Naruto without the Nine-Tails

[Darth AniCetuS]

When Naruto was knocked out cold in the rain, Sasuke could have stabbed him to death, or suffocated him.

Just because Naruto refused to fight seriously doesn't mean hes "holding back". He fought his hardest and still lost, and even got aid from the Nine-Tails and still he lost.

Pretty pathetic.

Gamabunta rapes Sasuke. Naruto didn't summon him. And its true people are saying Naruto can't summon Bunta without kyubi chakra but that's only because he didn't have good chakra control again because of kyubi. Something which he improved with training by part 2. So even without kyubi he should be able to summon Gamabunta.
And talking of aid from the Nine tails then Sasuke too had curse mark. But ofc you'd forget that.

 

[SeveN797]

Tbh, what makes people think Gamabunta would listen to Naruto ordering him to kill some kid he never met before?

Suddenly, everyone forgot about this ?

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Gamabunta was never Naruto's summon in p1, but Jiraya's. Just because Naruto could summon him, doesn't mean he would listen to him. He was angry at Naruto whenever he was being summoned by him.

Actually it was Gamabunta who was Naruto's boss that time :lol

 

[Tyris]

How would he have fared against Sasuke at the Valley Of The End, in part one?

Sasuke in this scenario has no curse-mark.

And Naruto has no access to any Nine-Tails chakra at all.


In my opinion, I found him lacking at the beginning of the fight when he wasn't using Nine-Tails chakra, all of his attacks were read through and countered by Sasuke and his only chance at winning was through Rasengan or Shadow-clone spam. Despite the fact that he initiated the fight, he had to tap into a foreign source twice in order to come close to winning.

And don't say Naruto was "holding back", if his only way to bring Sasuke back was through using so much power that he would end up killing Sasuke, then he's not really all that strong on his own merit is he?

chidori blitz ended his ninja carreer inb4 kyuubi healing factor..

no fox= no fux kurama makes his character interesting.. and for the fangirls spewing gamabunta drivel fail to realize he can't be summoned without kyuubi chakra.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

...here comes the Sausage faps crying about Kurama lol while conveniently forgetting Sausage would be blind fodder without Itachi's eyes.

 

[Hakke]

am I the only one who doesn't have problem with Naruto using Kurama and Sasuke using his sharingan and the Hyugas using their Byakugan and Shinobis using kekkei genkais , I mean they are Ninjas , there is no such a thing in there world called a "fair fight"

 

[King Of Pop]

And am guessing sasuke has awakened his 3t here? the answer is pretty simple. in cqc 3t sasuke was laying the smackdown on kno naruto who wasnt able to touch him at all. meaning base naruto would have been spanked horribly in taijutsu. the gap between kno and base is so huge that clones wont make any difference and worst comes to worst, a katon kills all of them as per canon. clone feints to land rasengan wont work as the clones would get killed, chidori matches the rasengan then when they get to cqc, naruto dies.

its worth nothing sasuke physical capabilities at vote were pretty strong as he was tanking hits from kno naruto and a kick from him floored kno who was not able to stand up. so superior strength, superior skill, superior speed in addition to being able to read narutos taijutsu with sharingan and tools to get rid of his clones etc.

he cant summon bunta with kuramas chakra as pointed out so that cant be used as an argument

 

[Detonator99]

Naruto solos him in vote1 and whats even funny is that naruto never really showed to spam any multi shadow clone in vote 1 and 2 witch is a perfect wrecking since it would have ended overwhelming sasuke whose feat of manhandling a small hordes of shadow clone is only in fillers :lol.

 

[UnknownJin]

Naruto without kyuubi - fodder

 

[UnknownJin]

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Nice joke

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[whiteboy2345]

And talking of aid from the Nine tails then Sasuke too had curse mark. But ofc you'd forget that.

I specifically stated that Sasuke wouldn't have the curse-mark in this scenario so there would be no need for the Kyuubi in this fight, which is why I restricted the Kyuubi.

The question is, how would base Naruto fare against Sasuke with three tomoes in his Sharingan but with no curse-mark.

here comes the Sausage faps crying about Kurama lol while conveniently forgetting Sausage would be blind fodder without Itachi's eyes

And what would Naruto be without the Kyuubi again? You know..a borrowed power that has nothing to do with inherited genes?

 

[UnknownJin]

Naruto would've summoned Gamakichi or Gamatatsu if he didn't use Kurama's chakra. The only way he could summon Gamabunta was by using Kurama's chakra. And then Sasuke would've solo'd him.

Nice girl in sig.

OT- Genin Fodderuto cant summon Gamabunta without Kyuubi's help - While at it... he cant do a shit without a kyuubi

 

[PureSkillz]

How would he have fared against Sasuke at the Valley Of The End, in part one?

Sasuke in this scenario has no curse-mark.

And Naruto has no access to any Nine-Tails chakra at all.


In my opinion, I found him lacking at the beginning of the fight when he wasn't using Nine-Tails chakra, all of his attacks were read through and countered by Sasuke and his only chance at winning was through Rasengan or Shadow-clone spam. Despite the fact that he initiated the fight, he had to tap into a foreign source twice in order to come close to winning.

And don't say Naruto was "holding back", if his only way to bring Sasuke back was through using so much power that he would end up killing Sasuke, then he's not really all that strong on his own merit is he?

If Sasuke doesn't get the mind awakening CS pill or whatever this is the hospital fight again and Naruto wins
through sheer clone spam/rasengan being > chidori at the time

The pill kinda makes it unfair cause it boosted Sasuke to the point where he could manhandle base Naruto, as well as boosted his CS, if not contributed to his sharingan getting 3t mid fight

 

[NarutoX28]

...here comes the Sausage faps crying about Kurama lol while conveniently forgetting Sausage would be blind fodder without Itachi's eyes.

No offense, but the repetitious retorts are impertinent to the discussion. Sasuke being blind fodder without Itachi's eyes has no bearing on this thread and I'm baffled as to why you'd even mention it in the first place.

 

[Calpal]

i feel like naruto takes this of he summons gama instant

 

[To Whatever]

Gamabunta

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

No offense, but the repetitious retorts are impertinent to the discussion. Sasuke being blind fodder without Itachi's eyes has no bearing on this thread and I'm baffled as to why you'd even mention it in the first place.

You should've read the posts before mine. Funny how you missed them and chose to quote me instead.

 

[NarutoX28]

You should've read the posts before mine. Funny how you missed them and chose to quote me instead.

I did and it certainly doesn't do you any justice to mention Sasuke's dependence on Itachi's eyes because that's well outside the scope of this thread.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I did and it certainly doesn't do you any justice to mention Sasuke's dependence on Itachi's eyes because that's well outside the scope of this thread.

And yet you chose to quote only me when someone else started it.

 

[NarutoX28]

And yet you chose to quote only me when someone else started it.

About what? Naruto being overly reliant on Kurama's chakra and lost even with it at VoTE? How does that in any way convince you that it was necessary to elucidate Sasuke's dependency on Itachi's eyes? It doesn't, you arbitrarily threw around the same mundane, copy and pasted retort and expected it to get you somewhere.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

About what? Naruto being overly reliant on Kurama's chakra and lost even with it at VoTE? How does that in any way convince you that it was necessary to elucidate Sasuke's dependency on Itachi's eyes?

This thread is about Naruto without the nine tails... so there's no point bringing that up in an insulting manner and since you're so concerned about thread going off topic you should've started there.

It doesn't, you arbitrarily threw around the same mundane, copy and pasted retort and expected it to get you somewhere.

Yep, I was expecting a sausage faps response...