[VS] Naruto vs Rinnegan Obito

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as the title states ;)

Location: Current battlefield where Obito clashes with Shinobi Alliance

Distance: 50m

Restrictions: Obito DOES NOT HAVE TAILED BEASTS... just fighting alone

Intel: Full

Intent: To Kill

Scenario 1: Sage mode Naruto vs Rinnegan Obito
Scenario 2: Nine tails chakra mode Naruto vs Rinnegan Obito
Scenario 3: Sage Nine tails chakra mode Naruto vs Rinnegan Obito
Scenario 4: Tailed beast mode Naruto vs Rinnegan Obito
Scenario 5: Sage tailed beast mode Naruto vs Rinnegan Obito

Who will win ?

Imo: Rinnegan Obito wins Scenario 1 and Scenario 2 easily..., Scenario 3 Rinnegan Obito wins 7/10 of times...

Scenario 4: Rinnegan Obito wins 6/10 of times but TBM Naruto has his chance as well(4/10)

Scenario 5: STBM Naruto wins 9/10 of times, Rinnegan Obito has nothing on him.

a) Obito is restricted to what the manga only shown about him
b) Obito can use all Rinnegan abilities as Nagato but even stronger(as Naruto stated Obito's Outer path is stronger then Nagato's outer path.)

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Obito wins in all scenarios.
 

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Obito wins in all scenarios.

maybe all Scenarios except Scenario 5..., seriously I don't see Obito win Scenario 5...

Please post your reasons why you think so..., just elaborate more about your decision.

Don't forget that Sage tailed beast mode Naruto can react much faster and sense Obito also he can blitz Obito in mere seconds... seriously Obito has little to noone chance with lucky Kamui shot.
 

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Obito wins every scenario. Bijuu Mode doesn't add anything to the table that would even help him, as Kurama Avatar and Bijuu Dama aren't going to let him counter Kamui. On the other hand we've seen that with the Gunbai Obito has been shown to be able to handle Naruto's clones in CQC with ease.
 

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Obito wins every scenario. Bijuu Mode doesn't add anything to the table that would even help him, as Kurama Avatar and Bijuu Dama aren't going to let him counter Kamui. On the other hand we've seen that with the Gunbai Obito has been shown to be able to handle Naruto's clones in CQC with ease.

Well with Bijuu mode it is most likely true... but I believe you understimate Bijuu mode a bit.

However BSM Naruto is completly another stuff. Current Naruto has not only speed advanatage and can blitz but also posses supperior to Obito great reaction time while being able to sense Obito's pressence.

In other words, Obito can't catch Naruto with Kamui, but Naruto can blitz and kill Obito with blitz speed while heaving supperior reaction time. in BSM Naruto has also better grasp of his speed...

Seriously I don't see Obito wining against BSM Naruto... unless you says Juubi Jin Obito
 

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Well with Bijuu mode it is most likely true... but I believe you understimate Bijuu mode a bit.

However BSM Naruto is completly another stuff. Current Naruto has not only speed advanatage and can blitz but also posses supperior to Obito great reaction time while being able to sense Obito's pressence.

In other words, Obito can't catch Naruto with Kamui, but Naruto can blitz and kill Obito with blitz speed while heaving supperior reaction time. in BSM Naruto has also better grasp of his speed...

Seriously I don't see Obito wining against BSM Naruto... unless you says Juubi Jin Obito

Naruto isn't blitz killing Obito when the latter has Kamui, not a chance.

lol? Naruto can't touch Obito, Obito can touch him. The moment he engages him in CQC he gets warped away. Nobody, including Naruto, can fight at Shunshin speed, meaning "Obito won't be able to catch Naruto with Kamui" is a load of nonsense.
 

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Naruto loses scenario 1 but wins the rest. Obito is overated as phuck on NB.
 

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Obito wins every scenario. Bijuu Mode doesn't add anything to the table that would even help him, as Kurama Avatar and Bijuu Dama aren't going to let him counter Kamui. On the other hand we've seen that with the Gunbai Obito has been shown to be able to handle Naruto's clones in CQC with ease.

Naruto shits scenario 4 & 5 he defeats the bijuu with ease as before

not even close it was shown naruto can sneak a clone without obito knowing

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also warping naruto wont do shit as he knows reverse summoning in a battle of outlasting i would say naruto would eventually get him
 

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Naruto shits scenario 4 & 5 he defeats the bijuu with ease as before

not even close it was shown naruto can sneak a clone without obito knowing

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also warping naruto wont do shit as he knows reverse summoning in a battle of outlasting i would say naruto would eventually get him

Reverse Summoning is not a counter to Kamui, I don't know where this shit even came from.

lol? That was in a scenario where Obito had 3 other people to worry about.
 

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Obito can't lose (in any of these).
 

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Reverse Summoning is not a counter to Kamui, I don't know where this shit even came from.

lol? That was in a scenario where Obito had 3 other people to worry about.

as if naruto cant make obito worry about 15-20 other people reverse summoning can be used like ftg

lets just say by some mirical he manages to warp naruto his clones summons him back with gamabunta as a reverse summoning or naruto beat his ass in there while his clones beat him up in the real world either way he loses
 

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as if naruto cant make obito worry about 15-20 other people reverse summoning can be used like ftg

lets just say by some mirical he manages to warp naruto his clones summons him back with gamabunta as a reverse summoning or naruto beat his ass in there while his clones beat him up in the real world either way he loses

LOL You have absolutely no counter for kamui, or uchiha kaenjin.
 

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clones counter kamui

Bijuudama counters clones. & btw clones do not counter kamui, show me someone countering kamui strictly via clones.

bijuu damas shits on the barrier

He uses bijuudama in the barrier & he hits himself from point blank range, nice move.

or he simply dodges

Barrier was activated mid punch from gyuki, naruto isnt dodging unless he knows its coming, which he won't as obito has multiple bijuu to keep him distracted.
 

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Obito wins all scenarios.
 

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Bijuudama counters clones. & btw clones do not counter kamui, show me someone countering kamui strictly via clones.



He uses bijuudama in the barrier & he hits himself from point blank range, nice move.



Barrier was activated mid punch from gyuki, naruto isnt dodging unless he knows its coming, which he won't as obito has multiple bijuu to keep him distracted.

Bijuu are nothing to BSM naruto as his 1st usage in BM took them down rather easy like i said that barrier is never happening naruto can sense danger plus his sage senses also didnt naruto stop 5 tbb at point blank range killerbee little punches shouldnt be discussed dont know why you even brought it up.

Simple Obito just warps a clone making kamui useless he has no other clear way of killing them as the chakra shroud even deflected Maadara's Susanoo Magatamas

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Also reverse summoning is another counter Obito loses here med diff to bsm also naruto was able to tank a juubi laser witch turned mountains to dust and also destroy him and bee's Bijuu dama baragae on sight im sure a point blank bijuu dama barrage isnt taking him down
 

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Rinnegan Obito as in Obito himself with just the rinnegan.. no outside interference from the Bijuus or anything right?

If so KCM = Rinnegan Obito

BM > rinnegan Obito
BSM > Rinnegan Obito
 

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Bijuu are nothing to BSM naruto as his 1st usage in BM took them down rather easy

Without killerbee there to help the he would've been severely disadvantaged. [ ] He did not take them down easily but rather he needed gyuki's help.

& Chomei can also fly, tell me how naruto is even touching him when the last time it happened was because he was stunned? [ ]

Chomei simply flies higher this time whilst continuously spamming bijuudamas, sure obito can survive it but any clones will be toast & naruto himself will be having a rough time with the other 5 bijuu.

I also wanna mention that obito merely had 5 bijuu out that time, he has 6 this time.

like i said that barrier is never happening naruto can sense danger plus his sage senses also

Sensing wont help, the barrier was instant. It was activated before gyuki can finish his punch. [ ] While naruto is dealing with the bijuu obito easily sets it up.

didnt naruto stop 5 tbb at point blank range

No, he redirected the blast upwards. If he shoots a tbb at point blank range then he's hurting himself, not only that but the blast would be contained, as if naruto shot a tbb at the ground in a room essentially. If he breaks it oh well but naruto is getting injured whether you want to believe it or not.

killerbee little punches shouldnt be discussed dont know why you even brought it up.

Why am I not surprised that you missed the point..It wasnt the power of his punches I was referring to but the fact that the barrier was activated during said punch. Naruto does something like & that gives obito enough time to set up the barrier. The bijuu will force naruto to fight & if he tries to move then he gets trapped, no discussion.

Simple Obito just warps a clone making kamui useless he has no other clear way of killing them as the chakra shroud even deflected Maadara's Susanoo Magatamas

This is an absolutely terrible counter, obito isnt trapping a clone in the dimension when he can clearly tell which one is real due to the kurama avatar.

Obito isnt warping a clone, that's a fact. Show me a scan where obito accidentally warped a clone, he isnt dumb enough to fall for such a trick. Kamui is for the death blow, obito will wait for the perfect moment where he can warp the original.

And lets say that obito does warp a clone, all he has to do is regroup his paths, use guys, & warp them into the dimension along with himself. Having an enemy in the kamui dimension is his highest priority, he'll take care of them if he makes such a mistake & he'll know not to make it again. The original naruto can & will wait for him :cool:

Also reverse summoning is another counter

Wrong, you cannot use any kind of FTG/summoning in the kamui dimension in order to teleport out. A) kakashi would've been teleported out of the kamui dimension when minato used FTG. [ ] B) Obito knew that he could trap minato in the dimension, otherwise why bring the chains for capture & why even try to warp when he could've stabbed him with a weapon? Obito had knowledge on minato, he knew about the seals, so he knows that summoning/reverse summoning is not working. C) Kakashi explains that their jutsus are most likely connected when gyuki asks this very question. [ ]

Obito loses here med diff to bsm

Obito sh*ts, you still have nothing on kamui which phases through everything that naruto throws & if it gets too hairy then he simply phases underground & retreats, naruto is getting killed due to lack of a counter.

also naruto was able to tank a juubi laser witch turned mountains to dust and also destroy him and bee's Bijuu dama baragae on sight im sure a point blank bijuu dama barrage isnt taking him down

Not taking him down but its damaging him, to say otherwise is foolish. Bijuudama's hurt & he's going to be getting it right in the face due to the size of the barrier. During naruto's recovery obito can warp inside the shroud & warp him away.

Oh btw its a fact that obito can warp inside of the shroud, chakra is not solid & so it would be the same thing as obito warping underwater or simply in the air. Anyways all obito has to do is warp with one of in his hands, he activates his jutsu & kurama ends up like . In this situation all naruto can do is revert back to kcm mode or even his base mode but when he does that obito will have his bijuudama ready. [ ]

By the time the blasts have gone off obito is already intangible again. This turns naruto into nothing but dust as obito doesnt need to warp near naruto in order to do this so sensing it is rather useless. Obito's chakra is hidden until he appears so if he warps in the shroud with the active prior then there's absolutely no escape. [ ] This is GG for BM/BSM naruto.
 
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Naruto loses 1 and wins the rest by outlasting Obito.

Obito might be able to avoid Naruto's attacks but so can Naruto.

He already dodged a Kamui blitz despite being tired.
 

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Without killerbee there to help the he would've been severely disadvantaged. [ ] He did not take them down easily but rather he needed gyuki's help.
& Chomei can also fly, tell me how naruto is even touching him when the last time it happened was because he was stunned? [ ]
Chomei simply flies higher this time whilst continuously spamming bijuudamas, sure obito can survive it but any clones will be toast & naruto himself will be having a rough time with the other 5 bijuu.

I also wanna mention that obito merely had 5 bijuu out that time, he has 6 this time.

He only needed Killerbee because his bm was limited plus it his first usage Son goku is just a strong as the the rest he is also thrown around like a rag doll not like he would make a difference anyways Chomei wasit stunned just got thrown back by Naruto's shockwave none of the bijuu can breach the kurama cloak unless the charge a bijuu dama witch is not happening also Chomei flight is useless as naruto jumped also chakra Arms puts its flight to shame look at KM Minato's Chakra arms that thing is tooken down little to no effort Mind you naruto is in BSM 1 touch from him makes them usless as he can sense the rods instantly and take them out making them inmobile.

Sensing wont help, the barrier was instant. It was activated before gyuki can finish his punch. [ ] While naruto is dealing with the bijuu obito easily sets it up.
No, he redirected the blast upwards. If he shoots a tbb at point blank range then he's hurting himself, not only that but the blast would be contained, as if naruto shot a tbb at the ground in a room essentially. If he breaks it oh well but naruto is getting injured whether you want to believe it or not.
Why am I not surprised that you missed the point..It wasnt the power of his punches I was referring to but the fact that the barrier was activated during said punch. Naruto does something like & that gives obito enough time to set up the barrier. The bijuu will force naruto to fight & if he tries to move then he gets trapped, no discussion.

Once again the barrier argument is shit 8 tails fist is fast but no where near as quick as bijuu Damas in fired range bijuu damas let off at point blank range as hachibi says you can clearly see the bijuu damas had already let off plus naruto is about 80 feet away he hit 5 moving targets at that range kakashi Mistake it for Minato's ftg that barrier isnt happening also how does obito handle 5 KSM Clones?



This is an absolutely terrible counter, obito isnt trapping a clone in the dimension when he can clearly tell which one is real due to the kurama avatar.
Obito isnt warping a clone, that's a fact. Show me a scan where obito accidentally warped a clone, he isnt dumb enough to fall for such a trick. Kamui is for the death blow, obito will wait for the perfect moment where he can warp the original.
And lets say that obito does warp a clone, all he has to do is regroup his paths, use guys, & warp them into the dimension along with himself. Having an enemy in the kamui dimension is his highest priority, he'll take care of them if he makes such a mistake & he'll know not to make it again. The original naruto can & will wait for him :cool:

I was saying that if naruto kurama cloak wears off obito would & will warp a clone 1 he cannot tell the difference naruto can use BM or BSM clones plus naruto can have clones in the kurama avatar with him also their sensing abilities witch you are really overlooking you used the bijuu and every argument as if the arnt going down in the 1st 2 minutes of the fight Obito warping him is never happening to many clones to great of a sensor and he's just to fast.



Wrong, you cannot use any kind of FTG/summoning in the kamui dimension in order to teleport out. A) kakashi would've been teleported out of the kamui dimension when minato used FTG. [ ] B) Obito knew that he could trap minato in the dimension, otherwise why bring the chains for capture & why even try to warp when he could've stabbed him with a weapon? Obito had knowledge on minato, he knew about the seals, so he knows that summoning/reverse summoning is not working. C) Kakashi explains that their jutsus are most likely connected when gyuki asks this very question. [ ]

That is pure speculation but ill let you have that one but Obito knows little to nothing about FTG
Scan 1. He was surprised at ftg speed saying teleportation so he really is that fast
Scan 2. Surprised he came out of the kunai also didnt know he could come out the kunai.
clearly lacks info on ftg but i agree with you on this


Oh btw its a fact that obito can warp inside of the shroud, chakra is not solid & so it would be the same thing as obito warping underwater or simply in the air. Anyways all obito has to do is warp with one of in his hands, he activates his jutsu & kurama ends up like . In this situation all naruto can do is revert back to kcm mode or even his base mode but when he does that obito will have his bijuudama ready. [ ]

By the time the blasts have gone off obito is already intangible again. This turns naruto into nothing but dust as obito doesnt need to warp near naruto in order to do this so sensing it is rather useless. Obito's chakra is hidden until he appears so if he warps in the shroud with the active prior then there's absolutely no escape. [ ] This is GG for BM/BSM naruto.

Obito can warp inside the shroud all he wants but when he materilized he is hit also how would he know witch is the real naruto as he can have clones in the shroud with him also if knows witch one is the real one he will need to turn solid in order to warp he gets hit with RS Outer path chains has nothing on naruto he could possibly grab them with his tails like this

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