Naruto vs Sasuke Checkpoint

Who would win in a fight today?

  • Naruto

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  • Sasuke

    Votes: 11 25.0%
  • Can't tell

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I've seen a few other people suggest that the manga is about halfway through the war at this point, which I agree. The first stage, where the Edo Tensei summons are playing the biggest role in primary combat is coming to an end, and Madara's plans with using the Zetsu clones to draw out Naruto and Bee has started.

I think now is a good point to start comparing Naruto and Sasuke, since we know they are going to fight in the end. Both of them have some pretty powerful new techniques and they are going to learn to master them on the battlefield.

We've only seen Sasuke for two pages in the end of episode 553: He was using a full-power Susanoo with what appear to be Amaterasu-based arrows. We have to assume that his old MS techniques (Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susanoo) are all more powerful and Amaterasu+Susanoo combinations are better. We also have to assume that he has at least one new EMS jutsu, like Madara. Sasuke's other skills (ninjutsu, taijutsu) were always strong and are probably better now.

Sasuke's old weakness, if he ever really had one, was his chakra reserve. Back in the early parts of the manga he was limited and always had less chakra than Naruto. In the fight against the Kages at the summit, he had more than enough chakra to stand up to the Raikage, Darui, Gaara, the Mizukage and finally the Tuschikage before running out. Against Danzo, he was able to spam several powerful MS techniques without running out of chakra. His eyes were the limitations in that battle. We have to assume he has even more chakra now.

Saskue has no real limitations. He gets better techniques, is perfecting and combining his techniques, and is increasing his chakra levels very quickly.

Compare to Naruto. Naruto always had juge chakra, and with Sage mode and Fox mode he has big sources to draw from. Naruto has fox chakra mode has limitations: Naruto can't use the tailed beast ball yet, he can't stay in the shroud for long, he runs out of chakra at unexpected times, etc. He also can't do all the beast transformations that Bee can do. The mode also puts some limitations on his ability to make clones in large numbers. His taijutsu in all modes is good.

In terms of ninjutsu, Naruto hasn't really learned anything new. He has new types of Rasengan to use, mostly just new ways of making and using normal rasengans. He also has the chakra arms. He only knows one element (wind) and only has one elemental attack (Rasenshuriken). Wind is weak against Sasuke's fire, but strong against Sasukes lighting. Naruto doesn't know how to stream his chakra, or has never done it. He has a lot of big flashy attacks (Rasenshuriken, Odama Rasengan, etc) but not many defensive attacks or smaller strategic ones. He still doesn't have the control to form a normal rasengan with one hand. Even in sage mode he needs clones to make a simple rasengan. He still needs two clones to make a Rasenshuriken. Sage mode and Chakra mode are both limited, he can switch between them but cannot hold either for too long. Naruto has no real defensive techniques either, besides his ability to dodge.

If the two fight today, who wins? How do you think they are going to improve during the war?
 
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Naruto has fast regeneration which could be counted as minior wounds heal fast and sage mode increase's his skins strength, naruto also is well adaptable and finds new ways to fight in situations like the chunin exams against neji or fighting pein by throwing himself. He may need a shadow clone but it gets the job done at the end of the day and shadow clones seem to be the most useful tech in the narutoverse as he can fake his attacks with a decoy causing opening's.

Sasuke at this point in time and maybe forever from now on is stronger. The facts are clear he has a massive chakra reserve a amazing defence and genjutsu (Naruto's weakness) but i think sasuke will lose, He lets his emotions get the better of him and it will lead him to make mistakes. I think it will end with sasuke about to kill naruto, sasuke fist goes towards naruto's chest and all of a sudden iatchi edo moves in the way and itachi begins to die again, and itachi's last words convince sasuke to team up with naruto to fight madara who will somehow extract naruto's beast without killing him and it will be sasuke and naruto vs madara 10 tails.
 

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I think you still underestimate Naruto. Narutos shadow clones and rasengan variations have been all that he needed. But his greatest asset is his ability to adapt and find a way to win in the most difficult situations ex- Neji, pain, 3rd Raikage. Also it's Safe to assume that kyuubi can n will aid naruto against any genjutsu Sasuke will use.

Sasuke on the other as strong as he is or will be will never have enough chakra to equal a fraction of Narutos. Sasukes biggest weakness is not even his chakra reserves but that his jutsus depletes huge amounts of his chakra. Sasuke cannot last a prolong battle where Naruto can.

Sasuke had nearly ran out of chakra fighting Raikage at the summit and was healed by Zetsu, gained more chakra and than was able to hold his own for awhile against Mei but had to be saved again by Madara against Onoikis Dust jutsu. Sasuke was again depleted after fighting Danzo, he did not have the strength to have another fight against Naruto or Kakashi afterwards.

With sage and kyuubi mode added to Narutos own huge amount of chakra, Naruto nearly has limitless supply. Also Naruto is officially the fastest ninja alive now, his speed will aid him greatly in avoiding ameratsu attacks. Naruto is experienced in fighting agaisnt sharingan users from facing Itachi and most likely have kyuubi to help. Naruto is well equipped to face new Sasuke.

I didn't even mention TBB which Naruto will eventually master
 

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sasuke would win U_U
if naruto doesn't learn the tbb or if he doesn't make kyuubi his friend he has no chance against sasuke :p
well if naruto manage transform into kyuubi mode he will be a big fcking target and will be spammed with amaterasu so the only chance for naruto is to manage to do the ttb on kyuubi cloak mode U_U
 

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Naruto can kill Sasuke just as much as Sasuke can kill Naruto. This fight will be based on minor factors like surroundings and certain situations
 

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From the technqiues demonstrated by both ninja's to me sasuke is still stronger than naruto and will defeat him. Sasuke has better offensive and defensive techniques. So far from what ive seen, naruto has to fight a close combat fight with sasuke if he has any chance of winning and i cannot see it. Relying on great speed, taijutsu and many different forms of rasengan either in tailed beast mode or sage mode isnt going to work.

Sasuke has many defenses available to him, from being able to predict movement with his sharighan, to being able to use chidori nagashi, to only activating a partial version of susanoo which he would further protect himself by activating amaterasu and molding it around susanoo, to give him a strong defence and offence.

And if for some strange reason all this doesnt work, then he could use susanoo's final form. Basically the offensive techniques naruto has demonstrated so far, isnt convincing enough for him to win this duel
 

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From the technqiues demonstrated by both ninja's to me sasuke is still stronger than naruto and will defeat him. Sasuke has better offensive and defensive techniques. So far from what ive seen, naruto has to fight a close combat fight with sasuke if he has any chance of winning and i cannot see it. Relying on great speed, taijutsu and many different forms of rasengan either in tailed beast mode or sage mode isnt going to work.

Sasuke has many defenses available to him, from being able to predict movement with his sharighan, to being able to use chidori nagashi, to only activating a partial version of susanoo which he would further protect himself by activating amaterasu and molding it around susanoo, to give him a strong defence and offence.

And if for some strange reason all this doesnt work, then he could use susanoo's final form. Basically the offensive techniques naruto has demonstrated so far, isnt convincing enough for him to win this duel
Better offensive techs? No, rasengan = 1hit kill Chidori = death if i hit the right spot

Sage mode and KM mode would help becasue he will DEFINITELY need speed and amped up senses to take on sasuke, and once again rasenga = 1 hit kill as well as all of its variations. And if Sasukes sharingan couldnt keep up with Raikage, it wont keep up with Naruto in KM

....susanoo's a bitch though. But despite looking as strong as ever its not like Naruto is gonna automatically die the second its brought out, somehow kishi will have Naruto think of a way around it like some underground shoryuken from withing susanoo or something
 

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Better offensive techs? No, rasengan = 1hit kill Chidori = death if i hit the right spot

Sage mode and KM mode would help becasue he will DEFINITELY need speed and amped up senses to take on sasuke, and once again rasenga = 1 hit kill as well as all of its variations. And if Sasukes sharingan couldnt keep up with Raikage, it wont keep up with Naruto in KM

....susanoo's a bitch though. But despite looking as strong as ever its not like Naruto is gonna automatically die the second its brought out, somehow kishi will have Naruto think of a way around it like some underground shoryuken from withing susanoo or something
Chidori is just as strong as rasengan, depending on where you make contact with the opponent. You telling me that a chidori to the heart wouldnt kill?. You do realise that it was a technique used for assassination purposes.

Besides when i mention offensive technqiues chidori didnt even come to mind. All of naruto's offensive techniques are some form of rasengan, which im araid wouldnt work on sasuke's defense. Sasuke on the other hand has many different chakra affiliation technqiues which are both long and short range techniques, not to forget are far stronger than naruto's.

Right now naruto's strongest ninjutsu is fuuton rasengan shrunken. That wouldnt even affect sasuke partial susanoo defense. Sasuke has kirin, amaterasu, is quiet effective in genjutsu and lets not forget that susanoo although its a defensive technqiue, its also quiet useful in attack, either by using the arror or by grabbing the opponents and squeezing the life out of them, ask danzou lol. And this is the sasuke with just the ms, i cannot wait to see what the sasuke with the ems can do
 
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Chidori is just as strong as rasengan, depending on where you make contact with the opponent. You telling me that a chidori to the heart wouldnt kill?. You do realise that it was a technique used for assassination purposes.

Besides when i mention offensive technqiues chidori didnt even come to mind. All of naruto's offensive techniques are some form of rasengan, which im araid wouldnt work on sasuke's defense. Sasuke on the other hand has many different chakra affiliation technqiues which are both long and short range techniques, not to forget are far stronger than naruto's.

Right now naruto's strongest ninjutsu is fuuton rasengan shrunken. That wouldnt even affect sasuke partial susanoo defense. Sasuke has kirin, amaterasu, is quiet effective in genjutsu and lets not forget that susanoo although its a defensive technqiue, its also quiet useful in attack, either by using the arror or by grabbing the opponents and squeezing the life out of them, ask danzou lol. And this is the sasuke with just the ms, i cannot wait to see what the sasuke with the ems can do
In Sage mode Rasengan is 2 times as strong


if he does not have the totsuka sword and the yata mirror , he is not even stronger than Itachi at this level

He better have some power ups


Susanoo drains a lot of chakra , Sasuke wont be able to use the final for for long . that wil lbe the last thing he does

and as danzo shows it is not unbeatable
 

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Naruto has fast regeneration which could be counted as minior wounds heal fast and sage mode increase's his skins strength, naruto also is well adaptable and finds new ways to fight in situations like the chunin exams against neji or fighting pein by throwing himself. He may need a shadow clone but it gets the job done at the end of the day and shadow clones seem to be the most useful tech in the narutoverse as he can fake his attacks with a decoy causing opening's.

Sasuke at this point in time and maybe forever from now on is stronger. The facts are clear he has a massive chakra reserve a amazing defence and genjutsu (Naruto's weakness) but i think sasuke will lose, He lets his emotions get the better of him and it will lead him to make mistakes. I think it will end with sasuke about to kill naruto, sasuke fist goes towards naruto's chest and all of a sudden iatchi edo moves in the way and itachi begins to die again, and itachi's last words convince sasuke to team up with naruto to fight madara who will somehow extract naruto's beast without killing him and it will be sasuke and naruto vs madara 10 tails.
grt man.....
 

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In Sage mode Rasengan is 2 times as strong


if he does not have the totsuka sword and the yata mirror , he is not even stronger than Itachi at this level

He better have some power ups


Susanoo drains a lot of chakra , Sasuke wont be able to use the final for for long . that wil lbe the last thing he does

and as danzo shows it is not unbeatable
I do not care if rasengan in sage mode is 2 times stronger, it still wouldnt be able to affect sasuke in partial susanoo mode. We do not know whether sasuke now has the yata armour and the totsuka sword. Even if he doesnt, susanoo alone is a strong defense. An incomplete version alone guarded sasuke at the 5 kage meeting when, everybody attacked him at once (gaara and co, raikage and co).

Susanoo does drain alot of chakra, but sasuke has alot more chakra reserve than itachi. Also i think the ems would make life a little easier for sasuke when he uses susanoo. Danzou didnt show anything, that was still an incomplete susanoo sasuke used. The only time we saw sasuke's complete susanoo was when he was about to face off against kakashi. He activated this for a second before, it automatically deactivated due to sasuke having not recovered from his previous fights
 

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I do not care if rasengan in sage mode is 2 times stronger, it still wouldnt be able to affect sasuke in partial susanoo mode. We do not know whether sasuke now has the yata armour and the totsuka sword. Even if he doesnt, susanoo alone is a strong defense. An incomplete version alone guarded sasuke at the 5 kage meeting when, everybody attacked him at once (gaara and co, raikage and co).

Susanoo does drain alot of chakra, but sasuke has alot more chakra reserve than itachi. Also i think the ems would make life a little easier for sasuke when he uses susanoo. Danzou didnt show anything, that was still an incomplete susanoo sasuke used. The only time we saw sasuke's complete susanoo was when he was about to face off against kakashi. He activated this for a second before, it automatically deactivated due to sasuke having not recovered from his previous fights
Partial susanoo mode was broken by Raikage's Bitchslap Sage mode rasengan is much stronger than that , dont argue with the obvious


Sasuke's attacks are pointless , Naruto has a decent defence in fox AND sage mode , and even if Sasuke Lands a hit Naruto can regenerate in an instant with fox chakra

90 % of Naruto's abilities are forgotten by Sasuke fans

so , not a valid argument

and HOW do you know that he has a lot more chakra than itachi ?

Where has it been Stated in the manga ?


Sasuke's only option is to 1 shot Naruto , and he hasn't got such a technique . a technique that he can use constantly


please state facts
 
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Naruto has fast regeneration which could be counted as minior wounds heal fast and sage mode increase's his skins strength, naruto also is well adaptable and finds new ways to fight in situations like the chunin exams against neji or fighting pein by throwing himself. He may need a shadow clone but it gets the job done at the end of the day and shadow clones seem to be the most useful tech in the narutoverse as he can fake his attacks with a decoy causing opening's.

Sasuke at this point in time and maybe forever from now on is stronger. The facts are clear he has a massive chakra reserve a amazing defence and genjutsu (Naruto's weakness) but i think sasuke will lose, He lets his emotions get the better of him and it will lead him to make mistakes. I think it will end with sasuke about to kill naruto, sasuke fist goes towards naruto's chest and all of a sudden iatchi edo moves in the way and itachi begins to die again, and itachi's last words convince sasuke to team up with naruto to fight madara who will somehow extract naruto's beast without killing him and it will be sasuke and naruto vs madara 10 tails.
sasuke hasnt got amazing defence or genjutsu. Sassano has been damaged from various jutsu, again people dont understand why sassano is a good defence. Its not how much it can tank its the fact it can be repaired. He shouldnt even bother using genjutsu against naruto thats waste of chakra, madara will show us how vulerable naruto is against genjutsu onece and for all.

Needs to be smart to face naruto.

Naruto is now faster, stronger and far more chakra and has far more devasting jutsu if they connected.

Sage mode is enough to take MS, not sure what ems is really gonna do but will wait and see. Fox mode diffinety can take ems in terms of duration i feel.

And naruto is yet to combine sage and fox mode yet and he certainly will do that as he hinted it against nagato.

So naruto at this stage has big advantage. I feel madara knew this and is waiting just to take sasuke's eyes.

Sasuke really needed the legendary items but it looks like itachi still has them. Not surprise I guess they werent part of the sharingan to begin with but I was hoping some transfer took place by itachi.
Thing is naruto has always held back against sasuke the valley of the end fight is a clear example of that. So naruto will most likely just subtue sauske to deal with madara.
 
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sasuke hasnt got amazing defence or genjutsu. Sassano has been damaged from various jutsu, again people dont understand why sassano is a good defence. Its not how much it can tank its the fact it can be repaired. He shouldnt even bother using genjutsu against naruto thats waste of chakra, madara will show us how vulerable naruto is against genjutsu onece and for all.

Needs to be smart to face naruto.

Naruto is now faster, stronger and far more chakra and has far more devasting jutsu if they connected.

Sage mode is enough to take MS, not sure what ems is really gonna do but will wait and see. Fox mode diffinety can take ems in terms of duration i feel.

And naruto is yet to combine sage and fox mode yet and he certainly will do that as he hinted it against nagato.

So naruto at this stage has big advantage. I feel madara knew this and is waiting just to take sasuke's eyes.

Sasuke really needed the legendary items but it looks like itachi still has them. Not surprise I guess they werent part of the sharingan to begin with but I was hoping some transfer took place by itachi.
Thing is naruto has always held back against sasuke the valley of the end fight is a clear example of that. So naruto will most likely just subtue sauske to deal with madara.

well said
 

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You can't say who'll win right now simply because we known nothing of sasuke's ems abilities other than he doesn't go blind from using his ms techniques. Also it's pretty foolish to say naruto could easily beat sasuke right now considering they will always be equal and kishi has shown us this time and time again, when one gets a power up so does the other. They have always been equals and probably always will.
 
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I do not care if rasengan in sage mode is 2 times stronger, it still wouldnt be able to affect sasuke in partial susanoo mode. We do not know whether sasuke now has the yata armour and the totsuka sword. Even if he doesnt, susanoo alone is a strong defense. An incomplete version alone guarded sasuke at the 5 kage meeting when, everybody attacked him at once (gaara and co, raikage and co).

Susanoo does drain alot of chakra, but sasuke has alot more chakra reserve than itachi. Also i think the ems would make life a little easier for sasuke when he uses susanoo. Danzou didnt show anything, that was still an incomplete susanoo sasuke used. The only time we saw sasuke's complete susanoo was when he was about to face off against kakashi. He activated this for a second before, it automatically deactivated due to sasuke having not recovered from his previous fights
the bijuu ball can destroy sasuke susano'o
 
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