it's ridiculously easy to achieve if there weren't these idiots in the way.

Naruto acts like some prophet peacefighter striving for peace but he only learnt of peace in the last year. Much stronger and smarter ninja like Hanzo, Hashirama & Pain aimed for the same goal and failed. It's the fact that Naruto's goal is just unrealistic, he has no idea the peace conflict going on in this fight- he just sees a massive bad guy and is just throwing everything he has at it.

He shows no interest in learning of Obito's resolve and immediately declares him as 'evil' I forget the quote but when told about the moon eye plan's actual final goal Naruto just says something like "IM NOT GONNA BE STUCK IN SOME LAME ILLUSION!" He's thick. And if he is the one who restores peace to the ninja world, he doesn't deserve it.

 

[Versatile jutsu]

lol. sasukefan

 

[Mr Hiru]

Naruto's way to peace is some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard.

It'll work only because the manga is named Naruto and he has to win and save the day but the things he talks about is very ignorant.

The reality is that what he wants is something achievable in a fairy tail.

Or... Naruto will see that it won't work and he will commit suicide.

 

[Versatile jutsu]

so obito plan put peoples under genjutsu and remove their personality more realistic than naruto?.. all people go with naruto, not obito or madara plan

 

[Meowazziel]

Naruto's way to peace is some of the most ignorant shit I've ever heard.

It'll work only because the manga is named Naruto and he has to win and save the day but the things he talks about is very ignorant.

The reality is that what he wants is something achievable in a fairy tail.

Well, we cant do jutsus, fly, transform etc. in the real world either now can we? . The manga is in a way some sort of fairly tail. Might as well allow peace too I guess.

Sorry, I still see nothing wrong with Obito's way. The end result is literally the perfect answer and it's ridiculously easy to achieve if there weren't these idiots in the way.

Naruto acts like some prophet peacefighter striving for peace but he only learnt of peace in the last year. Much stronger and smarter ninja like Hanzo, Hashirama & Pain aimed for the same goal and failed. It's the fact that Naruto's goal is just unrealistic, he has no idea the peace conflict going on in this fight- he just sees a massive bad guy and is just throwing everything he has at it.

He shows no interest in learning of Obito's resolve and immediately declares him as 'evil' I forget the quote but when told about the moon eye plan's actual final goal Naruto just says something like "IM NOT GONNA BE STUCK IN SOME LAME ILLUSION!" He's thick. And if he is the one who restores peace to the ninja world, he doesn't deserve it.

If the Tsukuyomi caster Obito/Madara/someone else doesnt become corrupted with all the power he/she has at his/her disposal, if the caster eventually dies and someone can take over and if you dont mind everything being forced through a dreamworld, than it is a good way indeed. Obito's way is an option, if you still consider it peace.

Naruto is the type of guy who would still want to change Obito I think.
Didnt he want to learn of Obito's resolve? I think he asked Obito in the past, but Obito went like ''I am nobody, it doenst matter who I am'' didnt he? Or at some later point in time.
Calling Obito evil does show that Naruto still has some growing up to do in that part, that I can agree, however, even a great mind like Shukaku's father mentioned to Naruto, to not bother with trying to change Obito.

 

[Raekwon26]

so obito plan put peoples under genjutsu and remove their personality more realistic than naruto?.. all people go with naruto, not obito or madara plan

Because Naruto's plan is ignorant.

In reality, it won't work. It's a fairy tail idea. But it'll work in the Manga because it's called Naruto and he has to save the day.

Everyone love each other? Be friends? Forgive and forget with no sacrifices being made? It's a joke.

 

[skay5269]

Naruto's Plan may work but it won't last... :snick: blame human nature...

 

[vasu 32]

no.
both naruto and sasuke are naive.they r on the same page as the so6p's sons.one believes love is the only way other believes that power is the only way to achieve it.this will lead to their battle and after that battle only they both will realise that the balance b/w love and power is the only way to achieve thus ending the cycle of hatred started by the sons.

 

[Raekwon26]

Well, we cant do jutsus, fly, transform etc. in the real world either now can we? . The manga is in a way some sort of fairly tail. Might as well allow peace too I guess.

But that's the point.

You know, as well as I know that what he wants is unrealistic and straight up ignorant. It's what a 9-10 year old believes and says because their scared of the harsh realities of the world and scared to face them and see the adverseties that will be there. That's life.

We know it'll work because it's a manga, but we all know it really should stand a chance.

 

[skay5269]

no.
both naruto and sasuke are naive.they r on the same page as the so6p's sons.one believes love is the only way other believes that power is the only way to achieve it.this will lead to their battle and after that battle only they both will realise that the balance b/w love and power is the only way to achieve thus ending the cycle of hatred started by the sons.

True dat...:scorps:

 

[htmwall]

Sorry, I still see nothing wrong with Obito's way. The end result is literally the perfect answer and it's ridiculously easy to achieve if there weren't these idiots in the way.

Naruto acts like some prophet peacefighter striving for peace but he only learnt of peace in the last year. Much stronger and smarter ninja like Hanzo, Hashirama & Pain aimed for the same goal and failed. It's the fact that Naruto's goal is just unrealistic, he has no idea the peace conflict going on in this fight- he just sees a massive bad guy and is just throwing everything he has at it.

He shows no interest in learning of Obito's resolve and immediately declares him as 'evil' I forget the quote but when told about the moon eye plan's actual final goal Naruto just says something like "IM NOT GONNA BE STUCK IN SOME LAME ILLUSION!" He's thick. And if he is the one who restores peace to the ninja world, he doesn't deserve it.

once obito dies,his plan is over and leaving juubi rampaging on earth(no one is immortal,even obito grew in age and he's doomed to die one day even with hashi's DNA),dumb plan if you ask me,that will lead to the end of the world.Zzz

 

[Meowazziel]

no.
both naruto and sasuke are naive.they r on the same page as the so6p's sons.one believes love is the only way other believes that power is the only way to achieve it.this will lead to their battle and after that battle only they both will realise that the balance b/w love and power is the only way to achieve thus ending the cycle of hatred started by the sons.

In what way will they use power for the love and power plan. Could you give an example?