Naruto Vs Sasuke (without fox or sharigan)

[PuddingStyleSpuddington]

Ummm a lot of you are talking about Sasuke's speed but wasn't he given drugs? so why are we letting him keep it?
The speed he gained after training with Kakashi is all good though imo.

 

[1nF3RnOZz]

i think sasuke because he is more skilled and if he use kirin naruto is dead because he is`t that fast to dodge kirin. if 1000 clones of naruto atack sasuke then sasuke makes nagashi chidori and the clones are destroyed

 

[~Annihilator~]

Sasuke is fast unlike Naruto...I don't think Naruto can catch up with Sasuke's speed. So...I say Sasuke wins. Besides, even without his cursed mode or somethin' like that, he's still strong. And the sharingan I guess...

 

[xMadaraSenjux]

Naruto

 

[TJ0001]

its just naruto and sasuke in a fist fight. sasuke cant do anything without sharingan and never could. naruto cant do anything without his fox and never could. they would just end up fighting until theyre both too tired to fight

 

[TJ0001]

as for the speed thing. sasuke could not have attained that speed without the sharingan. he meerely copied lees moves remember?. so in this case sasukes and naruto might as well be going at the same speed

 

[Gregsta]

This is stupid... Take away Sasuke's curse mark and Naruto's sage mode and we are back at "The Valley of the End" battle. Except this time naruto has some more sense about how he uses his shadow clones AND can make a rasen-shurikan, while Sasuke can use a full body chidori. However I don't think Sasuke is fast enough to dodge the huge radius of the rasen-shurikan without his sharingan and curse mark. (although Naruto does not have sage mode so he might only be able to use about 1 rasen-shurikan and a few gangs of clones meaning HE MUST GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST SHOT!!!). Considering all of these things, I think it would be a close fight where both of them run out of chakra and it will come down to physical attacks and willpower like the battle we saw when Naruto and Gara fought during the Konoha invasion.

 

[vandell]

Naruto would beat Sasuke if sasuke couldn't use his Sharingan, naruto could easily beat anyone if learn the Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Singing genjutsu. That would make him unstoppable with his two thousand clone jutsu, no way you're going to kill all the clones before the the genjutsu is over;dodging Rasengan and everything else he can do. Jiraiya could have beat all six pains with the genjutsu if they all would have been presence. Jiraiya said that genjutsu was not for naruto because he didn't think that naruto was smart enough; not because can't do it, heck he learn the Shadow Clone Technique at about ten; which is a b rank technique for jōnin or chūnin level ninjas.

 

[cryhwks]

Naruto without question. Naruto without the Kyuubi's help mastered Rasengan, & FRS & Naruto would be able to fight freely without worrying that the Kyuubi might break out of him. & people say Sasuke is smarter then Naruto but in battle maybe only Shikimaru is more clutch then Naruto.

Sasuke would be useless without the Sharingan. Sasuke would be like a young Kakashi before he got Obito's Sharingan meaning that Chidori would be useless like Kakashi's was before he got the Sharingan. Sasuke would still be able to use Fire style Jutsu's but his speed & Taijustu's skills he got from Lee would be gone he wouldn't have got the Curse Seal in the 1st place because the only reason why Orochimaru wanted him was because of the Sharingan. Meaning that all of the Justu's Oro taught him & all the upgrade's Kabuto did to Sasuke's body wouldn't have happened & he would not have any of his MS powers.

 

[ProdigyRokuX]

im not sure if anyone said this yet but naruto would win because if he didnt have the fox, the fox probably never attacked meaning minato and kushina are still alive. they train naruto and he becomes way sronger to start off with. sasuke cant read his movements or copy any jutsu. sasuke might not be able to take on all of narutos clones etc etc

 

[Shawnd]

This is stupid... Take away Sasuke's curse mark and Naruto's sage mode and we are back at "The Valley of the End" battle. Except this time naruto has some more sense about how he uses his shadow clones AND can make a rasen-shurikan, while Sasuke can use a full body chidori. However I don't think Sasuke is fast enough to dodge the huge radius of the rasen-shurikan without his sharingan and curse mark. (although Naruto does not have sage mode so he might only be able to use about 1 rasen-shurikan and a few gangs of clones meaning HE MUST GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST SHOT!!!). Considering all of these things, I think it would be a close fight where both of them run out of chakra and it will come down to physical attacks and willpower like the battle we saw when Naruto and Gara fought during the Konoha invasion.

your forgettin sasuke also has fire elment.. which is why kakashi warned him when teachin it to me.. to be caustios because naruto's wind elments r useless agaisnt sasuke bcuz it will only power up his fire element

 

[Honord Sage]

All of Sasuke victories in the past have involve His Sharigan, including His lost to Lee, by denying Sasuke His Sharigan you make Him into just a plain fighter, His so call genius comes from using His Sharigan to read an opponent move and come up with a counter move.

 

[HatakeKaKashi1]

naruto wins????he doesn't depend on nine tails as much as sasuke depends on sharingan so he wins!

 

[captainEO]

This fight isn't really fair. You can't take away Sasuke's kekkei genkei, that's like taking away Naruto's large chakra reserves (which would then have made his rasenshuriken and sage mode training impossible, he also wouldn't be able to use multi shadow clone jutsu).

It's ridiculous to take his Sharingan away because he's spent the last 3-4 years adapting his training to work with it and improve on it. If he didn't have his Sharingan, he then would have spent these last 3-4 years working on something else worthwhile.

Anyway Sasuke was always the better student/ninja anyway - he was top of his class (without the sharingan).
He is a genius, Sharingan or not.
Genius = kakashi, orochimaru, itachi...
Sasuke would still have learned the chidori in an impressive time because of his greater aptitude
Sasuke would be > Naruto

Orochimaru doesn't have Kekkei Genkei and yet he still kicks ass, Kakashi would still be kick ass even without his sharingan. Why? Because he became a jounin at like 13 and he's the son of the White Fang
Uchiha > all, they were introduced as the best, they are the best

 

[darous]

Without the Sharigan Sasuke gets ddestroyed the Valley of the End Sasuke only got him because his sharingan matured. He can't tell Naruto from a clone and 1,000 rasengan is hard to beat. I don't think Sasuke stands a chance his sharingan is his Nindo

i agree with that..

 

[HokageKid]

I would say sasuke because he can use Kirin without sharingan but naruto can't use rasen shuriken without sage mode

 

[HatakeKaKashi1]

This fight isn't really fair. You can't take away Sasuke's kekkei genkei, that's like taking away Naruto's large chakra reserves (which would then have made his rasenshuriken and sage mode training impossible, he also wouldn't be able to use multi shadow clone jutsu).

It's ridiculous to take his Sharingan away because he's spent the last 3-4 years adapting his training to work with it and improve on it. If he didn't have his Sharingan, he then would have spent these last 3-4 years working on something else worthwhile.

Anyway Sasuke was always the better student/ninja anyway - he was top of his class (without the sharingan).
He is a genius, Sharingan or not.
Genius = kakashi, orochimaru, itachi...
Sasuke would still have learned the chidori in an impressive time because of his greater aptitude
Sasuke would be > Naruto

Orochimaru doesn't have Kekkei Genkei and yet he still kicks ass, Kakashi would still be kick ass even without his sharingan. Why? Because he became a jounin at like 13 and he's the son of the White Fang
Uchiha > all, they were introduced as the best, they are the best

hello kakashi can make multiple shadow clone....he is not an uzumaki!!!!

 

[HokageKid]

hello kakashi can make multiple shadow clone....he is not an uzumaki!!!!

Yeah that was a flaw on kishi's part, in shippuden he explains that kakashi has very little chakra reserves, and that he can only make 2-3 shadow clones, which is why he doesn't overruse them like naruto, although after his fight against zabuza the mob of people come to attack and kakashi after exhausting most of his chakra kishi shows him create like 70 shadow clones in order to make him look badass. tsk tsk kishi

 

[nagato2]

I would say sasuke because he can use Kirin without sharingan but naruto can't use rasen shuriken without sage mode

where did you get that idea

 

[HokageKid]

where did you get that idea

well sasuke created kirin, its his own jutsu just like kakashi's so he didn't copy it so he doesn't need the sharingan to use it although naruto cant use the rasen shuriken without sage mode because all he acomplishes is that imperfected rasenshuriken which he cannot throw, and when he uses it he gets caught in the attack and damages his chakra pours