Naruto vs Tsukuyomi!

[Seventh Sama]

"Careful if your hit with Amaterasu and tsukuyomi it's over"

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Naruto wasn't aware that perfect jins can break genjutsu. unless you can provide mangaphacts that killer bee told him about the genjutsu immunity that perfect jins have.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Tsukuyomi is Tsukuyomi regardless of mastery. Bee prooved that perfect jins >>> Tsukuyomi.

Sasuke never had tsukyomi @_@

 

[Rustling Gorilla]

Tsukuyomi is Tsukuyomi regardless of mastery. Bee prooved that perfect jins >>> Tsukuyomi.

Sasuke doesn't have the ability 'Tsukuyomi' just like Itachi doesn't have the ability 'Kagatsuchi'

I'm sorry but Naruto gets soloed by tsukuyomi no matter how much it hurts you

 

[Cfighter]

I agree with everything but a few key points are off, sasuke doesn't have tsukyomi his version is simply sharnningan genjutsu which is different from tsukyomi. The only MS techs sasuke has are Enton, ameterasu, and susano. And yeah only an uchiha can break it but keep in mind that rinnegan users are immune to visual genjutsu so tsukyomi would be useless against someone like nagato.

Rinnegan I knew, just didn't feel the need to include. But thanks for clarifying Sasuke's genjutsu, I must have confused it with something else.

Tsukuyomi is Tsukuyomi regardless of mastery. Bee prooved that perfect jins >>> Tsukuyomi. Simple fact when fighting a jin its never 1vs1, its always 2vs1. However long itachi keeps Naruto in gen, Kurama would have dealt with itachi either by killing him or releasing Naruto.

As the user above corrected me on, Sasuke apparently never used Tsukuyomi but instead a Sharingan genjutsu. The fact still remains, no one trapped by Itachi's Tsukuyomi is breaking out unless you're an Uchiha that posses a Sharingan.

 

[Styles]

1 second in NU is 3 days in tysukuyomi realm how is he breaking free from that?

 

[Michael]

That's not what I'm saying at all. What happens after Tsukuyomi is very debateable. What is certain is that Naruto isn't breaking it.

Yes, thats basically what you people are saying by stating "tsukuyomi is instant", the casting may be instant but the events that occur within the illusion isn't.

 

[Rustling Gorilla]

Yes, thats basically what you people are saying by stating "tsukuyomi is instant", the casting may be instant but the events that occur within the illusion isn't.

72hours in tsukuyomi is 1 second in the real world

 

[Trúth]

Yes, thats basically what you people are saying by stating "tsukuyomi is instant", the casting may be instant but the events that occur within the illusion isn't.

The genjutsu is instantaneous real time. The illusions the victim suffers last as long as the user wants. I don't know how to make this any clearer.

 

[Michael]

Sasuke doesn't have the ability 'Tsukuyomi' just like Itachi doesn't have the ability 'Kagatsuchi'

I'm sorry but Naruto gets soloed by tsukuyomi no matter how much it hurts you

Wether he has it or not idc, my thread still stands. Naruto >>> Tsukuyomi.

 

[Rustling Gorilla]

Wether he has it or not idc, my thread still stands. Naruto >>> Tsukuyomi.

Do you enjoy blatantly ignoring manga facts?

 

[Gerkak]

Yes, thats basically what you people are saying by stating "tsukuyomi is instant", the casting may be instant but the events that occur within the illusion isn't.

When tsukuyomi is cast the mind of the victim is taken to an illusionary universe where they experience time differently from what is occuring in the physical world. In the world of tsukuyomi, itachi can control time, he can make the victim perceive the world for days or perhaps(though I have no evidence to support this) even weeks, months, years etc.

While all this is happening in the physical world only a single moment may have passed by. This is the defining trait of tsukuyomi, the ability to control time within an illusion.

Naruto stands no chance against not only tsukuyomi but against demonic illusion:toad confrontation chant and the impressive KA

 

[Rustling Gorilla]

When tsukuyomi is cast the mind of the victim is taken to an illusionary universe where they experience time differently from what is occuring in the physical world. In the world of tsukuyomi, itachi can control time, he can make the victim perceive the world for days or perhaps(though I have no evidence to support this) even weeks, months, years etc.

While all this is happening in the physical world only a single moment may have passed by. This is the defining trait of tsukuyomi, the ability to control time within an illusion.

Naruto stands no chance against not only tsukuyomi but against demonic illusion:toad confrontation chant and the impressive KA

Keep in mind Itachi wasn't trying to kill Kakashi with it so its probably way more OP then what was shown

 

[Cfighter]

Yes, thats basically what you people are saying by stating "tsukuyomi is instant", the casting may be instant but the events that occur within the illusion isn't.

The genjutsu is instantaneous real time. The illusions the victim suffers last as long as the user wants. I don't know how to make this any clearer.

Let me try. Its like when you go to sleep at night and you have a dream. In your dream, time may go very slow, or very fast. People have different dreams, but lets assume this dream happens very fast. You go to sleep at midnight. Your dream, lets say lasts [in the dreams time] about 5 minutes. You wake up. Its not 3 am.

Same principle, just you know, the other way around.

1. Itachi traps you in Tsuuyomi [the casting is instant].
2. Your mind is trapped in this illusionary world. Like a dream, only one that you cannot voluntarily escape.
3. In the real world, time continues normally, with your now unconscious body at the mercy of Itachi. But why would he kill you when he can torture you.
4. Itachi [in the dream world] is able to manipulate space and time, so that, even though time is elapsing differently in the real world, much like a dream would be, the illusionary world's time moves differently, at Itachi's discretion. Itachi can make 1 minute of real time 1 year in the illusionary world. He has complete flexibility.

 

[Gerkak]

Keep in mind Itachi wasn't trying to kill Kakashi with it so its probably way more OP then what was shown

True we have no idea of the limits of tsukuyomi

 

[Michael]

When tsukuyomi is cast the mind of the victim is taken to an illusionary universe where they experience time differently from what is occuring in the physical world. In the world of tsukuyomi, itachi can control time, he can make the victim perceive the world for days or perhaps(though I have no evidence to support this) even weeks, months, years etc.

While all this is happening in the physical world only a single moment may have passed by. This is the defining trait of tsukuyomi, the ability to control time within an illusion.

Naruto stands no chance against not only tsukuyomi but against demonic illusion:toad confrontation chant and the impressive KA

Regardless Tsukuyomi still requires time to complete, against someone like Naruto i assume it'd take alot longer for his will to break. Timing is indeed crucial but the longer it takes the more chakra itachi depletes, kurama would definitely wreck a fatigued/aids itachi. You people obviously don't understand how haxxed Naruto is now he can completely separate himself from kurama and fight as two.

 

[V h o]

Tsukuyomi isn't instant, itachi still communicates with his victims in gen which against a Perfect Jin is basically like shouting "Hey your under my gen, break out". It may be fast but its not instant, 3 secs in NV = Life Changer. Just ask Nagato(Pain), he thought 5 secs was enough to save him from Naruto

Yeah it is

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. That is the damage done (3 days of torture) comes instantly.

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, so that's why he can talk or do whatever for a duration and it will still be instant in the real world.

 

[Rustling Gorilla]

Regardless Tsukuyomi still requires time to complete, against someone like Naruto i assume it'd take alot longer for his will to break. Timing is indeed crucial but the longer it takes the more chakra itachi depletes, kurama would definitely wreck a fatigued/aids itachi. You people obviously don't understand how haxxed Naruto is now he can completely separate himself from kurama and fight as two.

If by time you mean 1 second then yes. Tsukuyomi depletes the same amount of chakra regardles Naruto's brain would still get soloed
@bold even if that fanfic were true 3 tome is all that is needed to tame the 9 tails

 

[Michael]

Yeah it is

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. That is the damage done (3 days of torture) comes instantly.

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Also

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, so that's why he can talk or do whatever for a duration and it will still be instant in the real world.

Show me the Viz scan of this page and i'll believe you.

 

[V h o]

Show me the Viz scan of this page and i'll believe you.

That's your problem, not mine. I provided my evidence.

 

[Michael]

If by time you mean 1 second then yes. Tsukuyomi depletes the same amount of chakra regardles Naruto's brain would still get soloed
@bold even if that fanfic were true 3 tome is all that is needed to tame the 9 tails

Fanfic? This is one of Naruto new abilities in the last. You can't tame something thats already tamed, just ask madara. You people are also assuming Naruto doesn't just start in KCSM with eyes closed and wreck itachi, don't speak as if itachi is superior. I was simply humoring his fans.