Sasuke absorbed their chakra because he was stalemating with Naruto and couldn't kill him so he attempted to draw a large amount of the Biju's chakra to force his death which didn't work,
Yes, you are right. I agree.
it's also questionable whether Sasuke drew in their chakra because he didn't have the chakra to produce Indra's arrow or that he drew it in to empower the jutsu where he thought Naruto couldn't survive which would of been the case if he didn't have Kurama gather NE.
Firstly, it's not manifest that Sasuke drew in the bijuus chakra to use Indra's Arrow ONLY. He might have more jutsus up his sleeves which he could have utilized the bijuus chakra for. But since he lost possession of the chakra after using Indra's Arrow, he might not be able to use it for other jutsus.
And since he used Indra's Arrow ONLY after attaining the bijuus' chakra, we'll talk about just that.
Secondly, what you said isn't at all questionable. Sasuke's chakra is almost as powerful as the bijuus considering that he's of the Uchiha bloodline (a clan famed for powerful chakra), an Indra's transmigrant (powerful chakra even among the Uchihas i.e. powerful chakra within powerful chakra) and inheritor of the Sage's powerful chakra. There isn't possibly anything the bijuus' chakra can do to empower the jutsu. It's obvious that he used the bijuus' chakra because he didn't have sufficient supplies of his own chakra required to produce Indra's Arrow.
Sasuke could of easily used Indra's arrow without the Biju's chakra show me a scan where the absolute requirement is the Biju's chakra?.
No, Sasuke couldn't have easily used Indra's Arrow without bijuus' chakra. He could, but he didn't have enough chakra at that time. He needed more chakra that was powerful enough (like his own chakra) as substitute to produce it, so he sought the bijuus as the perfect target. If he had enough chakra of his own, he wouldn't have needed the bijuus chakra to produce Indra's Arrow. Though he could have acquired it for other purposes if he wished.
Bijuus' chakra isn't an absolute requirement for Indra's Arrow. They were only the requirement of the time like I've explained.
Work on your own reading comprehension, I said Ssauke needed the Biju's Chakra I never stated he absorbed it into himself.
Are you really that stupid? I thought you were one of the more sensible and understanding Naruto fans who could comprehend things properly after explanation. But sorry, my bad...
I never said your reading comprehension is bad because of that. Your comprehension skills suck for your overall perception of the battle because you said that Naruto could have easily defeated Sasuke, mid difficulty, if Sasuke didn't have the bijuus. I provided an entire explanation to counter THIS statement that you made. And I also said you needed better comprehension for THIS statement, not for this stupid reason that I thought you said "Sasuke did not absorb the chakra within himself". Please work on your comprehension, especially now after what you've written.
Thanks Captain Obvious but I'm well aware the difference they were trying to make known but that's nothing more then them making excuses for what is stated in the manga as a fact. He lost get over it. a victory of morality is still that it's strange how this fact is argued so much they should get over it and move on.
Captain Obvious? Firstly, I wasn't replying to you. This post was meant for the other guy. So, nobody gives two flying f***s if you are well aware of the difference. And even if you are well aware of the difference, a lot of other Naruto fanboys are completely negligent in this regard. So there is no point of "captain obvious" here.
Secondly, I never said that Naruto wasn't victorious. Refer to this post of mine on another thread.
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Naruto doesn't need to force their participation because he already has it, unlike Sasuke like all Uchiha force it from all TB.
This answer of yours perfectly demonstrates your miserable comprehension. I was trying to show Sasuke's level of power through that example (trapping all 9 bijuus simultaneously using CT). And asked for Naruto fans to give an example of Naruto's power with an equal caliber to that. Instead, due to lack of understanding, here is your wretched attempt of providing an answer, which I'm well aware of and didn't ask.
Yeah, plot armor for Naruto. So wasn't it the same for Sasuke? You yourself proved that you provided a pathetic excuse (attack on Sasuke) in Naruto's defense.
Naruto and Kurama have been a part of each others life since he was born, these attempts at degrading Naruto while using him are just pathetic. Should I say Sasuke would be nothing if not for his brother training him and giving him a reason to become stronger or He would of gone blind not for the operation that implanted his brothers eyes into him after Itachi's death? Or Sasuke would of died vs Bee not for the intervention of his Team that the majority of the time he never cared for even once attacking Karin because she got in the way of killing Danzo?
@bold Should I say Naruto would be nothing if Sasuke didn't provide him a reason and inspired him to get stronger? Should I say Naruto wouldn't have even learned Rasenshuriken if it weren't for Kakashi and Yamato's training? (Sasuke learned Kirin on his own) Should I say Naruto would have gotten nowhere had it not been for Jiraiya's training? (You could say the same about Sasuke and Orochimaru but since Sasuke possesses none of Orochimaru's powers now, it can be ruled out of the equation). Should I say Naruto wouldn't have become a Sage if it weren't for Fukasaku's training? So he wouldn't be able to do even basic sensory stuff? So can you imagine how pathetic Naruto would be if I throw the same argument you gave me, back at you?
BTW, you didn't clear out Kurama's credit by this excuse. What you said about Sasuke can be said about Naruto without even considering Kurama. So it's even on both sides.
@underlined That's plot! Naruto has also been saved countless times by others. So again, they are both even in this regard. Kurama's protective services were a bonus. So Naruto's debts on Kurama still exist.
On top of all that, Sasuke's powers only give him powers. They don't give him advises. They don't give him strategies. They don't give him knowledge. They don't work for him while he's busy. They don't give him surplus supplies of chakra. They don't enhance his physical capabilities. They don't heal his injuries for him with their chakra (You could say the same about Sasuke i.e. others healing his injuries. But others have also healed Naruto's injuries, so its cancelled out. Kurama's services are a bonus).
So even if we consider your argument, you are still in the negative.
It was 2 vs 6 or 7 if you include Nagato controlling them, Or will you say Kurama would of been able to defeat Pain himself not for Naruto's intervention using SM? Kurama would of mostly likely got taken if Naruto never interfered because 6 vs 1 would of mean't him being collected like the rest.
You made me laugh quite a bit with your ridiculous relation of figures. Actually, Naruto was lucky it was 2 vs 6. Because 2 vs 1 could have been catastrophic for Naruto. Ignorant people like you only go by numbers.
Let me give you a little insight of Naruto vs Pain fight:
1. Nagato was using the Six Paths of Pain. This means that his chakra was being distributed evenly among every Path, so every Path received 1/6 of Nagato's chakra, which means that Nagato could only use 1/6 of the total power of his jutsus from each Path using the Six Paths of Pain.
2. On top of that, Nagato was channeling his chakra to the Six Paths of Pain, so the strength and speed of his jutsus was considerably decreased.
3. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, Nagato had already used so much chakra in his battle against Konoha. He fought so many shinobis including Kakashi, not to mention the almighty Shinra Tensei which destroyed the entire village. All this activity prior to his fight with Naruto consumed a huge amount of chakra, so he didn't start his fight with full chakra level.
4. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, and having used so much chakra before and slight exhaustion, and even on top of losing all the other Paths including the regeneration Path as the fight continued, he easily fought Naruto and effortlessly pinned him down using only the Deva Path.
5. Even after all the aforementioned reasons, and fighting with only the Deva Path, he could have easily killed SM Naruto, only if he wanted to. Since Naruto was a jinchuuriki, he couldn't kill Naruto. So, Naruto had a tremendous advantage due to this restriction.
Therefore, the conclusion until now:
Deva Path only (with an immensely depleted chakra reserves and considerably exhausted, and the strength and speed of his jutsus decreased, and even having no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto
And if the argument till now isn't enough, don't worry, I have more.
6. So now we have a severely weakened, exhausted and low on chakra reserves Pain (Deva Path only, mind you) who can't use the maximum strength and speed of his jutsus, and has no intention of killing Naruto, even after that he was able to counter Naruto's six tailed form, full of rage, and fought on par with him.
7. EVEN AFTER ALL THOSE DISADVANTAGES ON PAIN'S SIDE
AND Naruto's sudden burst of power thanks to Kurama, Pain was able to dominate Naruto using Chibaku Tensei.
So now, let's take a look at the state of your mighty hero:
Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto + Six Tailed form (enraged)
8. Even after
ALL THAT, Naruto was completely owned by Pain. So he had to push further and unleash the eight tailed form, only then he was able to fight back Pain with the upper hand.
Let's summarize again now:
SM Naruto + EIGHT Tailed form (enraged) > Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto)
OK, so that's what it takes for Naruto (all of his advantages and all of Pain's disadvantages) to overpower Pain. Impressive!
8. Even after all that, Naruto completely ran out of Sage Mode while Nagato still had enough chakra to revive so many of Konoha's shinobis. Even then if Nagato wished to destroy Naruto, he could have easily done that, unless Kurama intervened again to save Naruto's ass.
I proved all of the above points although I didn't need to, because ignorant people like you aren't able to comprehend the nature of the fight and its details. We've already seen how well Nagato could handle Naruto, Bee and Itachi combined, during the war. If it weren't for Itachi's Totsuka Blade and saving Naruto and Bee on time, they would've been in serious trouble.
What if Itachi never died and Sasuke after overusing his Sharingan, where would he get his new light. Sharingan is only usable for so long until you overuse it's abilities evident of the many who try to attain new eyes.
Sasuke doesn't need new light after overusing the Sharingan because it has no side effects. You only experience blindness after overusing the Mangekyou Sharingan. And if Itachi hadn't died, Sasuke wouldn't have awakened the Mangekyou Sharingan. He would have some other power. And since we don't know what power he would have, we can't talk about it. Therefore, there is no need to go into "What if?". Nobody cares about what would have happened otherwise.
