[VS] Naruto vs Rinnegan Obito

[warlee]

If naruto has full knowledge he can have obito kamui a clone and attack from the outside. The bijuu are not a problem for bijuu mode naruto. Also bsm should has frog kata which should hit obito.

 

[VolatileSoul]

Obito wins scenario 1-4. He already beat KCM Naruto, and BM Naruto could not hurt him without Kakashi's kamui. They stalemate scenario 5. Naruto can't hurt Obito, but with sage sensing and BM speed, Naruto should be able to react to Obito, and that should prevent Obito from warping him.

 

[Uchiha Style]

Naruto loses the first scenario and might have the hardest diff with scenario two but he wins the rest....my god, Obito is fu_cking overrated as hell in Narutobase.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Naruto loses the first scenario and might have the hardest diff with scenario two but he wins the rest....my god, Obito is fu_cking overrated as hell in Narutobase.

I agree with bold text..., but still Obito is formidable opponent.

Even then BSM Naruto could win against just alone Obito... but against Obito with Tailed beasts could be go either way

 

[Draphsin]

He only needed Killerbee because his bm was limited

That doesnt matter, look at the scan...Without killerbee there to stop isobu then kurama would've been hit, once kurama is hit then the rest gang up. Stop denying the facts, limited BM means nothing in this particular situation.

plus it his first usage Son goku is just a strong as the the rest he is also thrown around like a rag doll not like he would make a difference anyways

Wrong, the more the merrier. So what if goku was thrown around he's still a bijuu that can produce a tbb so naruto will still have to deal with him. Naruto still gets overwhelmed in the end.

Chomei wasit stunned just got thrown back by Naruto's shockwave none of the bijuu can breach the kurama cloak unless the charge a bijuu dama witch is not happening

Wrong chomei was stunned, the force was enough to knock the other bijuu on their backs, its like getting punched in the face & getting knocked over, chomei can fly & so he didnt get knocked over but he felt the same stun that the others did. Stop denying facts...

also Chomei flight is useless as naruto jumped

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also chakra Arms puts its flight to shame look at KM Minato's Chakra arms

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that thing is tooken down little to no effort

Lol Chakra arms? You realize that chomei can fly as high as he wants right? Chomei can fly miles away, not to mention if naruto tried to grab chomei then the other bijuu will be on the ground dealing with him. You think those chakra arms are gonna reach a flying opponent when obito can choose just how high he can fly? lolno naruto isnt touching chomei.

Mind you naruto is in BSM 1 touch from him makes them usless as he can sense the rods instantly and take them out making them inmobile.

I already explained how uchiha kaenjin traps naruto while he's battling with the bijuu, all it takes is the speed of a punch. Sure naruto can find out where the rods are but how does he touch them? lol Naruto will be trapped in the midst of the brawl & when he hurts himself trying to break free of the barrier then the bijuu will be waiting with their own bijuudamas or obito will be waiting with his rods.

Naruto is not putting the bijuu out of commission when all removing the rods does is send the bijuu back to the gedo, obito keeps the body & chakra so all he has to do is insert another rod.

Once again the barrier argument is shit 8 tails fist is fast but no where near as quick as bijuu Damas in fired range

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bijuu damas let off at point blank range as hachibi says you can clearly see the bijuu damas had already let off plus naruto is about 80 feet away

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he hit 5 moving targets at that range kakashi Mistake it for Minato's ftg that barrier isnt happening

What are you talking about? Naruto does not PUNCH faster than gyuki, yes naruto has fast shunshin, yes naruto has fast bijuudamas but none of this matters, obito will place the barrier when naruto's fighting. The scan I showed you is a perfect situation for obito to use uchiha kaenjin which would end up trapping him, he can't react to every singe situation & i dislike how you speak as though he can, naruto is dealing with 6 BIJUU at once before obito does this.

also how does obito handle 5 KSM Clones?

Bijuudama u_u

I was saying that if naruto kurama cloak wears off obito would & will warp a clone 1 he cannot tell the difference naruto can use BM or BSM clones

Why would obito warp a base naruto? Base gets fodderized by juubi sized katon (for starters).

plus naruto can have clones in the kurama avatar with him

Clones in the avatar? Again, why would obito try to warp him then?

also their sensing abilities witch you are really overlooking

No, you're overlooking obito's kamui speed, lol. Obito's chakra doesnt appear until he appears, [

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] & he can appear/disappear near instantly. [

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] Naruto isnt sensing obito, in fact nobody is sensing obito until he's where he wants to be, you can't hit obito while he's warping to a dimension because he's tangible in the kamui dimension, therefore as I said his chakra & pressence are unknown until he's tangible in the real world. Sensing wont notice him until its too late, karin, one of the best sensors & can distinguish chakra signatures didnt even notice obito's chakra, she said that sasuke's simply vanished. [

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you used the bijuu and every argument as if the arnt going down in the 1st 2 minutes of the fight

Lol I gave multiple reason as to how these bijuu are gonna still be in play.

1. There are more of them now.

2. Naruto is by himself now.

3. Chomei will not be stunned & thus be able to fly higher than before.

4. Uchiha kaenjin will trap naruto as he fights.

5. Removing a chakra rods does not kill the bijuu, you need to get rid of the corpse which obito can warp back to the dimension & add another rod to. (<< Naruto does not know this)

& to add, BSM has done nothing spectacular to naruto's feats (except for obvious sensing). You can assume that he would do better but with the knowledge of the shockwave & another bijuu into the mix the odds even out qute nicely. Not to mention naruto has no outside help & obito will be participaring during this fight instead of just standing on the sidelines waiting for a warp. Obito doesnt need to warp, this is to kill so naruto is getting killed.

5 arguments for keeping them in, so unless you can counter them adequately then they're staying.

Obito warping him is never happening to many clones to great of a sensor and he's just to fast.

No, obito is just too fast, unless you believe that naruto can sense as fast as light (feats & hype to support it)[

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] then you are wrong. Karin didnt notice the highspeed warp, what makes you think that naruto will? SM sensing doesnt change anything & the negative intent wont be noticed until he's tangible either.

That is pure speculation but ill let you have that one but Obito knows little to nothing about FTG

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Scan 1. He was surprised at ftg speed saying teleportation so he really is that fast

Scan 2. Surprised he came out of the kunai also didnt know he could come out the kunai.
clearly lacks info on ftg but i agree with you on this

That bold is speculation, obito merely commented on minato's speed. There is nothing stating obito was surprised that minato could appear from his kunai.

Obito can warp inside the shroud all he wants but when he materilized he is hit

How? They cant sense him until he's materialized so if obito teleports inside one of kurama's tails then naruto WONT realize it until he's already there. Sensing can't help you predict movements & sensing can't sense chakra in the other dimension. Obito is not getting hit because naruto isnt sensing him before he enters.

also how would he know witch is the real naruto as he can have clones in the shroud with him

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also if knows witch one is the real one he will need to turn solid in order to warp he gets hit with

Are you just repeating youself now? Dude I already told you that obito isnt warping unless he finds a perfect chance to. Obito knows that naruto knows of his ability, he doesnt have kamui or FTG so he can't counter. Obito can play with naruto as much as he wants with the bijuu wilst looking for that opportunity. Not to mention he has the chains/uchiha kaenjin which he could also use at any time, & katon/shuriken for base mode should naruto try to escape.

Btw obito can easily fly around the battlefield atop chomei.

RS Outer path chains has nothing on naruto he could possibly grab them with his tails like this

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Read my 2nd last scan....I posted this image. Naruto grabbed the chains and threw them before obito could activate the seal (bottom right). If obito warps inside of the tail then he can spam multiple rods [

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] from within the cloak & he'd have one on himself as well, once he's warped inside of the shroud then the chain seal will be activated & naruto will be stuck.

 

[blazekev90]

Base Naruto nearly KO'd him

 

[KCMNaruto]

Base Naruto nearly KO'd him

Lol but it was just fight/conversation in mindscape...

Base Naruto has no chance against MS Obito let alone Rinnegan with MS Obito...

but I keep my opinion that BSM Naruto finally surprassed all forms of Obito except Ten tails host Obito.

 

[End of Days]

Frog kata can one hit KO him, obito has to come close to absorb anyone

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while using kamui in CQC he only sends that part of the body which overlaps with the opponent's body/weapon, but naruto uses natural energy to hit opponents which cant be seen by doujutsu

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so not taking in account the natural energy that surrounds naruto's body will be his downfall

other than that he can also win via frog song

if obito can use only what he has shown in manga then he risks losing all scenarios, if you given his nagato's abilities then he wins all except 4 and 5

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

I'm a naruto fan and ill tell you what I think

Scenerio one: obito

Scenerio two: obito

Scenerio three: prob obito but could go either way

Scenerio four: I don't really know about this one cause I think naruto could outlast him and has intel on kamui so ill say maybe a draw

Scenerio five: naruto. Naruto has extremely great sensing skills in this form and he's shown multiple times that he can enter this form really quick, right when he gets knocked out and loses the form he enters it right away. Also naruto can be smart and make obito kamui a shadow clone then do a senju enchanced tbb and obito would have to use kamui then he gets rasenganed