Narutos possible second element/kekki genkai,Haku Uzumaki and Whirlpool conutry...

DarkMarke

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oh yeah i read it, but why does he personally suck againt lighting if he is water element?
Screw it, arguing with you is pointless.

so according to you:

Fire>Wind>Lightning>Earth>Water>Fire
Fire>Wind>Lightning>Water>Fire

Man, Suiton Sucks..................According to Realtwisted.
 

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Screw it, arguing with you is pointless.

so according to you:

Fire>Wind>Lightning>Earth>Water>Fire
Fire>Wind>Lightning>Water>Fire

Man, Suiton Sucks..................According to Realtwisted.
i ask you a question, that has nothing to do with the element, lol
Why does he personally suck again't lightning?
 

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well i think itz silly to just write off this guyz theory becoz it makez alot of sense and well i also think naruto is a collaboration with a sharingam based activity because itachi gave naruto some of his power and in or to fight a high ranking sharingan u need to have a sharingan or the same and i presume sasukes sharingan has surpassed the mangekyo sharingan so how wud naruto stand a chance! he has to have some kind of defence or something. so if it means naruto gets sharingan or another element we cant just rule it out......... boy i writ alol ^-^
 

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First off, it is debateable whether sand is kekkai genkai or not due to it seemingly being made off only by previous host of Shukaku. If anyone brings up metal sand, that was magnetized sterf that was meant to imitate it. Lava element is not kekkai genkai. The 4th jin came up with it via use of his bijuu to bypass the kekkai genkai crap.

Also, platinum ( on the chance you read this thread ). This is in future reference for you. Please do not confuse Kekkai genkai with elemental affinities. Affinities allow for easier jutsu learning and control not much more than that without going into bloodline territory.

Now onto the first post.


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1. I believe Naruto has a secret kekkei genkai ability that is unknown to most everyone in the series. The following theory will attempt to prove this possiblity.

2. The first piece of evidence that supports my theory is a statement by Yamato. In chapter 299, entitled "The Source of Strength", Yamato makes the following observations about the Kyuubi's chakra:



"The Kyuubi's chakra is acting like poison...entering through her wound. Something like that can't simply be healed by Sakura's level of healing jutsu. Which makes me even more surprised that Naruto is able to endure it."

Just a few pages later Yamato makes the following statement while speaking to Naruto:



"Your true strength isn't from Kyuubi's power, and the reason you're able to stand Kyuubi's chakra is because of the strength of your own chakra."


3. While unconfirmed, it is believed that Mangekyou Sharingan controls the Kyuubi through the use of genjutsu. It is quite obvious that Naruto has neither Mangekyou Sharingan or genjutsu strong enough to control the Kyuubi. The only other known kekkei genkai that possesses the ability to control Kyuubi chakra is the unnamed kekkei genkai ability of Hashirama Senju, the first hokage.

4. It is my belief that the hidden kekkei genkai that Naruto possesses is the same one Hashirama Senju had. I also believe that Haku of the land of water also had this ability. .


5. Naruto has just defaced the Hokage monument, he even signs his work. The funny thing about this is where Naruto signs his name. Naruto's name appears on Hashirama, the Shodaime Hokage & Minato Namikaze, the Yondaime Hokage.

6. Then there is that defining moment at the Valley of the End, were Naruto stood on Hashirama's head & Sasuke on Madara's , here.

7. There is also the fact that Naruto is in possession of Hashirama's chakra crystal necklace. The very necklace that Hashirama used to control bijuu, why give Naruto this necklace if he will never make use of it?


8. In conclusion, it is my belief that Naruto possesses the same kekkei genkai as Hashirama Senju & Haku of the Water Country.

9. Since Naruto possesses Shodaime's chakra crystal necklace, he will receive the same benefit that Shodaime did. Naruto will be able to bend Bijuu's & their chakra to his will.
Commenting on certain parts, cause the other parts are either seemingly too much bs, already commented on, or both.

1. Naruto + kekkai genkai = total killing of his character what he had to go through. Sorry, no kekkai genkai.

2. Naruto and kyuubi have been sharing the same body for almost all of naruto's life. Naruto's body had 'plenty of time' to adapt to kyuubi chakra due to the design of the seal. Though it can be misunderstood from Yamato said.

3. It is named. It's mokuton.

4. Hey, everyone. Did you know that naruto and haku can command all the bijuu around like pets? I bet that woulda been useful back at the 1 tail battle. Haku can do it too right? Start up those edo tensai s. Oh wait, he never got summoned...

5. At the time, those were the only faces on the mountain and he was gunning for attention via pranks. This made for one heck of a prank. Nothing much more.

6. This was already compared with Madara versus the first. Difference here is that Naruto has kyuubi now.

7. He won the crystal in a bet versus Tsunade. That's all. The necklace helped Shodaime in his controlling ability. It wasn't a 'anyone can use this item' or 'artifact' or anything like that. It amplified his ability that he already possessed. By the way, you do remember that the necklace was broken and can no longer be used until fixed ( if it will be ). Right?

8. Oh boy. Now all we need is for him to have the same kekkai genkai as a bunch of other clans through some have baked thought up process so that he can come up with his own kekkai genkai: Captain Planet-ton jutsu.

9. Naruto is no longer in possession of the necklace cause the necklace is ****ed up. Courtesy of Kyuubi Corp. A demolition industry.
 
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I think he won't have a second element because he simpyl won't need it.

Element techniques can be strong, but only to some extend. I mean an A-s class fire technique can be countered by a water technique of B/a level without a problem and what matters is the special techniques.

By special techniques I mean something Like "amaterasu" shinra tensei, sage tech's etc..

he just need to master his sage mode.
 

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Yeah that's why I'm saying that he needs to master his Sage techniques instead of focusing on elements. sage techs is something unique to only Naruto. And much stronger.
 

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Yeah that's why I'm saying that he needs to master his Sage techniques instead of focusing on elements. sage techs is something unique to only Naruto. And much stronger.
Yeah I See Where Your Coming From But I Think He Needs Something Else Beside Sage Mode He Has Too Many Gaps In Techinques Like For Him To To Stay In Sage Mode With Out Fusion For More Then Fight 5 Mins He Needs A Shadow Clone And He Can Only Make A Certain Amount Of Shadow Clones At The Time
 

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yeh but itz all gud him mastering sage mode and all but how is he suppozed to stand up to ameratsu and mangekyo etc he needz an edge wether it be element, genkai ( and know one feelz this) itachiz sharingan transferz wid doez birdz and stuff
 

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ill think it cut be right and reladed to the 1th and the 2th make cens


i also think there are ppl there only come and have to make the creader bad alle threads there are ppls there are saying what the 4uck are you thinging and he dont need dit and dat
 

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I agree with the OP when he said it will probably water.


We are saying:

IF he does have a second element... it is MOST LIKELY going to be water because of the following reasons (refer to OP)...blah blah blah.




So don't you get upset about that okay ?
 

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he is nah able to stand again the 9 tail fox because of his chakra, is because his father seal
Read properly my thread or manga(Return of Sasuke arc). Yamato clearly mentions It is narutos special chakra that keeps naruto safe from Kyuubis corrosive chakra. Kyuubis chakra destroys/damages every thing around them. But surprisingly Naruto even after going 4-6-8 tailed kyuubi remains safe...

Shingami seal as explained by Jiraiya merely locks Kyuubi in Naruto's body and allows naruto to use kyuubis chakra. And as it was said by Minato, that he sealed kyuubi in narutos body, because he felt he can control it. If seal was deciding factor then anyone else was viable option. But he selected naruto, because he felt he can control it. That means he knew host should have something to control this beast. So Narutos chakra plays critical role...
If Naruto second element becomes water, them sasuke vs naruto will nah be balance, so Sasuke might get another element or something esle, but it maybe be balance
thunder>water
fire>Wind

Win>thunder
water>fire
lol...
Fire>Wind>Thunder>Earth>Water>Fire.
To consider Narutos and Sasukes elements..
Fire>Wind
Lightning neutral against water...
Water>Fire
So properly balanced, isnt it...
yea i agree....n i dont think kishi would give him the wood element...i mean that was the 1st's signature jutsu, it would be lame to give it to naruto...
You forgot Yamato who uses Wood...Kishi now a days getting too lame. Distributing Sharingan to evreyone...
naruto and the first aren't even related.
How can you say? Manga is not commenting, but hints are given like At VoE Naruto standing on top of 1st statue. Naruto using Tsunades necklace etc. tell us they may be related. Related here means from same clan, not grandfather and grandson sort of...

in relation to the Uzumaki clan being related to the 1st and 2nd hokage...

Maybe thats why the Leaf symbol has a swirly curl (spiral) as part of it

You must be registered for see images


:D:D:D:D
Nice one...This is intersting, that actually proves my point of Senjus being descendants of Uzumakis. They created a logo that luks like whirpool...

Now onto the first post.

Commenting on certain parts, cause the other parts are either seemingly too much bs, already commented on, or both.

1. Naruto + kekkai genkai = total killing of his character what he had to go through. Sorry, no kekkai genkai.

2. Naruto and kyuubi have been sharing the same body for almost all of naruto's life. Naruto's body had 'plenty of time' to adapt to kyuubi chakra due to the design of the seal. Though it can be misunderstood from Yamato said.

3. It is named. It's mokuton.

4. Hey, everyone. Did you know that naruto and haku can command all the bijuu around like pets? I bet that woulda been useful back at the 1 tail battle. Haku can do it too right? Start up those edo tensai s. Oh wait, he never got summoned...

5. At the time, those were the only faces on the mountain and he was gunning for attention via pranks. This made for one heck of a prank. Nothing much more.

6. This was already compared with Madara versus the first. Difference here is that Naruto has kyuubi now.

7. He won the crystal in a bet versus Tsunade. That's all. The necklace helped Shodaime in his controlling ability. It wasn't a 'anyone can use this item' or 'artifact' or anything like that. It amplified his ability that he already possessed. By the way, you do remember that the necklace was broken and can no longer be used until fixed ( if it will be ). Right?

8. Oh boy. Now all we need is for him to have the same kekkai genkai as a bunch of other clans through some have baked thought up process so that he can come up with his own kekkai genkai: Captain Planet-ton jutsu.

9. Naruto is no longer in possession of the necklace cause the necklace is ****ed up. Courtesy of Kyuubi Corp. A demolition industry.
1-Possible...

2-Absolutely correct. Latest manga 458 says it is hard to adopt to bijjuu, and kyuubi happens to be strongest one...And when naruto became smart enough to understand complicated things like seal...

3-1st ability was named as mokuton which is Japanese word for wood. His kekkei genkai of controling bijjuus was not wood but something else which unnamed. He just used wood as tool...

4-Nice joke...It is said by madara that 1st was not able to control all bijjuus. He said he can control several bijjus. Several means more than one but not all 9. Haku at the time didnt even no what he is facing...I am not saying naruto will be able to control all bijjuus. That will be lame. But he can control at least Kyuubi...

5-accepted. but you can not deny that manga has given several hints regarding some relation between naruto and 1st...Like being able to handle Necklace that killed others...

6-Right. but that time Shodai had other bijjuus(possibly remaining 7-8) and madara had kyuubi. Now situation is slightly reversed. Naruto has kyuubi and counter party will have other 8 bijjuus...

7-There basically was no need for tsunade to offer necklace which kill all others wearing it. Yes necklace is broken and can not be fixed...So wats your point...

8-This thread is not claiming naruto must had KG. But says If he has any, it will arise from Water as second element...

9-Dats right..As I said situation will be reversed Naruto having kyuubi and opposition having other 8...

I think he won't have a second element because he simpyl won't need it.

Element techniques can be strong, but only to some extend. I mean an A-s class fire technique can be countered by a water technique of B/a level without a problem and what matters is the special techniques.

By special techniques I mean something Like "amaterasu" shinra tensei, sage tech's etc..

he just need to master his sage mode.
I will just say naruto is not gud enough to fight anyone....

ill think it cut be right and reladed to the 1th and the 2th make cens .
i also think there are ppl there only come and have to make the creader bad alle threads there are ppls there are saying what the 4uck are you thinging and he dont need dit and dat
What do you mean...

I agree with the OP when he said it will probably water.


We are saying:

IF he does have a second element... it is MOST LIKELY going to be water because of the following reasons (refer to OP)...blah blah blah.




So don't you get upset about that okay ?
I mentioned comments are welcome, then why should I get upset. Having a kekki genkai may kill narutos character. But please read this post of mine, I think you will understand why naruto need something else under his sleeves...
 

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but i do not think kishi wants naruto vs. sasuke to be a balanced fight.


I feel that naruto is sasuke's counter.


Naruto's wind > Sasuke's lightning
Naruto having water > Sasuke's fire


and therefore in the end no matter how it goes, naruto gets the upper hand and wins.

i believe that's what it will come down to in the end.
 
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