Naruto's greatest strengths are Sasuke's greatest weakness,

[Zealous Sparks]

Yin and Yang complement one another. Both Naruto and Sasuke have unique traits that the other lacks. It's basically described by Naruto and Sasuke being somewhat envious of the other [

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[Cooh]

If his body cannot keep up, then there is no way Sasuke with EMS can keep up with Naruto sage mode. Sage Mode Naruto's body is as fast as his senses, as it was shown with 3rd raikage. Even when he fought Nagato (who had rinnegan) it was no problem for Naruto to take down one of pain's bodies using frog kumite. I guess you meant 4th raikage, not sure about if he was able to keep up, it seemed more like he was lucky to have susano, otherwise he would be long dead after one hit from raikage. KCM naruto was able to dodge raikage's attack, when he wanted to stop Naruto from joining the war

You can't compare early MS Sasuke too EMS Sasuke. He was on a whole different level when he gained EMS speedwise.

Yes ofc you're right, I meant the 4th sorry. I was referring to when Sasuke dodged the raikages attack and tryed to pierce him with chidori. It perfectly showed that the sharingan can easily keep up with high speed.

They won't have enough chakra??? Wow! Naruto has chakra of all Bijuu, half of the sage, and his own very large chakra pool... Chakra isn't a issue even if he made a 100 of them.

Sasuke have zero sensing ability. His Senjutsu is not for that..

Sasuke' s Susanoo was destroyed by vacuum punches from kaguya, it's not taking an asult from sage powered tail beast RS.. If Sasuke is absorbing a attack that means he's vulnerable to other attacks.

Not to hurt Sasuke who has enough defensive abilities to take down puny clones.

Why? Senjutsu givesvu the ability to sense things, theres no difference between sasukes senjutsu, hashis or narutos.

We are talking about Naruto not Kaguya as shes clearly on a different level powerwise. You're acting like the rinnegan absorb takes ages, while it is nearly instant. No one was able to follow up when madara did it.

 

[DHOH]

Yin and Yang complement one another. Both Naruto and Sasuke have unique traits that the other lacks. It's basically described by Naruto and Sasuke being somewhat envious of the other [

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I agree with this... Sasuke just haven't developed his rinnengan fully yet... That will help him tremendously..

 

[DHOH]

You can't compare early MS Sasuke too EMS Sasuke. He was on a whole different level when he gained EMS speedwise.

Yes ofc you're right, I meant the 4th sorry. I was referring to when Sasuke dodged the raikages attack and tryed to pierce him with chidori. It perfectly showed that the sharingan can easily keep up with high speed.


Not to hurt Sasuke who has enough defensive abilities to take down puny clones.

Why? Senjutsu givesvu the ability to sense things, theres no difference between sasukes senjutsu, hashis or narutos.

We are talking about Naruto not Kaguya as shes clearly on a different level powerwise. You're acting like the rinnegan absorb takes ages, while it is nearly instant. No one was able to follow up when madara did it.

Lol puny clones? I'm sure you Remeber what the clones did during the war and that before syncing with Kurama for KCM.. Naruto has powered two more modes since than.

Yes it is... Sasuke's Senjutsu only allows him to hurt JJ, nothing more. It doesn't give durability, strength, or speed...

Kaguya is not on a different level power wise.. I'm sure Naruto resengans are just as strong as anything Kaguya have.

 

[Sasuke tyeezy]

They won't have enough chakra??? Wow! Naruto has chakra of all Bijuu, half of the sage, and his own very large chakra pool... Chakra isn't a issue even if he made a 100 of them.

Sasuke have zero sensing ability. His Senjutsu is not for that..

Sasuke' s Susanoo was destroyed by vacuum punches from kaguya, it's not taking an asult from sage powered tail beast RS.. If Sasuke is absorbing a attack that means he's vulnerable to other attacks.

It was stated he couldn't attack & absorb at the same time because his rennigan was relatively new(Chap.698/699) . After several years(Chap. 700) he should be seasoned enough to absorb & attack simultaneously , just saying

 

[DHOH]

It was stated he couldn't attack & absorb at the same time because his rennigan was relatively new(Chap.698/699) . After several years(Chap. 700) he should be seasoned enough to absorb & attack simultaneously , just saying

I agree completely.. That's why I said the Sasuke at the end of 698..

After several years of mastering his rinnengan, he's everybit of Naruto's equal just from the power the rinnengan grants.

 

[take it easy]

And they still ended up on the ground in a draw.

It wasn't a draw. Sasuke wanted kill Naruto physically but he couldn't.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It wasn't a draw. Sasuke wanted kill Naruto physically but he couldn't.

He did beat Naruto physically, as Naruto ended up on the ground without an arm and unable to move without dying. And Naruto beat Sasuke physically, leaving him in the same condition. A draw.

 

[DHOH]

It wasn't a draw. Sasuke wanted kill Naruto physically but he couldn't.

Lol if Sasuke would've killed Naruto it would be Sasuke win.. Since that didn't happen and both was unable to fight no matter the circumstances, it ended in a draw.

 

[End of Days]

I agree, great thread, without the massive temporary boost of nine bijuus sasuke would have lost badly.

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

OP is respectable. Doesn't take side. Agrees Sasuke will be alot stronger with a developed Rinnegan. Good job DHOH

 

[blazingizanagi45]

Itachi's greatest strengths are Naruto's greatest weaknesses (genjutsu and intelligence).

Itachi's greatest strengths are Sasuke's greatest weaknesses (genjutsu, ninjutsu, taijutsu and intelligence).

That means Itachi solos.

 

[Demonic.]

Lol at the Sasuke fanboys

RSM Naruto > Rinnegan Sasuke

RSM Naruto = Rinnegan Sasuke w/Biju abosorbed.

Not that hard.

 

[Kai NB]

I agree with what you have to say

 

[DHOH]

I agree, great thread, without the massive temporary boost of nine bijuus sasuke would have lost badly.

Yea and that was with naruto just attempting to stop sasuke, not defeat him..

 

[Kakooli]

Tell me this again when Naruto actually manages to defeat Sasuke.

 

[DHOH]

Tell me this again when Naruto actually manages to defeat Sasuke.

With naruto being able to use Kruama to gather natural energy out of no where and sasuke didn't have mastery over his sharingan, the only reason Naruto didn't win is because he didn't want to..

 

[shelke]

Couldn't overpower Sasuke, when Sasuke didn't use Petra Path and conveniently ran out of chakra just when he was about to use Chibaku Tensai.

You gotta be kidding, do you really think that sharingan can keep up with sage mode?? Sasuke with MS wasn't able to keep up with Bee when Sasuke wanted to capture him, on the other hand Naruto was able to counter one of the fastest ninja in the world 3rd Raikage, now tell me how sharingan can keep up with sage mode

Wrong. Sasuke was able to keep up with Bee just fine. In fact, he was never recovered from his fight with Itachi, something both Jugo and himself confirm. Even then, he went into the Kenjutsu battle without Sharingan and turned it on some time later during the battle.
When Sasuke dodged Bee's V1 attack, Bee commented that his brother was the only other guy to do so. Sasuke also evaded V1 Raikage just fine, and reacted immediately after the dodge to attack him. When even KCM Naruto couldn't pass this guy without that one time deus ex machina.

Third Raikage is a lot slower than 4th. Given that the mist ninja created a lava balloon when he was almost on their heels, rescuing Naruto. The ninjas were able to make Doton Walls before he caught up with them. Then we have Bee's incident. Jugo blitzed Bee from behind, a guy that matched V2 Ae's lariet, but got thrown around like a rag doll by V1 Ae, who was man-handling both KCM Naruto and Bee at the same time.

How the heck is Sasuke not fast? Give me a break. Hebi Sasuke shits all over Minato's best Kushina rescue feat. But he can't handle Bee or SM Naruto, who is a lot slower than the former?

If his body cannot keep up, then there is no way Sasuke with EMS can keep up with Naruto sage mode. Sage Mode Naruto's body is as fast as his senses, as it was shown with 3rd raikage. Even when he fought Nagato (who had rinnegan) it was no problem for Naruto to take down one of pain's bodies using frog kumite. I guess you meant 4th raikage, not sure about if he was able to keep up, it seemed more like he was lucky to have susano, otherwise he would be long dead after one hit from raikage. KCM naruto was able to dodge raikage's attack, when he wanted to stop Naruto from joining the war

Pein bodies are fast? No they aren't. EMS Sasuke is slower than SM Naruto? Lol This guy:

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- Sasuke reacting faster than Minato to save Naruto -

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- Sasuke was able to keep up with Juubito just fine. It was Naruto, who was initially having difficulty.

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- Sasuke is shown to dodge high-speed attacks pretty easily. This one was from V1 Bee – an attack only his brother had dodged.

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- EMS Sasuke attacking Juubito and keeping with BSM Naruto.

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- Sasuke attacking side by Side with Naruto and reaching Sakura first.

- This is how fast the God Trees roots grab its opponents:

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- Even those in Chakra Cloak cannot escape.
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- Yet Sasuke Speedily cuts its roots.


Sasuke was keeping up with Kurama Mode Naruto throughout the entirety of the battle. They couldn't perform attacks in unison without Naruto slowing himself down through clumsy maneuvers.

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- Sasuke pinning down Kabuto’s Snake with his Katana. The same Snake that dodged an arrow.

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- Mines planted right under the Dragon.
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- Deidara Floating on his Dragon. Look at that Dragon's size and then Deidara's.

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- Sasuke exiting right, Evading ALL of that explosion in a blink of an eye. He jumped up immediately afterwards to avoid the blast.

Best Minato Body-flicker feat:

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- Note the size here. The size of the cliff and Obito's head. Now compare it to Dragon size, along with Deidara's size and the size of explosion:

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Note: Minato covered the distance exactly from Kyuubi's arm to that cliff -

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That's 'Literally' about thrice the size of distance Minato covered. Minato's best body-flicker feat is laughable before Sasuke.

As for the whole ‘so fast argument’: was there anyone – Obito, Madara, Guy and Kakashi combined attacks as well - who wasn’t able to read Naruto’s super-fast movements?

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- Hachibi is behind Naruto here. BM Naruto charges and goes further ahead -

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- Yet when Obito throws the Giant Shurikens out of his Kamui -

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- it’s Bee who reacts first, not BM Naruto -

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- Obito is not even able to keep up with and anticipate him but throw out Stakes from Kamui dimension as well.

BM Naruto throws stakes here -

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- Obito throws Gunbai at Madara – the stakes have yet to make it, by the way –

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- Madara blocks them with Ribcage Susano’o’s aura –

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- He even caught a damn kick from the Jin on his jaw and I haven't even touched upon these:

- He tripped over a root in KCM.
- Got saved by Bee several times against V0 Jins.
- Got kicked around a few times, when Bee in BM had to step in.

How is Sasuke, who has better feats than KCM Naruto, slower than SM Naruto? How fast do you think those Pein bodies are anyway?

 

[DarkStar1]

Naruto >>> Sasuke, even with Sasuke utilizing the power of the Bijuu against Naruto.

These are the facts, kiddies. Sasuke still hasn't surpassed Kakashi, let alone Naruto.

 

[Arima]

Wrong. Sasuke was able to keep up with Bee just fine. In fact, he was never recovered from his fight with Itachi, something both Jugo and himself confirm. Even then, he went into the Kenjutsu battle without Sharingan and turned it on some time later during the battle.
When Sasuke dodged Bee's V1 attack, Bee commented that his brother was the only other guy to do so. Sasuke also evaded V1 Raikage just fine, and reacted immediately after the dodge to attack him. When even KCM Naruto couldn't pass this guy without that one time deus ex machina.

Third Raikage is a lot slower than 4th. Given that the mist ninja created a lava balloon when he was almost on their heels, rescuing Naruto. The ninjas were able to make Doton Walls before he caught up with them. Then we have Bee's incident. Jugo blitzed Bee from behind, a guy that matched V2 Ae's lariet, but got thrown around like a rag doll by V1 Ae, who was man-handling both KCM Naruto and Bee at the same time.

How the heck is Sasuke not fast? Give me a break. Hebi Sasuke shits all over Minato's best Kushina rescue feat. But he can't handle Bee or SM Naruto, who is a lot slower than the former?

Sasuke was able to keep up with Bee just fine, ok let's see how he was able to keep up:

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Sasuke was keeping up just fine, he is stabbed with only 5 swords,

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Now Sasuke just got deathly hit in his chest. Sage Mode Naruto would sense Bee moving a finger after he fell, while Sasuke's sharingan did not help, now tell me how Sage mode is inferior to MS,

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Now, why are you comparing Sasuke's Sharingan to KCM, I was talking about Sage Mode. In any case even KCM Naruto is still faster than Sasuke. Sasuke's sharingan is fast at reading attacks and figuring out a ways to dodge them, however Sasuke still has speed limit on his body, so do you believe that Sasuke would be able to get past Ay, no way it would ever happen. Naruto's KCM mode speed is highly enhanced by Kurama chakra, while Sasuke has nothing like that.

And finally this statement that makes my head explode:
"Give me a break. Hebi Sasuke shits all over Minato's best Kushina rescue feat. But he can't handle Bee or SM Naruto, who is a lot slower than the former?"

Who told you that Sasuke is faster than Minato, where did you read that? Any manga facts? It is just you biased, Naruto hater statement, upon which you try to build your argument. Minato is faster than Naruto (KCM, SM), it is true, then you say Sasuke (Hebi, EMS) is faster than Minato, which is total bullshit. Then there is this bogus statement, Sasuke speed>Minato>Naruto, you should consider thinking before writing, less hate more actual facts.