Naruto without Kurama at current point of the manga would be top 10

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I would like to talk and prove to you that Current Naruto even after loosing Kurama where the manga stands now could be top 10.

Misconception:

The most people consider Sage mode Naruto or Base Naruto when Kurama is excluded and it could work if we talk about Naruto, WHO NEVER HAD Kurama in himself before or if Naruto lost Kurama at earlier point of the manga.

Correction:

However we are talking about Current Naruto at the point of 652 chapter of the Naruto Manga, so even if he lost Kurama now, He would still have Nine tails chakra mode !

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^^ The only problem Naruto had before while using Nine tails chakra mode could be fighting with Kyuubi(who is unfriendly).

Considering that now Naruto and Kurama are friends and partners and when he could get Kurama removed from his body, then Naruto could still USE NINE TAILS CHAKRA MODE WITHOUT RISK !

I know some of you you will say that Nine tails chakra mode Naruto is still not so strong... maybe true

But considering that there is not manga scans showing FRESH NARUTO using NINE TAILS CHAKRA MODE AFTER BEING FRIEND with Kurama then it is hard to judge.

and since this moment:

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There is possibility that Naruto can combine also lesser version of tailed beast mode(Nine tails chakra mode) with Sage mode... and there is nothing denying this possibility in the manga.

Considering that KCSM/Nine tails sage chakra mode/Sage Nine tails chakra mode Naruto could be possible then it could give him all feasts of Nine tails chakra mode and adding Sage mode could make him in top 10.

KCSM Naruto could surprass Minato, Itachi, Tobirama, DSM Kabuto and match Nagato being around him but of course loose to Current Sasuke

so it would be:

TOP 10
1. Current Obito
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Sasuke
5. Nagato/KCSM Naruto
6. KCSM Naruto/Nagato
7. DSM Kabuto
8. Minato
9. Itachi
10. Tobirama

Thanks for reading !

Now, there is some problems and I would like to know your opinions about them

Could Nine tails chakra took by Naruto to enter Nine tails chakra mode be able to recover ? (Even without Kurama itself pressence) ?

Could it be possible to combine Nine tails chakra mode and Sage mode ?

Could Hypothetical Edo Naruto be able to enter KCSM or KCM at least ?

Please share your thoughts

EDIT: for extra my thoughts:

Current SM Naruto without Kurama would be top 20 and just maybe top 15
Current KCM Naruto without Kurama would be top 15 with very small chance to barerly get into top 10
Current KCSM Naruto without Kurama would be top 10 with possibility of getting into top 5 on Fifth place together with Nagato.

 

[Donald J Trump]

I like that you say he would loose to Sasuke but what makes you think that?

 

[sagemode07]

Nah. I even without KCM he is top ten in my Book.

Infinite Sage Mode - Elder toads - Toad Summonings - Toad Song - Rasenshuriken Spam - Rasengan Variants - Shadow Clones.

 

[KCMNaruto]

I like that you say he would loose to Sasuke but what makes you think that?

simply Perfect Sussano is too much for just Nine tails chakra mode to handle...

Even KCM combined with Sage mode would be not enough... however the gap could be very small....

But, Current Naruto with Kurama >= Sasuke, basing on manga feasts

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Still below #Fodder 38642

Edit: Your top 10 list has 6 ninjas, genius.​

 

[Guntah]

True, true and true

Plus rep for you.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Still below #Fodder 38642

Edit: Your top 10 list has 6 ninjas, genius.​

ok, whatever let you sleep at night

also fixed

 

[damon hunt]

lol its very simple really i don't see why everyone complicated without kurama naruto wouldnt have even survived this long so we wouldn't get to see his abilities

 

[Lightning Release]

He's top 5 with sage mode alone.

 

[KCMNaruto]

lol its very simple really i don't see why everyone complicated without kurama naruto wouldnt have even survived this long so we wouldn't get to see his abilities

Lol, read the my first post genius. I AM TALKING OF CURRENT NARUTO(652 chapter) IF HE LOST KURAMA IN NEXT CHAPTER FOR EXAMPLE

I DON'T CARE ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF NARUTO SURVIVING ENOUGH LONG for that. This is NOT NARUTO WITHOUT KURAMA SINCE HIS BIRTH or NARUTO LOOSING KURAMA AT EARILER POINT OF THE MANGA.

learn to read and comprehend what I stated then come back

 

[Awkward Linguist]

lol its very simple really i don't see why everyone complicated without kurama naruto wouldnt have even survived this long so we wouldn't get to see his abilities

Dat sig...

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[Osagyefo]

Could Nine tails chakra took by Naruto to enter Nine tails chakra mode be able to recover ? (Even without Kurama itself pressence) ?

Nah I don't think so. As far as I know, the chakra quantity was limited, and Naruto ran out. He needed a rest out in order to replenish the chakra, and it might be due to the presence of Kurama.

But it also could be that it is dependent off Kurama's presence too, and he'll be able to recover

Could it be possible to combine Nine tails chakra mode and Sage mode ?

Yes, it could be possible

Could Hypothetical Edo Naruto be able to enter KCSM or KCM at least ?

Yes, seeing as Edo Minato could do it without any difficulty.

 

[Osagyefo]

He's top 5 with sage mode alone.

Nah, he'll lose to EMS Sasuke, Minato, DSM Kabuto, Tobirama...... Muu is debatable though

 

[KCMNaruto]

Nah, he'll lose to EMS Sasuke, Minato, DSM Kabuto, Tobirama...... Muu is debatable though

Yeah just Sage mode Naruto could loose to them...

But Sage nine tails chakra mode/KCSM Naruto can beat everyone of them except EMS Sasuke.... and he could be arguably in top 5

 

[Narutoga]

Naruto SM took on 3rd raikage , he is top ten or top 15 at least

 

[OWanime]

I think it's possible but he wouldn't be able to create a kurama body which is very advantageous xd it depends but he's at least top 15

 

[Osagyefo]

Yeah just Sage mode Naruto could loose to them...

But Sage nine tails chakra mode/KCSM Naruto can beat everyone of them except EMS Sasuke.... and he could be arguably in top 5

Yes, I agree and beating EMS Sausage will be extremely high diff.

 

[-Spoiler-]

lol its very simple really i don't see why everyone complicated without kurama naruto wouldnt have even survived this long so we wouldn't get to see his abilities

why wouldnt he survived this long? he learn rasengan without kurama help, he learned rasenshuriken without kurama's help he learned sage mode without kurama's help. he beat kurama and took most of his chakra. so please tell me why naruto wouldnt have made it this far?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Yes, I agree and beating EMS Sausage will be extremely high diff.[/FONT]

nice and against EMS Sasuke it could go either way with extremely high diff as you stated

 

[xxSAGExx]

Hello guys, I would like to talk and prove to you that Current Naruto even after loosing Kurama where the manga stands now could be top 10.

Misconception:

The most people consider Sage mode Naruto or Base Naruto when Kurama is excluded and it could work if we talk about Naruto, WHO NEVER HAD Kurama in himself before or if Naruto lost Kurama at earlier point of the manga.

Correction:

However we are talking about Current Naruto at the point of 652 chapter of the Naruto Manga, so even if he lost Kurama now, He would still have Nine tails chakra mode !

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^^ The only problem Naruto had before while using Nine tails chakra mode could be fighting with Kyuubi(who is unfriendly).

Considering that now Naruto and Kurama are friends and partners and when he could get Kurama removed from his body, then Naruto could still USE NINE TAILS CHAKRA MODE WITHOUT RISK !

I know some of you you will say that Nine tails chakra mode Naruto is still not so strong... maybe true

But considering that there is not manga scans showing FRESH NARUTO using NINE TAILS CHAKRA MODE AFTER BEING FRIEND with Kurama then it is hard to judge.

and since this moment:

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There is possibility that Naruto can combine also lesser version of tailed beast mode(Nine tails chakra mode) with Sage mode... and there is nothing denying this possibility in the manga.

Considering that KCSM/Nine tails sage chakra mode/Sage Nine tails chakra mode Naruto could be possible then it could give him all feasts of Nine tails chakra mode and adding Sage mode could make him in top 10.

KCSM Naruto could surprass Minato, Itachi, Tobirama, DSM Kabuto and match Nagato being around him but of course loose to Current Sasuke

so it would be:

TOP 10
1. Current Obito
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Sasuke
5. Nagato/KCSM Naruto
6. KCSM Naruto/Nagato
7. DSM Kabuto
8. Minato
9. Itachi
10. Tobirama

Thanks for reading !

Now, there is some problems and I would like to know your opinions about them

Could Nine tails chakra took by Naruto to enter Nine tails chakra mode be able to recover ? (Even without Kurama itself pressence) ?

Could it be possible to combine Nine tails chakra mode and Sage mode ?

Could Hypothetical Edo Naruto be able to enter KCSM or KCM at least ?

Please share your thoughts

EDIT: for extra my thoughts:

Current SM Naruto without Kurama would be top 20 and just maybe top 15
Current KCM Naruto without Kurama would be top 15 with very small chance to barerly get into top 10
Current KCSM Naruto without Kurama would be top 10 with possibility of getting into top 5 on Fifth place together with Nagato.

First off, Tobirama is on the same level as Madara and Hashirama so he's above Sasuke. Second, it's true that Naruto would still have KM since Bee said that's his power forever (sectioned off from Kurama) so he can combine it with SM. He simply did not know he could before Kurama told him he might be able to. KM= to Version 1 9 tails cloak mode while BM is equal to version 2 9 tails cloak mode. Naruto who was in intense training with no rest enter war and split his chakra evenly amongst 12 clones while means each clone had 1/13th Naruto's power at that time. 1 KM clone beat Muu and 3rd Raikage with minimal help, had more help against 3rd raikage by that rubber guy so he didn't poof.

Naruto only made 12 clones to fight on all battle fields while keeping in mine Kurama was taking his chakra. We also have to factor in that Naruto hasn't mastered his body flicker speed yet and only used it 3x so far but in BSM he was starting to sense Juubito and he was new to that power so KSM sensory would be strong as well, he either would get the hang of it during battle or needs to train and fully master his powers so he can use his speed.

We never seen KM Naruto at full power fight, we did see him use mini rasenshuriken, that Oodama rasengan where his chakra arms pull you and smashes to into the Oodama rasengan, That Oodama rasengan that has 2 other rasengans around it which he used on Muu, Mini tbb that he used as a rasengan but it went thru Obito. KM Naruto would still need training but he's pretty much where KSM is. KSM is KM with double the chakra, increased speed, strength, recovery rate, durability, agility, and sensory. Plus he can fuse with Ma and Pa toad for frog song so he would still be above Sasuke. It's also possible that KSM could break Susanoo, KM Naruto smashed boulders just by trying to hold it, SM 1 hits a Pain body which is kage level, add that together and it's stronger than Tsunade's strength.