Umari Senju
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Serves me right for trying to look at this objectively....I'll let Sasukebase flame this thread to pieces and check back in the morning
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Naruto wrecks!
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So this is without any plot involved.. right? Then lets break it down.
Madara:
- has much more experience and is a better skilled fighter than Naruto
- Has Naruto's power + Sasuke's power + pretty much double their chakra
- His feats: Creating meteors 10 times the size of Konoha, and creating more than 5.. with ease to keep Sasuke busy, Limbo clones to keep Naruto busy.. and then easily floated up into the air for IT.. while the duo couldn't do shit about it.
Naruto:
- has kurama (not even close to juubi's chakra, Juubi's chakra > 1-9 tails combined)
- has the 50% of Rikudou's
- is inferior to Madara in combat and experience
Without plot:
- Madara wrecks Naruto while Naruto is handling the limbo clones, and then proceeds to wreck Sasuke while hes dealing with Chibaku tensei..
- Uses his superior skills in combat to destroy them in taijutsu, and ninjutsu.
With plot (what actually happened):
- Madara forgets he has ninja skills, and stands in one place like an idiot.
- He forgets that he can use Mokuton, and EMS techs like Susanoo
So it comes down to the plot being involved or not.
Madara:
- has much more experience and is a better skilled fighter than Naruto
- Has Naruto's power + Sasuke's power + pretty much double their chakra
- His feats: Creating meteors 10 times the size of Konoha, and creating more than 5.. with ease to keep Sasuke busy, Limbo clones to keep Naruto busy.. and then easily floated up into the air for IT.. while the duo couldn't do shit about it.
Naruto:
- has kurama (not even close to juubi's chakra, Juubi's chakra > 1-9 tails combined)
- has the 50% of Rikudou's
- is inferior to Madara in combat and experience
Without plot:
- Madara wrecks Naruto while Naruto is handling the limbo clones, and then proceeds to wreck Sasuke while hes dealing with Chibaku tensei..
- Uses his superior skills in combat to destroy them in taijutsu, and ninjutsu.
With plot (what actually happened):
- Madara forgets he has ninja skills, and stands in one place like an idiot.
- He forgets that he can use Mokuton, and EMS techs like Susanoo
So it comes down to the plot being involved or not.
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That unstable mass of chakra is still dangerous thing they need to face. Not that after he throw all that FRS, Kaguya became incapable/defective. That thing is more unpredictable and more violence than Kaguya herself. It need Kakashi's asspull to help them.
Thats mean by turning Madara's juubi chakra to unsrable state, doesnt mean Naruto won or in a path to gain a victory. If that so why Naruto and Sasuke not perform a killing blow after Kaguya unstable? on the contrary they are clueless on how to deal with Juubi.
Naruto not turning this chakra back to 9 separated Bijuu but Juubi. Its unwise move.
Thats mean by turning Madara's juubi chakra to unsrable state, doesnt mean Naruto won or in a path to gain a victory. If that so why Naruto and Sasuke not perform a killing blow after Kaguya unstable? on the contrary they are clueless on how to deal with Juubi.
Naruto not turning this chakra back to 9 separated Bijuu but Juubi. Its unwise move.
Haa, forgetting madara has shinra tensei (possibly continet level), his juusano, limbo to switch or goudodama (even if it breaks goudodama, the goudodama will reduce the effect), the easiest is limbo switch, and narutos attack goes to waste or shinra tensei, defence and offence at the same time, do you know why madara was nerfed, so he won't beat the living crap out of those two, thus why kaguya was brought backI'm tired of people believing madara to be unstoppable although he was negged by Black Zetsu. Today I'm going to show you how and why Naruto would wreck madara one on one.
People believe the only way to defeat madara was to seal him, that simply isn't true. Madara is no Kaguya, he wasn't the progenitor and he definitely wasn't invincible. Naruto would've wrecked Kaguya had she been anyone else with this jutsu.
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After being hit by Naruto's jutsu, the goddess herself became an unstable mass of chakra.
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Note that was the goddess herself wrecked by Naruto. Now put madara in her shoes and say Naruto's jutsu hit him. Madara would be wrecked instantly and the bijuu extracted. Kaguya only survived because she is the juubi itself, even so it took her awhile to become stable and regain composer.
Thank you and Naruto Uzumaki FTW!
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Same thing happen can be said for Kaguya. She can wreck team 7 easily, its not Madara exclusive only bcus it involved two most powerful beings in NV. The switching of villains not a wise moves from Kishi's part bcus he still need to defied logic and used an asspull or plot armor to protect his main characters.
Be it Madara or Kaguya, the only thing sensible people can expect is Team 7 die.
Might I add, those chibaku tenseis were faaaar bigger than konoha, sasukes chibaku tensei was bigger than nagatos, at it encased the whole kurama, while nagatos did'nt, and all 9 sasukes chibaku, is'nt even as big as one of madara's, how OP would madaras Shinsuu senju be, we already saw a planetary jukai koutan, so imagine how big his SS would be, plot nerf
True, kaguya would mop the floor with them, for example, how the hell did obito and kakashi move in a gravity dimension, when the owner of the dimension could'nt, or how the hell did'nt kaguya sense saukra above her and shoot multiple ash bones at her? Plot, plot nerf
You argument for madara "without plot" goes both ways. Unrestricted Naruto wrecks anyone. He'd have all nine bijuu KKG/abilities and their minds/wisdom. He also has basically unlimited chakra and can gather natural energy on a whim. Imagine 10,000 RSM Naruto clones unrestricted with all nine bijuu KKG/abilities, not to mention Naruto's gudodama. gg nv.
Imagine 4 limbos with PS, a country sized shinsuu senjuu, a juusano, an army of rinnegan summons, wood dragons, wood golem, and 10,000 clones, the kkg gets absorbed, repelled, or tankedYou argument for madara "without plot" goes both ways. Unrestricted Naruto wrecks anyone. He'd have all nine bijuu KKG/abilities and their minds/wisdom. He also has basically unlimited chakra and can gather natural energy on a whim. Imagine 10,000 RSM Naruto clones unrestricted with all nine bijuu KKG/abilities, not to mention Naruto's gudodama. gg nv.
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Did Madara also can used Wood/Shadow clones logically from what he already shown us and not just Limbo clones? Its all Juubi powered clones to say the least. He can use that to fight with all 10,000 RSM Naruto's clones.You argument for madara "without plot" goes both ways. Unrestricted Naruto wrecks anyone. He'd have all nine bijuu KKG/abilities and their minds/wisdom. He also has basically unlimited chakra and can gather natural energy on a whim. Imagine 10,000 RSM Naruto clones unrestricted with all nine bijuu KKG/abilities, not to mention Naruto's gudodama. gg nv.
With Juubi unlimited chakra sure logically and possibly Madara can produce 10,000 clones also. There are plethora of power/tech Madara can utilize to up against Naruto bcus he have both Rikudou body and eyes.
This goes without plot involved:bdpf:
Withou plot Naruto could use sexy no jutsu and rape madara three ways from sunday.Did Madara also can used Wood/Shadow clones logically from what he already shown us and not just Limbo clones? Its all Juubi powered clones to say the least. He can use that to fight with all 10,000 RSM Naruto's clones.
With Juubi unlimited chakra sure logically and possibly Madara can produce 10,000 clones also. There are plethora of power/tech Madara can utilize to up against Naruto bcus he have both Rikudou body and eyes.
This goes without plot involved:bdpf:
That was kishi telling us naruto and sasuke can't handle madara, so he subbed him, black zetsu not being madaras will makes zero sense, as kuro zetsu didnt know madara would think of creating him, madara literally used yin yang release to create zetsu, so kishi just pulled an asspull, just to pull off madara (because as the mangaka said, he was too damn strong)
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Madara encountered every single technique and negged it, negged the two ftg users, limbo negged the tailbeasts (even kurama is scared of this *****), negged jinton, negged edo tensei, negged amaterasu, negged the two main xters, negged the kages, negged SA, negged brothers with chakra rods (hashi and tobirama, negged the whole phucking verse, you should be saluting him, only buu did this much in negging, madara negged every single tech 8 gates and all, madara has the most knowledge over techniques, madara is OVER POWERED AS ****, that's why he he toys with shinobis (exception hashi) but coulda negged guy with limbo, but he wanted to feel the fight, so he gave him a moment to shine, madara shitstomp both naruto and sasukeMadara was nothing but a pawn, like all uchiha. Black Zetsu played indra and his incarnates along with the rest of the uchiha like a fiddle.
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UzumakiRyu
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Madara encountered Sasuke's S/T and got cut in half.
Madara encoutered Naruto's 9 TBRS and got cut in half
Madara's Limbo's encountered Naruto and got sealed
Madara's Limbo's Encountered Sasuke's Rinnesharigan and his Limbo's could be seen clear as day
Madara ain't bulletproof like you so seem to make him out to be lols