Narutos current status.
- Thread starter ThePain
- Start date
i dont understand why people are saying naruto is going to learn all the hokage jutsu... come on jiraiya was talking about the kyubbi chakra its obvious...he even told kakashi about it and gave paper seal to force back the chakra and that was all around the same time
sasukesgirl121
Member
A.) First calm down and please read what I wrote as you quoted it. I don't mind opinions, but please don't quote me when you're not replying to me directly. I also don't mind being refuted or being wrong. Thanks
1.) I said nothing about any jutsu except "that" jutsu, which requires the use of Kyuubi chakra. Whether that chakra is the jutsu itself, controlling the Kyuubi, or whether it is a means to an end (i.e. a different jutsu requiring the Kyuubi) I don't know.
1b.) I also believe Naruto will perfect his existing jutsu, FRS and sage mode. Of course there's Itachi's special power that will only be used under a specific circumstance.
2.) Other than that I suppose it is more distant to predict from the literature some other jutsu.
I believe that Yamato and Ma toad will be his trainers from now on. However, Naruto will doe extensive training on his own.
chokocrumble
Member
hi!
can I ask you something about the manga...I can't find the episode where yuukimaru and guren is involve...please kindly tell me.tnx
can I ask you something about the manga...I can't find the episode where yuukimaru and guren is involve...please kindly tell me.tnx
Killerbee1250
Member
#1, this has nothing to do with the current topic. What you should have done is created a new thread.
#2, I believe he only appears in the Anime. (Source:
You must be registered for see links
yes naruto is still weak compared to sasuke, thats what i think....And the 2 years he has been gone with jiraiya for training was useless. Cause the only new jutsu he learned oodama rasengan and how to counterpart itachis' genjutsu....two wasted years....not much improvement........
Response to the above:
A.) Naruto came back smarter. He has learned what it takes to bring peace to the ninja world due to his discussions with Minato and Jiraiya along with his own insights. The 2.5 years were spent improving Naruto's fundamentals (chakra control, creative fighting,...) and attempting to improve his control of the Kyuubi (The seal was weakening). Just because he didn't come back with some fancy jutsu, doesn't mean he didn't learn anything. Jiraiya taught him things that Naruto needs to be a man, Hokage, and destined child. He also explained taijutsu, ninjutsu, and genjutsu defense. The genjutsu defense was only shown against Itachi, whom pretty much everyone is fooled, including Sasuke who has the Sharingan.
If Naruto hadn't trained with Jiraiya, I don't believe he would be able to find the correct answer to peace.
What Naruto has done since returning:
Since then, Naruto has come close to completing FRS. His mastery of mass shadow clone jutsu is incredible. He's close to mastering sage mode and collecting nature chakra while moving. He still hasn't created his own jutsu, so that's up ahead. I think he has regained control over the Kyuubi again since Minato fixed the seal for now. His chakra control is excellent as seen by his summoning jutsu ability. He's learned toad kung fu, which employs nature chakra. Naruto has become an excellent tactician, adapting his fighting style in battle while retaining unpredictability.
Sasuke & Naruto:
Given that Pein/Nagato could not defeat him, while using everything he had, Naruto is quite strong. He has overcome his toughest opponent, while Sasuke has not. He failed to defeat Killerbee, 8-tails.
Sasuke will get stronger, but I don't see him at this point being able to defeat Naruto. To our knowledge he hasn't mastered his MS. Wind is greater than lightning. Sasuke is a very intentional fighter, which isn't a bad thing. Itachi was similar. However, this makes one somewhat predictable. If you can't stop the opponent anyway it's irrelevant.
Sasuke has his fire jutsu, and I think Naruto is fast enough to dodge. With respect to speed and strength, sage mode Naruto is likely superior. Naruto also tops him in stamina and chakra.
Simply put I think Sasuke is weaker than Nagato let alone Naruto. The thing about them, Naruto and Sasuke, is that they will always be equally strong rivals but excelling in different areas. That's the nature of the story. Right now I go with Naruto, but before sage mode I would've gone with Sasuke. Who knows what happens when Sasuke get's EMS. I believe that there is a fourth technique. Also, if Sasuke unlocks Susanoo (Itachi's third doujutsu) that's going to be something. Don't forget that right now, Sasuke's eyesight is deteriorating until he takes Itachi's eyes. That's a handicap for certain.
There are certain fights that I think Sasuke could win that Naruto would have a much harder time with. Deidara was kind of a joke really though I love his style. Naruto would've had a much harder time defeating him and a much longer fight. Naruto is not a ranged fighter, but I think he can compensate some with clones and his speed in sage mode.
Sage mode defends Naruto against genjutsu. I've written about this many times as have others. Naruto can feel other's chakra, so he'll know when he's in a genjutsu. Also, the constant influx of Nature chakra or it's flow (if unmastered) will disrupt his opponents control of Naruto's chakra inflow to his brain.
Let me refocus on "Naruto's current status."
:naruto::naruto:
Checklist of things he needs to do (not totally in temporal order) :
1.) Work on finding an answer that brings peace to the ninja world at night or during breaks from training. Gain wisdom with experience
2.) Master senjutsu - i.e. gathering nature chakra while moving
3.) Given that 2 is done, master FRS. If he masters senjutsu, then he won't be two FRS and out since he'll be constantly drawing in nature chakra.
4.) Create a new jutsu, not just the completion of an existing one
5.) I'd like him to learn toad jutsu like the stomach of the toad summoning, etc. I don't think he will.
6.) I'd like to see some other wind jutsu. Others want a 2nd element.
7.) A jutsu that's unavoidable {3,4,6?} and a long range jutsu {2,4,6}
8.) Control the Kyuubi chakra from Minato in a jutsu, special power, "that jutsu", or whatever form it takes. Until then he can't defeat Madara.
9.) Redeem Sasuke
10.) Become Hokage
off topic.
But answer is:- it is in fillers which are themselves off topic comparing manga.
BUt still I think fillers are goin hand in hand with manga.
Its true naruto has come back stronger in respect of his chakra control, and his understanding of basic ninja arts(Tai,Nin and Gen).
He has become more creative with shadow clones.
Is applying his unpredictability in battles with his innovtive strategies.
U R Right.
But u made one mistake bro, U can't compare sasuke with naruto's sage techs.
Sasuke's speed lies in his taijutsu not in some other power. He do not need to gather any other energy to increase his speed. On the other hand naruto needs to wait to gather sage energy, until dat he is as fast as snail. Now according to "ThePain" Zetsu will probably tell madara about scroll and after using it naruto goes sage. So next time when naruto will be against akatsuki he won't have chance to use scroll. So sage energy is worthless if he can't use it.
Only one way for naruto is to learn new futon jutsu, like baki's(dat sensei of temari, kankuro and gaara) jutsu which baki used to kill hayate(first examiner), or jutsu like sora(from filler), More sage techs, and learn to gather natural energy while moving........
What you said last is important. By the time they fight I don't think Naruto will require a scroll. Also, Naruto has been entering his fights with Pein already in sage mode. If he learns to gather natural energy while moving, he's quite dangerous.
You are stupid very stupid. God realm not being at full strength was an event that lead to the battle don't use that to say "zomfg leik narutoz gotz lucky cuz god realmz was pwnin". He used up his energy and that went to Naruto's advantage. Nobody in this forum knows how to make a decent theory.
U R absolutely right...Dats what my opinion is and I think "ThePain" is trying to say.
So we agree dat to fight akatsuki(including hebi), naruto needs to get stronger.
What should he learn.
Lets predict on the basis of info from manga.
1)master the art of gathering sage energy while moving.
2)more wind style techniques.
3)better control on Kyubi.(Naruto has to accept d fact dat he can't run
away from Kyubi)
4)better tai,nin and better genjutsu defence.
whats your problem. This one is not a theory. It is a thought. But if you think "Nobody in this forum knows how to make a decent theory", u can show us, by making some good theories.
I think 1 is a given.
For 2.) I'm thinking that Naruto will replace Rasengan with FR, like he used to compare against Kakashi's Rasengan when he can. It doesn't cause him damage, while obviously being more destructive.
For 3.) I think that's a given now because of Minato, but not before that event. That was life changing.
For 4.) I think that Naruto has excellent taijutsu defense when in sage mode. For Ninjutsu defense I'm not sure how to improve beyond sage mode's advantages except through the Kyuubi and Naruto making his own defenses. Currently Naruto is limited by only using jutsu (beside Kage Bunshins simple one, and summoning jutsu) that don't involve hand signs. MS Ameratsu is conveniently hand-sign free yet insanely destructive and unavoidable.
If Naruto masters constantly gathering Nature chakra, I think that will break any genjutsu since it's the same as having someone else infuse their chakra into you. Granted Tsukiyomi works instantly, but I think Naruto has the stamina for it.