Naruto's profile from The Last Guidebook

[Shruikan]

True. but that doesn't mean he didn't use their powers.Sasuke used 9 tailed beast chakra in the fight, meaning he needed their power.

In all seriousness though both Naruto and Sasuke are equals.Sasuke only went that route because he wanted to get this over with quickly.That doesnt mean that was the only option he had.We didnt even see the full potential of his Rinnegan in battle.

Yet Naruto did not use the remnants of the other tailed beast power. It was basically him and Kurama vs Sasuke with the chakra of all nine tailed beasts

No.He told Kurama he was completely out of chakra so he did use their chakra along with his own chakra and Kurama's chakra

 

[JorgeTown]

In all seriousness though both Naruto and Sasuke are equals.Sasuke only went that route because he wanted to get this over with quickly.That doesnt mean that was the only option he had.We didnt even see the full potential of his Rinnegan in battle.




No.He told Kurama he was completely out of chakra so he did use their chakra along with his own chakra and Kurama's chakra

Being out of chakra does not mean he can't use their chakra. I mean he had to use their chakra to release everyone from the IT, and he was already drained of chakra :l


Same goes for Naruto. In the whole fight, it was one sided. Naruto never initiated the fight until they started using taijutsu, during RSM VS. Sharringan, we never got to see Naruto use clones, Bijuu Chakra, Rasengan variants, WE NEVER EVEN SAW NARUTO'S RSM SPEED/BLIZT capabilities (Like what he did to Kaguya). We all know Naruto is SUPER FAST in his KCM form ... and this is RSM. Smh. I guess that was to be expected since Naruto never wanted to fight Sasuke serious in the first place. He said a few times he doesn't want to fight "THAT" Sasuke aka Evil corrupted Sasuke.

Naruto never released his Ashura "arrow" sort to speak, his final move. All he has is Bijuu Rasenshuriken, and that's not an "Ashura" ability. God damn Kishi, that's so lame lol.

Lastly, this Naruto in chapter 700 has Full Kurama, so he'll be X2 what he is now + even stronger

I agree they equal each-other.

 

[Shruikan]

Being out of chakra does not mean he can't use their chakra. I mean he had to use their chakra to release everyone from the IT, and he was already drained of chakra :l

The way he was begging Kurama for chakra and how Kurama with a sense of urgency said this was the last amount of chakra he had I really doubt it.And I think considering he i an Uzumaki his chakra was refilled after Sakura healed him.It was a full 24 hours of sleep they had after all

Same goes for Naruto. In the whole fight, it was one sided. Naruto never initiated the fight until they started using taijutsu, during RSM VS. Sharringan, we never got to see Naruto use clones, Bijuu Chakra, Rasengan variants, WE NEVER EVEN SAW NARUTO'S RSM SPEED/BLIZT capabilities (Like what he did to Kaguya). We all know Naruto is SUPER FAST in his KCM form ... and this is RSM. Smh. I guess that was to be expected since Naruto never wanted to fight Sasuke serious in the first place. He said a few times he doesn't want to fight "THAT" Sasuke aka Evil corrupted Sasuke.

Sasuke hardly used any of his Rinnegan Techs and Paths which he had full access to.He hardly used it at all.Both of them were also exhausted than before

Naruto never released his Ashura "arrow" sort to speak, his final move. All he has is Bijuu Rasenshuriken, and that's not an "Ashura" ability. God damn Kishi, that's so lame lol.

I think that was still his final move as the manga mentions

Lastly, this Naruto in chapter 700 has Full Kurama, so he'll be X2 what he is now + even stronger

And Sasuke has also mastered his Rinnegan even more by now considering he soloed a meteor with Base chidori so even he will be much stronger than before

I agree they equal each-other.

Pretty much but if you do a fight removing all their god powerups including Sharingan and Kurama,Sasuke wins this IMO

 

[JorgeTown]

The way he was begging Kurama for chakra and how Kurama with a sense of urgency said this was the last amount of chakra he had I really doubt it

Kurama's chakra =/= Chakra of the other tailed beasts he can tap into

Sasuke hardly used any of his Rinnegan Techs and Paths which he had full access to.He hardly used it at all

Yeah, but Sasuke was only shown to use CT, and PP I think. Between who used what, and the other paths. Naruto barely used any of his techniques.

Kishimoto could of made Naruto create clones before/after Sasuke used Amen. so that he could have a defense for it. Nah, avatar battles FTW.

I think that was still his final move as the manga mentions

Well technically wouldn't it be that Kurama avatar Rasengans he used to clash with Indra arrow? It's lame how we never got to see an Ashura move though

And Sasuke has also mastered his Rinnegan even more by now considering he soloed a meteor with Base chidori so even he will be much stronger than before

Right? I wanna see them fight at full power now

Pretty much but if you do a fight removing all their god powerups including Sharingan and Kurama,Sasuke wins this IMO

Sadly that is not that case anymore.

Naruto still has Sage Mode, and Naruto beats Sasuke in Taijutsu, pretty horribly actually.
We saw that in their taijutsu battle in VOTE2, and Sasuke got hits in when plot rock tripped Naruto XD

Plus, that isn't much of a debate considering Naruto never uses weapons at all. Sasuke is more proficient in Kenjutsu.

Strong body though. *+*

 

[take it easy]

Pretty much but if you do a fight removing all their god powerups including Sharingan and Kurama,Sasuke wins this IMO

Invisible punch>>>>>>>>>>everything that Sasuke has.

Sasuke forcibly took the chakra not borrow it.Naruto and Kurama were helping each other in the fight and Kurama was guiding him along along with gathering Natural energy for Naruto not to mention Naruto still had the remnants of the other tailed beasts chakra inside him too.Sasuke wasnt having any living entity guiding him and yet physically the match ended in a draw.

Kurama isn't living entity and match wasn't a draw.

Physically, in the same condition Naruto should outlive Sasuke due to his Uzumaki strong lifeforce.

 

[Blejziken]

Only thing is, Sage mode is also bonus, and something Naruto achieved after he returned after his training with Jiraiya.

Sasuke didn't have any training afterwards, but he still was so fast that it seemed like he was teleporting when he met Sakura, Naruto, Yamato, and Sai at Orochimaru's hideout.

That being said, I wonder how Naruto would deal with Kirin which is arguably the fastest attack in series.

 

[JorgeTown]

Only thing is, Sage mode is also bonus, and something Naruto achieved after he returned after his training with Jiraiya.

Sasuke didn't have any training afterwards, but he still was so fast that it seemed like he was teleporting when he met Sakura, Naruto, Yamato, and Sai at Orochimaru's hideout.

That being said, I wonder how Naruto would deal with Kirin which is arguably the fastest attack in series.

I. Right. Naruto only learned the basics from Jiraiya because his Ninja teachings were horrible. Sasuke, was taught by his family at a young age. Naruto was left alone and pulled pranks the majority of his life, until he became a Gennin. He really was a dropout until Jiraiya picked him up and showed him the ropes. He had to master on what HE knew, rather than learn more techniques

II. Yeah Sasuke was using Shusin (teleport) jutsu to move. He was super fast

II. Not good at all. If Sasuke has it setup than he needs to protect himself with a Kurama avatar, if not, he can sense it beforehand and: Stop it or run the **** out LOL.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

The word "Borrowed" confirms that the last Naruto Sasuke fight was actually a 2 vs 1 as I thought

Well darn, so chakra that didn't originally come from the user counts as 2v1?

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So Sasuke virtually has no solo feats. Thank you. He used another shinobi's chakra for 90% of the series.

 

[Blejziken]

Cursed seal isn't something anyone can handle, and you can't really compare Itachi's (who is just a human) eyes, with Kyubi whose one half is arguably more powerful than most of the other Biju put together.

And featwise, EMS seemed to only keep Sasuke from losing his eyesight; there wasn't really any significant increase in power just because those are someone else's eyes.

Once again: Itachi - human, Kyubi - giant chakra fox that can easily destroy mountains.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Cursed seal isn't something anyone can handle, and you can't really compare Itachi's (who is just a human) eyes, with Kyubi whose one half is arguably more powerful than most of the other Biju put together.

And featwise, EMS seemed to only keep Sasuke from losing his eyesight; there wasn't really any significant increase in power just because those are someone else's eyes.

Once again: Itachi - human, Kyubi - giant chakra fox that can easily destroy mountains.

Kurama isn't something anyone can handle either, as stated in the series, and Naruto's control over Kurama's chakra is extraordinary as noted by Sasuke himself, so that's no excuse.

EMS is a gift, and it evolves into the straight-comma sharingan, a more powerful version of the sharingan.

Really? Um, no, also not an excuse. Fact remains, its the same thing regardless of power behind either. Both have to have help to reach either level, and in case you haven't forgotten, both of them constantly have god-tier ninjas permanently bonded to them to evolve their strengths. Sasuke's "Natural potential" could easily just be a side effect of being Indra's transmigrant.


The epidome of their known natural potential is a fully-mastered SM for Naruto, and MS for Sasuke, making them relatively equal in capability without external factors. Difference being, Naruto's power lasts, while Sasuke's would go away and virtually cripple him as a ninja.

 

[Blejziken]

Naruto isn't Sakura, he doesn't really CONTROL chakra, he just uses it - the control Sasuke meant was control as in Naruto having Kyubi's enormous chakra at his disposal.
Remember, this is idiot Naruto we're talking about, not someone with brain.

Indra was introduced years after Sasuke was, and it was never said that Sasuke's talent was due to Indra either.
Not to mention, even if he is talented, he still type who would rather train, than play around.

As for Naruto lasting longer, well, it's just a drawback of using Mangekyo Sharingan, and Sage mode not really having any effects if user learns to use it.

But then again, with Kirin, who knows if Sasuke would even need to use MS powers, since he was shown to be quite skillful with normal Sharingan too.

Still, Naruto is main character even more than Sasuke, so, no matter what happens, he most likely wouldn't lose by default the second time.
Just how in their last fight Sasuke didn't Amenotejikara some random spike, or something through his brain, or used Izanagi...