Naruto's profile from The Last Guidebook

[JorgeTown]

That makes no sense.. If Naruto learn how to fly without using RSM it means one thing and one thing only... Naruto learn another way to fly... It's just like Madara using Susanoo without eyes. " Susanoo is the power of a double MS" and blah blah blah, Madara used it without any eyes... Meaning... He found another way to use it, just like Naruto.. The movie didn't indicate in any single way Naruto have RSM.

Non canonical information? Lol. So Sakura can't be resistant to Genjutsu in two years but during the entire 'Naruto' story we was told that she's a Genjutsu type, but base Naruto grew strong enough to throw FRS around like distructo disks? Lol Sounds like a double standard to me.
This is just a assumption, nothing to back it up...how do you know when Sasuke lost Rikudou's Senjutsu chakra? It could have stayed with him until the sage chakra ran out.

I didn't say he said Sasuke Sasuke lost his Rinnengan. He made the statement as if I was saying Sasuke lost the rinnengan. When did I say Sasuke awaken the rinnengan?? Maybe you need to read my statements more carefully before jumping to conclusions.. I said "Sasuke Rinnengan was awaken"(by Hagoromo).

I really must call you stupid for assuming so much. My point is there's always more than one way to do things.. Naruto is the prime example of that when he was learning how to do resengan.
Naruto can't perform a feat like that without his seal and we all know that left while he was still able to use RSM.. Meaning that kind of power is something he gained over the last two years, because it's certainly not a specification of RSM.
You should stop trying to tell me what to do if you don't know what the hell you are talking about. First, Hashirama was the one who told Sasuke not to touch the chakra rods not TSB. Second, Tobirama touch a TSB and he was not in RSM. Third, Sasuke destroy some TSB and he doesn't have RSM.

Again, all assumption. The 'gift' Sasuke received was Hagoromo awakening his rinnengan, not giving him Permeant chakra..

I'm saying Rikodou's Chakra ran out sometime during there battle at VOTE2. But Sasuke keeps his rinnengan because Hagoromo awaken it for Sasuke along with giving him sage chakra..

Lol thanks for proving my point.. Kurama was flying after RSM ran out... Meaning you don't need RSM TO FLY.

Keys word KCM not RSM.

Okay so I realized from reading your posts clearly, that you are a troll. I'll reply to your posts without the hassle. I see now that you don't take discussions seriously anymore

1. Naruto has never showcased the ability to fly without Rikudou Chakra. Show me a scan of Naruto flying in Base form/KCM and higher. If you can't, move on.

2. Sakura was resistant to genjutsu, the Byakugan now had meter restrictions, and Kurama extracted himself. The list of plot holes go on. Watch the movie for yourself ~

3. Yes Naruto threw FRS three times in base form
Next, Sasuke turned off his Rinnegan, and turned it back on in the movie. We all know the chakra from the brain activates the Sharingan. How do you think the Rinnengan activates? Hur dur her ~

4. Please show me a manga scan of Naruto/Sasuke losing their RSM/Sharringan abilities. If you cannot, it means they never lost it.
Why do you think Naruto lost RSM? Because he never used it? I'm assuming Sasuke lost Perfect Susano'o too. Well he didn't use it in the movie, because you know ... if they don't use their abilities in the movie, it doesn't exist. Even though Sasuke was going to face a giant meteor, he used a chidori. Seems like he lost it to me.

That is your logic^
Sasuke used a chidori to destroy a meteor, just as Naruto used KCM to fight a weak Rinnegan-Madara fodder villian.

5. Okay so your clearly stupid. Naruto has shown multiple times of being able to do the Rasengan with one hand, the reason for his horrible chakra control is: The Kyuubi. Yet in Sage Mode, Kyuubi chakra mode, or any version that involves Kurama, he performs it quite easily.

Sasuke destroyed TSB, yet he had Six Path Senjutsu. Check

6. Nope. The databook states both RSM and Sharringan were gifts. Now your basing assumptions off of no considered logic. Flawed here sir.


See here is the problem with your statement: Hagoromo's chakra did RUN out. He gave Naruto/Sasuke his chakra to seal Kaguya.
This is explained here:
Go to the databooks and look up "COAT" and "Six Path Senjutsu"
Owners: Hagoromo

They came in the Yang/Yin Seals

Hence why RSM/Sharringan are labeled as "gifts". I don't really have to explain such simple logic.

Once they sealed Kaguya, the seals ran out, and Hagoromo's chakra disappeared. Hence why Naruto could not use COAT to revive his/Sasuke's arm, and hence why Sasuke could no longer use SixPathSenjutsu. :l

Yet 10 minutes later they were using RSM/Sharringan. Okay >->
To release the IT ... what did Naruto/Sasuke need? The Rinnegan and Tailed Beasts chakra.
Where did it state that the abilities disappeared? Nowhere.
Who is the idiot? DHOH
Who is making assumptions? DHOH
Whose logic is flawed from the core up? DHOH


Sigh, and to end your silly arguments once and for all.
Naruto has never shown the ability to fly in Base/KCM in the MANGA. He never has, and never will.

Naruto flied in the movie with KCM/SM ... but do you know why? He had Rikudou Chakra.
The same Rikudou chakra that healed Hinata, that allowed Kurama to fly (I'm guessing Kurama learned how to fly on his own too Lol, and the one that allowed him to obliterate TSB)

Not to mention Naruto made some chakra shield which ripped through Toneri's attack before the final blow.


Naruto learned how to incorporate his power into his other forms, and thanks for agreeing with me. Saying Naruto can fly, means your already one step there, and that you understand he has Rikudou chakra. Seems like this discussion is over.

Next time you quote me, I will bring others, because I cannot handle this level of stupidity and ignorance.

 

[chaos control]

See? Now can Naruto fans agree he was actually borrowing chakra?

Also, I guess he wasn't using RSM.

Who ever said that he wasn't borrowing chakara from Kurama? What we mainly argue is that Kurama is still apart of him and therefore a legit part of Naruto's power in vs matches, (whereas people try to hold it against Naruto for simply using his power as a jinchuuriki).

No he didn't use RSM in the Last.

 

[take it easy]

Third, Sasuke destroy some TSB and he doesn't have RSM.

He didn't, if you mean his Susanoo arrow.

Nothing happened to them. Here is when he attacked them

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and here they're behind Naruto's back

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if that isn't clear enough for you, then here they're in the next chapter

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[Cassus]

So how about that part about the bandages on his arm just being a symbol? I guess it doesn't matter that he's shown in some shots with the bandage off, it's not a gross mutant looking arm.

 

[Gold Lightning]

why does it say his 4 symbols seal becomes visible? So he still has that seal?

 

[LeSauce]

Who ever said that he wasn't borrowing chakara from Kurama? What we mainly argue is that Kurama is still apart of him and therefore a legit part of Naruto's power in vs matches, (whereas people try to hold it against Naruto for simply using his power as a jinchuuriki).

No he didn't use RSM in the Last.

You can't borrow something from yourself.

 

[chaos control]

You can't borrow something from yourself.

You can if the thing you are borrowing from is apart of you. It is kind of like this: If I have a simees twin (don't know how to spell it), then it is true that we are different people, but my twin's physical attributes go to me as well and vice versa because he is apart of me.

 

[DHOH]

Okay so I realized from reading your posts clearly, that you are a troll. I'll reply to your posts without the hassle. I see now that you don't take discussions seriously anymore

1. Naruto has never showcased the ability to fly without Rikudou Chakra. Show me a scan of Naruto flying in Base form/KCM and higher. If you can't, move on.

2. Sakura was resistant to genjutsu, the Byakugan now had meter restrictions, and Kurama extracted himself. The list of plot holes go on. Watch the movie for yourself ~

3. Yes Naruto threw FRS three times in base form
Next, Sasuke turned off his Rinnegan, and turned it back on in the movie. We all know the chakra from the brain activates the Sharingan. How do you think the Rinnengan activates? Hur dur her ~

4. Please show me a manga scan of Naruto/Sasuke losing their RSM/Sharringan abilities. If you cannot, it means they never lost it.
Why do you think Naruto lost RSM? Because he never used it? I'm assuming Sasuke lost Perfect Susano'o too. Well he didn't use it in the movie, because you know ... if they don't use their abilities in the movie, it doesn't exist. Even though Sasuke was going to face a giant meteor, he used a chidori. Seems like he lost it to me.

That is your logic^
Sasuke used a chidori to destroy a meteor, just as Naruto used KCM to fight a weak Rinnegan-Madara fodder villian.

5. Okay so your clearly stupid. Naruto has shown multiple times of being able to do the Rasengan with one hand, the reason for his horrible chakra control is: The Kyuubi. Yet in Sage Mode, Kyuubi chakra mode, or any version that involves Kurama, he performs it quite easily.

Sasuke destroyed TSB, yet he had Six Path Senjutsu. Check

6. Nope. The databook states both RSM and Sharringan were gifts. Now your basing assumptions off of no considered logic. Flawed here sir.


See here is the problem with your statement: Hagoromo's chakra did RUN out. He gave Naruto/Sasuke his chakra to seal Kaguya.
This is explained here:
Go to the databooks and look up "COAT" and "Six Path Senjutsu"
Owners: Hagoromo

They came in the Yang/Yin Seals

Hence why RSM/Sharringan are labeled as "gifts". I don't really have to explain such simple logic.

Once they sealed Kaguya, the seals ran out, and Hagoromo's chakra disappeared. Hence why Naruto could not use COAT to revive his/Sasuke's arm, and hence why Sasuke could no longer use SixPathSenjutsu. :l

Yet 10 minutes later they were using RSM/Sharringan. Okay >->
To release the IT ... what did Naruto/Sasuke need? The Rinnegan and Tailed Beasts chakra.
Where did it state that the abilities disappeared? Nowhere.
Who is the idiot? DHOH
Who is making assumptions? DHOH
Whose logic is flawed from the core up? DHOH


Sigh, and to end your silly arguments once and for all.
Naruto has never shown the ability to fly in Base/KCM in the MANGA. He never has, and never will.

Naruto flied in the movie with KCM/SM ... but do you know why? He had Rikudou Chakra.
The same Rikudou chakra that healed Hinata, that allowed Kurama to fly (I'm guessing Kurama learned how to fly on his own too Lol, and the one that allowed him to obliterate TSB)

Not to mention Naruto made some chakra shield which ripped through Toneri's attack before the final blow.


Naruto learned how to incorporate his power into his other forms, and thanks for agreeing with me. Saying Naruto can fly, means your already one step there, and that you understand he has Rikudou chakra. Seems like this discussion is over.

Next time you quote me, I will bring others, because I cannot handle this level of stupidity and ignorance.

I quit reading after the first sentence.. I'm not going to have a conversation with someone that uses insults to advance the conversation so good day.

 

[DHOH]

He didn't, if you mean his Susanoo arrow.

Nothing happened to them. Here is when he attacked them

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and here they're behind Naruto's back

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if that isn't clear enough for you, then here they're in the next chapter

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You are correct..

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Yeah um, I'm not taking the guidebook seriously. The fact it's labeled as KCM and Not Kurama mode debunks the legitimacy of this guidebook. KCM can't take out Kurama. Nor can he do the stuff he did in the film (flying). And no, it's not the weighted bolder technique. If that were the case, he'd fly in base, which he clearly can't as apparent by the scene where Toneri takes away Hinata, since he had to jump off shadow clones. Clearly, it's some Rikkudo power influence. The guidebook doesn't specify what degree of sage mode. Whatever senjutsu he's fusing with Kurama mode, it's not the average one, as he can't have been flying or instantly getting into this mode without meditating in any way. This is most likely the in between of Kurama mode and RSM. No reason to believe he lost RSM either. He obviously had biju chakra left after the VOTE 2 fight, and they don't go away from being exhausted. The fact that he can reach into Hinata and yank a chakra sphere out heavily implies Rikkudo influence, so in both cases, anything that'd make him loose it, didn't happen. I imagine he didn't use RSM in the movie since, previously, Toneri took out all of his chakra. It's quite possible that he didn't recover enough chakra to activate the mode. After all, I doubt Sakura could exactly replenish the equivalent of a juubi jin.


As for the Sasuke fans hating on Naruto for borrowed power (because they seem to be the ones doing it most), might I remind you that Sasuke is hardly better? What exactly has Sasuke gotten his famed abilities from? Let's see, in part 1 through part 2, he relied heavily on the curse mark, a sealing jutsu that contains the chakra of another ninja. In other words, he had borrowed powers for most of the series by default. Itachi then used a plan to give Sasuke his MS, and then his EMS (granted by Indra). Whoops. Gifted power right there. Oh, and then he got his rinnegan through Hagoromo, who gave him his power. Yet again, gifted power. Then, he stole the chakra of the bijus, relying on them for the ability to fight Naruto.


Like Naruto, all of Sasuke's potential was given to him. Unlike Sasuke however, Naruto almost always has to earn it by convincing others to help him through hard work, and usually training afterwards to use the power correctly. Sasuke, in comparison, just needs to get sad in order to get a powerup. No training required. What actually sounds more noble?

 

[Kamui Sama]

Hokage Kakashi only gets one page while Sakura and Hinata get two.. smh...

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Hokage Kakashi only gets one page while Sakura and Hinata get two.. smh...

Given that both are significantly more prominent than him in the movie, it's only natural.

 

[LeSauce]

Yeah um, I'm not taking the guidebook seriously. The fact it's labeled as KCM and Not Kurama mode debunks the legitimacy of this guidebook. KCM can't take out Kurama. Nor can he do the stuff he did in the film (flying). And no, it's not the weighted bolder technique. If that were the case, he'd fly in base, which he clearly can't as apparent by the scene where Toneri takes away Hinata, since he had to jump off shadow clones. Clearly, it's some Rikkudo power influence. The guidebook doesn't specify what degree of sage mode. Whatever senjutsu he's fusing with Kurama mode, it's not the average one, as he can't have been flying or instantly getting into this mode without meditating in any way. This is most likely the in between of Kurama mode and RSM. No reason to believe he lost RSM either. He obviously had biju chakra left after the VOTE 2 fight, and they don't go away from being exhausted. The fact that he can reach into Hinata and yank a chakra sphere out heavily implies Rikkudo influence, so in both cases, anything that'd make him loose it, didn't happen. I imagine he didn't use RSM in the movie since, previously, Toneri took out all of his chakra. It's quite possible that he didn't recover enough chakra to activate the mode. After all, I doubt Sakura could exactly replenish the equivalent of a juubi jin.


As for the Sasuke fans hating on Naruto for borrowed power (because they seem to be the ones doing it most), might I remind you that Sasuke is hardly better? What exactly has Sasuke gotten his famed abilities from? Let's see, in part 1 through part 2, he relied heavily on the curse mark, a sealing jutsu that contains the chakra of another ninja. In other words, he had borrowed powers for most of the series by default. Itachi then used a plan to give Sasuke his MS, and then his EMS (granted by Indra). Whoops. Gifted power right there. Oh, and then he got his rinnegan through Hagoromo, who gave him his power. Yet again, gifted power. Then, he stole the chakra of the bijus, relying on them for the ability to fight Naruto.


Like Naruto, all of Sasuke's potential was given to him. Unlike Sasuke however, Naruto almost always has to earn it by convincing others to help him through hard work, and usually training afterwards to use the power correctly. Sasuke, in comparison, just needs to get sad in order to get a powerup. No training required. What actually sounds more noble?

You know the difference between KCM and BSM, so why can't you tell the difference between Sasuke and Naruto w/Kurama?

Also, I bet the developers are just using KCM because it's got the same abilities as it.

I'm also starting to doubt that Naruto was flying. Hinata and him were floating/falling very slowly and when he was fighting Toneri he would frequently touch the ground,

You can if the thing you are borrowing from is apart of you. It is kind of like this: If I have a simees twin (don't know how to spell it), then it is true that we are different people, but my twin's physical attributes go to me as well and vice versa because he is apart of me.

Kurama and Naruto aren't twins though. They're not even the same species. Kurama's height isn't transferable to Naruto, nor is his brain size.

A part, or apart? If you mean the former, then no because it would be you if it was. I can't borrow something from my arm can I? If you mean the latter, then yes because that thing is separate from you.

 

[JorgeTown]

I'm also starting to doubt that Naruto was flying. Hinata and him were floating/falling very slowly and when he was fighting Toneri he would frequently touch the ground,

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I agree, when I saw the Last it looked as if Naruto was touching the ground, but then I saw when he was actually flying.

If you watch the video on youtube (slow it down), to the part where Naruto/Toneri fly upwards and float, and then Naruto creates that Rasengan with mini-rasengans in it, and then they have their clash in the air.

Right before Naruto goes towards Toneri, if you slow down the video, he pushes off NOTHING. There is a small meteorite near Naruto, and I thought he "pushed" off if it, but nope. If he did, the meteor would of went outwards, but instead the meteor kept rising above. Meaning Naruto pushed off of air, and equaling that he was indeed flying. Not to mention if he actually pushed off of it his feet would be touching it. In slow motion, you can clearly see that Naruto's feet were above and in-front of the small meteor

I think the rest of the battle justifies that though.

Next, once Toneri/Naruto reached the top and started floating back and forth. They were levitating ... and if Naruto couldn't fly, he would going downwards. Even if he stood in the air for 1 second, his body would be pulled by gravity. Instead he was straight up DBZ'ing


Lastly, Kurama's ***** ass was flying/floating TOO LOL. He did it in VOTE2 as-well with Bijuu Susano'o

I quit reading after the first sentence.. I'm not going to have a conversation with someone that uses insults to advance the conversation so good day.

Well I just wanted to point out that you were wrong. It's okay though, and I'm sorry if I insulted you.

Thank you

 

[LeSauce]

I agree, when I saw the Last it looked as if Naruto was touching the ground, but then I saw when he was actually flying.

If you watch the video on youtube (slow it down), to the part where Naruto/Toneri fly upwards and float, and then Naruto creates that Rasengan with mini-rasengans in it, and then they have their clash in the air.

Right before Naruto goes towards Toneri, if you slow down the video, he pushes off NOTHING. There is a small meteorite near Naruto, and I thought he "pushed" off if it, but nope. If he did, the meteor would of went outwards, but instead the meteor kept rising above. Meaning Naruto pushed off of air, and equaling that he was indeed flying. Not to mention if he actually pushed off of it his feet would be touching it. In slow motion, you can clearly see that Naruto's feet were above and in-front of the small meteor

I think the rest of the battle justifies that though.

Next, once Toneri/Naruto reached the top and started floating back and forth. They were levitating ... and if Naruto couldn't fly, he would going downwards. Even if he stood in the air for 1 second, his body would be pulled by gravity. Instead he was straight up DBZ'ing


Lastly, Kurama's ***** ass was flying/floating TOO LOL. He did it in VOTE2 as-well with Bijuu Susano'o



Well I just wanted to point out that you were wrong. It's okay though, and I'm sorry if I insulted you.

Thank you

Link?

 

[Xāvî1]

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Shruikan]

The word "Borrowed" confirms that the last Naruto Sasuke fight was actually a 2 vs 1 as I thought

 

[JorgeTown]

The word "Borrowed" confirms that the last Naruto Sasuke fight was actually a 2 vs 1 as I thought

I wonder what the databooks says about Sasuke borrowing 9 tailed beast chakra

btw. Borrow definition: take and use (something that belongs to someone else) with the intention of returning it

Neither Naruto/Sasuke can return Bijuu chakra, the word was not used right here. Who makes the DB?

 

[Shruikan]

I wonder what the databooks says about Sasuke borrowing 9 tailed beast chakra

btw. Borrow definition: take and use (something that belongs to someone else) with the intention of returning it

Neither Naruto/Sasuke can return Bijuu chakra, the word was not used right here. Who makes the DB?

Sasuke forcibly took the chakra not borrow it.Naruto and Kurama were helping each other in the fight and Kurama was guiding him along along with gathering Natural energy for Naruto not to mention Naruto still had the remnants of the other tailed beasts chakra inside him too.Sasuke wasnt having any living entity guiding him and yet physically the match ended in a draw.

Naruto borrows Kurama's chakra but I guess its replenished once his own chakra is back up.For instance in the Naji fight Naruto was out of chakra and he had to borrow Kurama's

 

[JorgeTown]

Sasuke forcibly took the chakra not borrow it.Naruto and Kurama were helping each other in the fight and Kurama was guiding him along along with gathering Natural energy for Naruto not to mention Naruto still had the remnants of the other tailed beasts chakra inside him too.Sasuke wasnt having any living entity guiding him and yet physically the match ended in a draw.

Naruto borrows Kurama's chakra but I guess its replenished once his own chakra is back up.For instance in the Naji fight Naruto was out of chakra and he had to borrow Kurama's

True. but that doesn't mean he didn't use their powers.
Sasuke used 9 tailed beast chakra in the fight, meaning he needed their power.

Yet Naruto did not use the remnants of the other tailed beast power. It was basically him and Kurama vs Sasuke with the chakra of all nine tailed beasts

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I agree with you, what Sasuke did was the equivalent of Naruto absorbing natural energy. Taking an outside source and drawing it into yourself is wayyy different from having a living chakra monster that can gather Humongous amounts of natural energy for you and give you pointers.

Very true, but the word in discussed topics is not borrowing, because Naruto can never return the chakra back to Kurama. It is shared equally, or at least that's how it is portrayed in the manga.

Though I won't take the DB seriously, as Kishimoto himself does not write it word for word. I mean this is the same book that states "Temari can blow away the universe"

METAPHORS FTW