Naruto's Eyes are better than Sharingan

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I understand, I was just clearing that up.

As per perception, it depends on the size and distance of the object.

You could see a planet moving many times faster than sound in our solar system and it hardly seems like its moving, but you could see a bullet pass in front of your face.

I'm not saying the sharingan is more powerful, because that's not true. BUT, kakashi when moving at, what... 50 mph at most? could only see what was directly in front of him which is why he was forbidden from using it, now picture that he was moving 500,000 times faster, if he could perceive his target clearly and without the sharingan, then his eyes would be on par with the sharingan, assuming the sharingan can see that well (which it can't proven when sasuke couldn't perceive Itachi's movement speed or hand seal speed.)
 

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WTF???
(switches eyes to Sharigan)

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Is anyone READING this...? If you can move at speeds faster than light, then you can SEE at speeds faster than light.

No, that is not true. When kakashi was running at the enemy with his Chidori for the first time, he did not see that enemies were coming at him because there was a tunnel vision. there is a lot of things that he missed because the area around him was moving too fast for his eye's to take and process the data. There is no bases to your claim, scientific or otherwise. The only way Kakashi got passed that was having the Sharingan at his back the second time. Having byakugan or sharingan are far better then normal eyes.

If anything and please be aware this is specualtion not fact! The karuma's chakra may enhance his vision to help him out, but his normal eyes are no match for Sharingan or Byakugan.
 
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No, that is no true. When kakashi was running at the enemy with his Chidori for the first time, he did not see that enemies were coming at him because there was a tunnel vision. there is a lot of things that he missed because the area around him was moving too fast for his eye's to take and process the data. There is no bases to your claim, scientific or otherwise. The only way Kakashi got passed that was having the Sharingan at his back the second time. Having byakugan or sharingan are far better then normal eyes.

If anything and please be aware this is specualtion not fact! The karuma's chakra may enhance his vision to help him out, but his normal eyes are no match for Sharingan or Byakugan.

I'm confused... are you saying naruto doesn't have tunnel vision like kakashi did...? Because if not then he can clearly see at those speeds, which is exactly what i'm saying.
 

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He just has better reaction time, which by the way can also be attributed to his skills as a sensor. Naruto's eyes aren't necessarily better than the Sharingan, he's just clutch. Let's put it this way, if you gave Naruto the Sharingan would that make his eyes worse?
 

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He just has better reaction time, which by the way can also be attributed to his skills as a sensor. Naruto's eyes aren't necessarily better than the Sharingan, he's just clutch. Let's put it this way, if you gave Naruto the Sharingan would that make his eyes worse?

I addressed his skills as a sensor in the thread.
 

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I'm confused... are you saying naruto doesn't have tunnel vision like kakashi did...? Because if not then he can clearly see at those speeds, which is exactly what i'm saying.

It hasn't been said that naruto's eyes are capable of seeing clearly at those speeds. There hasn't been been any other technique that augments the eyes perception where they could see clearly at high speeds besides the sharingan.
 

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It hasn't been said that naruto's eyes are capable of seeing clearly at those speeds. There hasn't been been any other technique that augments the eyes perception where they could see clearly at high speeds besides the sharingan.

So.... he just.... wings it? He hopes what he's running at is what he wants?
 

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I addressed his skills as a sensor in the thread.
Why not respond to both of my points? Let me reiterate. If Naruto's eyes are actually better than the Sharingan like you stated, then that would mean that if you replaced his normal eyes with the Sharingan his visual perception, and ability to react while moving at high speeds would be degraded. You don't really believe that do you?
 

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It's safe to say that Saskues sharingan would not be able to keep up with Narutos present speed while km or bm. As for Narutos eyes being able to see at the speed of light would only make sence if he is moving at the speed of light. Take the fight between A and Saskue, if A was moving so fast Saskues sharingan couldn't keep up with him but yet A was able to land hit after hit on him even though Saskues sus'aano blocked most of them. My point is if you are moving at such high speeds your vision would have to adapt to such speeds. I am sure that the amount of chakra also plays a big factor. that just my opinion.
 

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Why not respond to both of my points? Let me reiterate. If Naruto's eyes are actually better than the Sharingan like you stated, then that would mean that if you replaced his normal eyes with the Sharingan his visual perception, and ability to react while moving at high speeds would be degraded. You don't really believe that do you?

Hmm. Let me think about it and get back to you. :) That's a good question.
 

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So.... he just.... wings it? He hopes what he's running at is what he wants?

Not really. He can still see, but he probably experiences a great deal of tunnel vision similar to what kakashi had when he was moving at high speed. He is still capable of processing what is happening in his surroundings, but he wouldn't be able to process all of it like a person with a sharingan could.

When kakashi did it, he was focused on one single point and moved in a vertical fashion to give the chidori it's thrusting power. Naruto can move in any direction even quicker and with greater agility, but since he, like kakashi, had regular eyes, he will still experience tunnel vision where most of his surroundings that aren't within his focus point will be mostly obscured.

If he continues to KM to move at those speeds regularly, then it is likely that his eyes will adapt to help him perceive any fast moving objects, though it probably won't be perfectly clear.
 
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First of all ill + rep you, not because i agree but because you speak some sense, However there are a couple of things to note. Firstly naruto's speed isnt on par with ftg, get that out of your head xd.

Secondly i get what you are trying to say, but ill call what naruto can do plot no jutsu.
I agree that naruto travelling at such speed in bm should have eyes that will allow him to see things clearly at such speed and such eyes surpasses what teh sharigan can do, but i dont think that was what kishi intended. I believe its plot no jutsu. Example how naruto was able to evade A is still beyond me. He has the speed, but im not sure where his reaction time came from, for him to react to such speed against A. You can have all the speed in the world, if you cannot react to certain things you cannot evade it. Basically i believe its plot.

Thirdly even if naruto's eyes have such ability doesnt make it better than the sharingan overall. It might have its advantage over the sharingan in this area alone and thats about it
 

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First of all ill + rep you, not because i agree but because you speak some sense, However there are a couple of things to note. Firstly naruto's speed isnt on par with ftg, get that out of your head xd.

Secondly i get what you are trying to say, but ill call what naruto can do plot no jutsu.
I agree that naruto travelling at such speed in bm should have eyes that will allow him to see things clearly at such speed and such eyes surpasses what teh sharigan can do, but i dont think that was what kishi intended. I believe its plot no jutsu. Example how naruto was able to evade A is still beyond me. He has the speed, but im not sure where his reaction time came from, for him to react to such speed against A. You can have all the speed in the world, if you cannot react to certain things you cannot evade it. Basically i believe its plot.

Thirdly even if naruto's eyes have such ability doesnt make it better than the sharingan overall. It might have its advantage over the sharingan in this area alone and thats about it

Why would it be required? Afterall, when kakashi first used chidori and moved at high speeds, he wasn't able to see everything clearly, which is why using chidori at that time was dangerous.

Though I do believe that some training will likely help a person's eyes adapt to moving at such speeds.
 

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First of all ill + rep you, not because i agree but because you speak some sense, However there are a couple of things to note. Firstly naruto's speed isnt on par with ftg, get that out of your head xd.

Secondly i get what you are trying to say, but ill call what naruto can do plot no jutsu.
I agree that naruto travelling at such speed in bm should have eyes that will allow him to see things clearly at such speed and such eyes surpasses what teh sharigan can do, but i dont think that was what kishi intended. I believe its plot no jutsu. Example how naruto was able to evade A is still beyond me. He has the speed, but im not sure where his reaction time came from, for him to react to such speed against A. You can have all the speed in the world, if you cannot react to certain things you cannot evade it. Basically i believe its plot.

Thirdly even if naruto's eyes have such ability doesnt make it better than the sharingan overall. It might have its advantage over the sharingan in this area alone and thats about it

I agree. Especially with the reaction time point. I think a lot of people got it in their head that i thought it was better than the sharingan in every way. I'm just talking about the perception point. Haha. And i believe his speed is on par with FTG in the same way that FTG and the Heavenly Transfer Technique used by the sensor division are on par. One is clearly faster but they're both so fast that it doesn't even matter in the end.
 
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