Naruto's Eyes are better than Sharingan

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It's safe to say that Saskues sharingan would not be able to keep up with Narutos present speed while km or bm. As for Narutos eyes being able to see at the speed of light would only make sence if he is moving at the speed of light. Take the fight between A and Saskue, if A was moving so fast Saskues sharingan couldn't keep up with him but yet A was able to land hit after hit on him even though Saskues sus'aano blocked most of them. My point is if you are moving at such high speeds your vision would have to adapt to such speeds. I am sure that the amount of chakra also plays a big factor. that just my opinion.

I wanat to add to this quote. Comparing Naruto's eyes being better that sharinga in terms of vission and not the powers, it was true that sasuke's sharingan could not keep up with Raikage's speed . But when naruto was in his fox mode, he could see, keepup and even dodge Raikage fastest speed. Naruto speed is a major factor that determins how good are his eyes. His eyes and his body speed are of thesame level far better than the sharingan interms of vision and not powers.
 

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Everything else you said just backed up what I said the whole time. Also, his eyes seeing faster would mean that his eyes would be better.

yo do realize in order to aim, you have to see.... And sensing has nothing to do with seeing. and he was reffering to KM. and the pic u showed was SM. Also... sensing you can do with your eyes closed, his eyes werent closed when he attacked the the raikage i went over this already.

Also he uses the word seeing. Seeing and sensing are different. His sensing comes into play, when it comes into telling people apart. The attack and dodging comes by seeing. So he can feel where the opponent is, but he still has to see in order to PRECISELY attack back.
 
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FTG & NARUTO'S LIGHTENING SPEED DIFFERS BUT COMPARED TO SHARINGAN IS IN ANOTHER LEVEL ENTIRELY, i like the mathimatical/scientific/physics calculation done by this thread writer but whats d point in comparing speed with vision? I dont getit!
 
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oh!!! I see, niw i getit, ofcos naruto vision is much better that sharingan in terms of speed i mean, changing d course of five beast bombs instantly is crazy like d fox...even minato couldnt do that. Sasuke is gonna beg for mercy whn the end comes bcos naruto can see and sense all but on d other hand sasuke could easily copy naruto'speed and use it against him.IMO
 

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ur first mistake is comparing reality with narutoverse..yes some of the basic concepts are true but there a many that isnt, for example how can lightening element be superior to earth? and i don't think kishi got a degree in quantum physics just so he could write naruto.
so no...his eyes are not better than the sharingan
 

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If i could delete this i would. I hate minato fanboys.

if the guy is serious, then i agree with you. however, it makes a good point. when we found out how minato was (at the time at least) the fastest in the whole manga, if people had posted saying "minato's eyes are better than the sharingan", honestly how would you have reacted?

probably, "omg what a fanboy" right? just because someone is fast, doesn't mean their eyes percieve more. i think naruto is WAY better than sasuke (personal opinion etc etc) but sasuke has the sharingan, period (pants).

other ppl have mentioned lee vs sasuke and raikage vs sasuke as examples and they are right. in part 1 of the manga the sharingan's main selling point was is perception (in sasuke's case, obv., for kakashi copying is huge too). This was probably because the main cast was young and relatively slow, so it was a huge advantage. since part 2, the enemies have got faster and faster, testing sasuke more and coming up to his level, sometimes surpassing it in terms of speed.

My point: The relative superiority of Naruto's eyes is not due to his being able to see better than sasuke, but perhaps more due to a shift in focus for the sharingan in the manga away from the perception abilities and more towards the powers. You can see this in the shift of his fighting style from acrobatic taijutsu to gaara style "stand in the middle and OP" style. Two years ago, who would've seen that coming? I think Sasuke would have no problem percieving Naruto at his top speed. Whether he can keep up with him is to be seen.
 

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No, they aint better than a sharigan but he is better suited for them than a sharigan.
 

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I always thought about this nice about pointing this out i think this is a plot hole.

He has a point in the scientific, and logic way. I really like when people do their part of thinking instead of sucking everything and then being ignorant buy saying no can't be without any explanation or facts.
 

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I guess if your point is that he can see where he is going at high speeds but in relation to power...ur ****ing retarded
 

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Not tryin to b mean but how honestly how yea naruto is fast but seriously how his eyes are REGULAR there like mine and yours no question sasuke
 

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I understand, I was just clearing that up.

As per perception, it depends on the size and distance of the object.

You could see a planet moving many times faster than sound in our solar system and it hardly seems like its moving, but you couldn't see a bullet pass in front of your face.


An instance of real life bullet time, your brain actually is the control for what you see and how fast it moves, therefor all the eye crud... bs...
 

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An instance of real life bullet time, your brain actually is the control for what you see and how fast it moves, therefor all the eye crud... bs...

Obviously. But in the narutoverse, it's the power of the eyes. You don't see sasuke's eyes making his brain faster. Kakashi's brain didn't get bigger when he gained the sharingan.
 

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I'm not saying the sharingan is more powerful, because that's not true. BUT, kakashi when moving at, what... 50 mph at most? could only see what was directly in front of him which is why he was forbidden from using it, now picture that he was moving 500,000 times faster, if he could perceive his target clearly and without the sharingan, then his eyes would be on par with the sharingan, assuming the sharingan can see that well (which it can't proven when sasuke couldn't perceive Itachi's movement speed or hand seal speed.)

your point why kakashi needed a sharingan at that time to use chidori is wrong.
it's not cuz he was running 50mph or whatever (btw why can u drive a car faster?).
its because in such a "rush" its hard to react on enemys reactions (the very finest details).
and so he used sharingan to avoid a double takeout :D
 

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Thanks everyone for making this thread #2 on Narutobase! :D
 

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What you were saying sorta makes sense, naruto would have to keep up with his movements and thus his eyesight should be extremely good, but the thing ur forgetting is that sharingan actually predicts and analyses technique before and during action, there is no way naruto's eyes could do that just because he can keep up with his own movements, i believe someone has stated it already but if he was moving at the speed of light, everything surround him would appear to be a tunnel regardless of his eyesight
 

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what the fug is this...everyone knows Tobi is the fastest.....he can teleport anywhere...running and flying thundergods dont mean anything when you can reanimate yourself anywhere in the world
 

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As we all know, the sharingan allows the user to track movements of extremely fast enemies to the extent that they almost have a precognitive ability of seeing what their opponent is going to do.

Now, if you've ever seen a movie, then you know each second is made up of frames that move so fast your eyes can't physically process each frame individually and so they are all blended together to make it seem as if the movie is happening in real time. These frames move at 24 frames per second which means that each frame is put on screen for 1/24th of a second. Each second on screen uses 1.5 feet of reel for every 24 frames. Which means that anything moving at a speed of 1.5 feet per second is indistinguishable to the human eye.

Naruto as we also know, is now the fastest character in the manga, and probably the fastest character in the entirety of the world. [Naruto can move at speeds faster than Minato Namikaze's Flying Thunder God which is described as being near instantaneous (let's call it light-speed for argument's sake). The speed of light is approximately 989,315,111 feet/second, 659,543,407 x the speed of which the human eye can perceive.] [EDIT] I have recently been convinced/reminded that Naruto is not faster than FTG. Now, for argument's sake again, let's SAY FTG is the speed of light (which already is a huge compromise seeing as it's much MUCH faster than light). Also let's say Naruto moves even 5000 x slower than light speed. He is still moving at speeds of 197,863 feet/second. Faster than the human eye can make out, which means the scenery naruto is passing by seems to be moving that fast from Naruto's point of view, meaning if he can perceive the scenery around him, his eyes are on par with the sharingan. [EDIT]

When moving at these speeds, it would be impossible to distinguish objects outside of you from each other because of the tunnel effect (even present when kakashi used his chidori for the first time). This could be remedied when fighting characters of an evil nature such as tobi and the tailed beasts due to his new ability to sense evil thoughts and feelings.

However, when using these speeds against opponents such as A, when near hinata, or when fighting characters brought back by the Edo Tensei who are not inherently evil but are being forced to fight against their will, his ability to sense negative emotions would not help in seeing or sensing where these people are.

With that said, naruto must be able to see his enemies and the terrain clearly while in his Nine Tails Chakra Shroud as he cannot use sage mode simultaneously. Therefor, naruto's eyes are AT THE VERY LEAST, on par with the sharingan.

That's all i have to say. I know it's a manga where people can breath fire and walk on water, but i just wanted to point out the science behind Naruto. xd

I look at it like this. Yes narutos speed has increased and his reaction time is really OP. If you remember the fight between lee and sasuke, lee was able to beat sasuke because even though sasuke can see him, lee was just too fast for his body to react to lees speed. Naruto has basically gotten a better reaction time. I bet you the sharingan users can still see naruto coming, but he is coming so fast that they cannot react.
 
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