[Discussion] Naruto VS Sasuke Official Thread

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Neither will win, now that Sasuke sealed the bijuu, Naruto will have to fight using his own power for the most part, not borrowed power. It's nice to see Sasuke was actually holding back against Kaguya and letting naruto do most of the work so he would keep most of his new moves secret. So it's perfect Susanoo vs possible Avatar mode, half and half of the sage's power against one another, this will not result in one's victory, it's going to collateral damage.

 

[The Sach]

It is but obvious that Naruto will win this, question is how?
Frankly, I want him to defeat Sasuke, not kill him, restrain him rather than some TNJ. If later happens, I will be highly disappointed.

 

[Jimihendrix]

comapred to Jin Madz' chibaku tensei/meteors, which had dwarfed the shinju tree, Sasuke's is fairly small

 

[Jimihendrix]

well now we know why Sasuke's character design hasn't been revealed yet for the movie--it's because he loses. And until his character design is revealed, then this [most likely] accurate assumption will remain

 

[Booker]

Sasuke Has An Evil Heart; It Will Never Be Changed

Since day one, Itachi's supposed "plan" had backfired.

While his actions did inspire Sasuke to chase after him and seek to kill him, he had also managed to damage him beyond repair. That night, Sasuke was turned into a creature of endless vengance. We've seen this over the course of the series. After all, it's his defining characteristic.

But then, supposedly, his motives changed from vengance to revolution. At least, that's what he states. However, his actions suggest otherwise.

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These are not the words of someone who honestly cares about the fate of the shinobi world. He sees the Kages as those who allowed his brother and family to be slaughtered. He sees the Elders as those who prey on and take advantage of families such as his. He sees the entire shinobi world as those who mock and ridicule the memory of his family.

This is not for revolution. This is not for change.

This is about settling debts. Revenge.

He wants to do right by his family name and punish those as he sees responsible for his misfortune. Sasuke enjoys the torture. He enjoys the idea of ending everything. In a lot of ways, he's worse than Madara. Madara, at least initially, had the best interests of the world in mind, albeit he wanted to acheive that peace against their will. Eventually, on his deathbed, he was even able to admit he was wrong about his ways.

Sasuke witnessed all of this, and STILL chose to pursue his original intention. That speaks volumes.

Sasuke Uchiha is an evil creature of revenge, and he will always find a way channel his efforts into it. Even his beloved brother's words were twisted in his own mind, changing the message of peace and acceptance into one of vengance. He doesn't care about peace or anybody of the village. They've been dead to him since the day he left, when he finally truly snapped. Do you HONESTLY believe that Sasuke doesn't have destruction in mind? He's not stupid. He knows nobody will go along with his supposed takeover.

This attack means bloodshed. A lot of it. And frankly, I believe that's what Sasuke wants. He wants to punish every last man, woman, and child. All that's changed now is that he's waiting for an excuse to exact that revenge.

TL;DR ( I highly recommend you read, though)

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Sasuke is and always has had an evil heart of revenge, it's just a matter of how he channels that endless hate. He cannot be changed. In many ways, if you watch Dexter, he has his own Dark Passenger that will always cause him to resort to revenge.

 

[-immortal-]

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10/10 would read again

 

[Migster257]

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I don't think Sasuke's evil though, but that's just me.

 

[NinJaGirl99]

I'm still trying to understand where Sasuke is going with this. If he defeats Naruto, then what? Kill all the Kages and then become the new leader of the world? Well for starters, the other Ninjas will never follow him on their free will, so he either had to rule by fear using the Bijuus or control everyone using the Rinegan. Which basically makes me think he's no better than Obito or/and Madara. This is a hot confusing mess...

This couldn't have been stated better. What exactly does Sasuke want? To be a dictator? Doesn't his thinking mimic the Second Hokage's line of thought? We saw what a success he was.

 

[Senpou]

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Agreed. +REP

These are not the words of someone who honestly cares about the fate of the shinobi world. He sees the Kages as those who allowed his brother and family to be slaughtered. He sees the Elders as those who prey on and take advantage of families such as his. He sees the entire shinobi world as those who mock and ridicule the memory of his family.

This is not for revolution. This is not for change.

This is about settling debts. Revenge.

He wants to do right by his family name and punish those as he sees responsible for his misfortune. Sasuke enjoys the torture. He enjoys the idea of ending everything. In a lot of ways, he's worse than Madara. Madara, at least initially, had the best interests of the world in mind, albeit he wanted to acheive that peace against their will. Eventually, on his deathbed, he was even able to admit he was wrong about his ways.

Sasuke witnessed all of this, and STILL chose to pursue his original intention. That speaks volumes.

So true.

 

[Byron123]

The title of this section writes "Discussion" but what it means is "Bloodshed till only one side stays alive" XDXDXD

 

[Targaryen]

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Sasuke isn't evil lol. But okay.

 

[Booker]

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I don't think Sasuke's evil though, but that's just me.

Sasuke isn't evil lol. But okay.

I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

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Yep, some of his fans think that because Kishi said Sasuke was pure, he meant that Sasuke is a good person, but Sasuke's actions prove otherwise. They must not have heard of the term "pure evil".

 

[kyuubi007]

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very correct

 

[Kαmi]

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He does have good intentions though. Remember when he was dying against Madara? His dying thoughts were to be what it meant to really be a Kage, a worthy one at that. In Sasuke's mind, the others Kages aren't worthy and are the cause of everything that happened. He is pretty vengeful but he has good intentions too. He doesn't plan on slaughtering every parent and child but anyone who opposes him. After taking care of the Kages, Sasuke plans on being a true Kage to change the ninja system. It's a strange way of going about things but it makes complete sense in the long run trying to see it from his perspective.

I wouldn't go as far to call him evil but calling him good would be a damn lie. He has pure intentions is all, and no gray line exists with him. You're either with him or you're not.

 

[Jimihendrix]

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and that's the side effect of being Indra's transmigrant U_U you become a whiny little every villain is lemons *****

 

[Indora]

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Awesome thread.
10\10 I would read again

 

[Booker]

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He does have good intentions though. Remember when he was dying against Madara? His dying thoughts were to be what it meant to really be a Kage, a worthy one at that. In Sasuke's mind, the others Kages aren't worthy and are the cause of everything that happened. He is pretty vengeful but he has good intentions too. He doesn't plan on slaughtering every parent and child but anyone who opposes him. After taking care of the Kages, Sasuke plans on being a true Kage to change the ninja system. It's a strange way of going about things but it makes complete sense in the long run trying to see it from his perspective.

I wouldn't go as far to call him evil but calling him good would be a damn lie. He has pure intentions is all, and no gray line exists with him. You're either with him or you're not.

And how many do you think are really going to be okay with this whole deal?

I'd say that's pretty damn evil. Ignoring everyone's desires and killing anyone who disagrees.

 

[wael reda]

I think Sasuke would get double rinningan and here is how

During the fight i think Naruto would shot Sasuke with a deadly attack but Sasuke would use Izanagi by his EMS eye and then jumb to Madara’s body and take one of his rinningans and transplant it in the place of his EMS eye which lost the light after using Izanagi

remember ,Madara said Sasuke’s rinningan fits him well so it is safe to say that any of Madara’s rinningans will fit Sasuke well too

thoughts,please?

 

[patrickscott]

Even the Sasuke fans have to agree....

Naruto's gonna kill him. Everyone he's ever looked at like that has either been killed or ****ed up bad. Current Naruto who is confirmed to have all nine chakra of the bijuus in him is way too much for Sasuke. If you think I'm talking shit then answer me why there aren't any sketches of him for the last movie? He's going down.

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