[Discussion] Naruto VS Sasuke Official Thread

[Frikid]

First of all, Sasuke doesnt have Hashirama's cells. Kabuto made a medicine by mixing Hashirma's cells with something. It doesnt give Sasuke Hashirama's cells of DNA. You've got to understand that.

Secondly, Sasuke doesnt have Senjutsu nor has he ever learned to control nature energy so he cant control it.

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Manga states otherwise.

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And to me it is beyond me you did not understand what I wrote but I'll explain as clearly as possible, Just because I said that Madara was able to control Senjutsu due to a lookalike face of Hashirama's on his chest does not mean I suggested in anyway that he needed a "Senju Body" No I said that he needed part of his DNA which the face is part of but where'd you get this part about me mentioning that anyone of them needed to be part of the Senju clan? I don't see anywhere in my post mentioning anything remotely having anything to do with the Senju I said he needed Senju Hashirama's DNA and those people who you suggested

Jiraiya,sasuke,minato,Kabuto,Orochimaru,NARUTO

1st: Jiraiya trained to be able to and use Sage Mode
2nd: Sasuke received it from Juugo which he merged with that Susanaoo of his
3rd: Minato well his SM came out of nowhere though probably trained like Jiraya and Naruto
4th: Kabuto same as Jiraya, Naruto and Minato except Snake versions
5th: Orochimaru? don't remember him using any type of SM

You are contradicting yourself.

You first claim senju dna is required to use SM yet yourself explain how SM was achieved by Non-Senju with NO senju dna.
And you also admitted sasuke can handle Senjutsu ( i highlighted it with red in the quote)

So i guess this discussion is over

 

[UzumakiRyu]

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Scans proof nothing to answer the first picture that means nothing at all like Inferno792 already clearly said it was a "medical fix" and does not mean you can associate that one thing to giving Sasuke the ability to do something else that is clearly fan logic, giving your fav an ability due to one thing happening which to you means he should be able to do something else so stupid

and the second picture just shows Sasuke merging with Juugo's chakra which of course is Completely different to Naruto's, that fool wasn't able to control Senjutsu properly he goes into rages when he embraces it vs Naruto who trained and learned to control actual Senjutsu

 

[Inferno792]

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You are contradicting yourself.

You first claim senju dna is required to use SM yet yourself explain how SM was achieved by Non-Senju with NO senju dna.
And you also admitted sasuke can handle Senjutsu ( i highlighted it with red in the quote)

So i guess this discussion is over

He said that he could save his life with the medicine he made using his medical ninjutsu, Hashi's cells and someone's advice. Never said that he implanted Hashi's DNa or cells in Sasuke.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

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Manga states otherwise.

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You are contradicting yourself.

You first claim senju dna is required to use SM yet yourself explain how SM was achieved by Non-Senju with NO senju dna.
And you also admitted sasuke can handle Senjutsu ( i highlighted it with red in the quote)

So i guess this discussion is over

Actually you said that "Senju DNA is required for SM" not me you misunderstood what I said and presumed it to mean something else not my fault you don't understand the meaning of comprehension and I explained why Non-Senju as you put it gained SM in response to your post lel and again you misunderstand and again take out the part that helps you and forget the most important part which is that Juugo and Naruto are completely different so you cannot say just because Sasuke is able to merge with an experiment named Juugo's Senjutsu Chakra that gives him the ability to somehow do the same with Naruto who like I said trained and is able to actually use Senjutsu

 

[lion fang master]

This battle should be great (kishi don't bore us please) what scares me is the manga going to play to naruto strength or are they going to display sasuke skills. I do wonder if there is another level to sasuke sage power cuz it seems very basic . hopefully we see some uzumaki traits and some FTG especially since this is a battle oif ninjutsu vs niishu and since hagoromo mentioned chakra mixing together all I ca remember is is this pics

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[UzumakiRyu]

This battle should be great (kishi don't bore us please) what scares me is the manga going to play to naruto strength or are they going to display sasuke skills. I do wonder if there is another level to sasuke sage power cuz it seems very basic . hopefully we see some uzumaki traits and some FTG especially since this is a battle oif ninjutsu vs niishu and since hagoromo mentioned chakra mixing together all I ca remember is is this pics

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He will want to display Sasuke's the most first since now that its been shown that Sasuke intentionally held back during Kaguya fight though not to the point where it can be said certain things happened due to him restraining himself like failing to hit Kaguya when he used his S/T against her that is just because well guess he ain't as good like his fans think he is or he's to slow and since S/T isn't judged by time well guess that means his technique ain't that good if she can sense him before he attacks now imagine Naruto in SM mode lol

 

[tobi 1]

Couple of issues I would like to address:
First I agree with the ones who think that the core difference between Sasuke and Naruto (other than love and understanding against power) is that one wants to remember, learn from and cherish the past while the other wants to destroy it and make ideal world from scratch. But what Sasuke doesn’t understand is that the cycle of hatred would never be over if he kills the Gokages, since we all know that each of them put his life on the line for the sake of his village many times. They are all loved by the people in the village and they owe their lives to them, so I guess Sasuke will have bigger problem than he thinks to lead them in the day after.
My next issue is about the fight. I think that the marked kunai here

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means that Naruto now knows FTG and if we learned something about Kishi is that if he talks about a Jutsu he usually use it in the manga. This leads me to believe that Naruto is going to use a version of his father unseen Jutsu with the long name.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

I'm still trying to understand where Sasuke is going with this. If he defeats Naruto, then what? Kill all the Kages and then become the new leader of the world? Well for starters, the other Ninjas will never follow him on their free will, so he either had to rule by fear using the Bijuus or control everyone using the Rinegan. Which basically makes me think he's no better than Obito or/and Madara. This is a hot confusing mess...

He wants to become the world ruler and make everyone hate him from having killed the kages and Naruto. His idea is that if hate is focused towards him, people and countries will not hate each other, and he's ready to do that even if it means people uniting in order to kill him. That is why he says Itachi was the "true hokage" (in *********** translation). He believes he can do it as he is used to being alone, and in order to "continue to be lonely" he believes he has to (not that he wants to) kill Naruto. What he "learnt from Itachi" is that hi is ready to be disliked and killed for everyone's sake.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

This couldn't have been stated better. What exactly does Sasuke want? To be a dictator? Doesn't his thinking mimic the Second Hokage's line of thought? We saw what a success he was.

He wants to be hated by everyone like Lelouch in Code Geass, wants to become everyone's "enemy number one" by killing the Kages and Naruto, so that countries and people will not hate each other but only him. Just as Itachi was despised by everyone.

He believes killing Naruto is necessary, not that he really wants to do it. Of course I don'´t agree with him.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Re: Sigh....Kishimoto...

Watch Code Geass and you'll realize Sasuke is neither good nor bad at this point. He's just trying to fulfill what he believes to be "his role" for the sake of mankind, even if that means killing 5 kages and his closest friend. What he learnt from Itachi is that you must be ready to fulfill your role for the sake of others even if it is bad for you (I mean, it's not nice to be hated by everyone to the point they would kill you).

 

[Rogue Pit]

How bout those indra and Ashura Modes tho!

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Although Ashura is locate within the stomach of his power, where Indra is within his head.
Naruto is also within it's head, What do you think the difference is? Ashura was just beast without any tailed beast like Indra?

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Also can't we actually say Sasuke surpassed Indra with his rinnegan?

 

[Romy9]

He believes killing Naruto is necessary, not that he really wants to do it. Of course I don'´t agree with him.

His point of view is wrong though. What he fails to grasp is the fact that Itachi took the role of the victim while the shinobi world wasn't united and to some degree TnJd by Naruto. This is what Naruto's trying to tell him and what Itachi wanted for Sasuke to realize. The shinobi world is united for the first time ever and it doesn't require the sacrifice that Itachi took in a broken, ruled by hatred shinobi system.

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

I feel like the powerups ain't done yet

Naruto bout to have his hair spike up even more so, gonna lose his eyebrows and have lightning appear around him.

What does that mean? SUPER SAIYAN.

 

[tobi 1]

The marked kunai here

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means that Naruto now knows FTG. I think that "that jutsu" is Minato unseen jutsu with the long name combind with Kage Bunshin. Just think how powerful would be 10 sage mode Narutos throwing kunais and just popping around Instantly (like minato's shunshin v' 2 against Toby only multipled by 10 and more powerful). What do you think?