Naruto vs Full Health Itachi
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a couple things are obvious at this point
naruto can dodge amaterasu
and naruto can avoid genjutsu.
however we are unsure whether naruto can penetrate susanoo. im sure that maybe eventually he will if he strikes at it enough. in my honest opinion (im an itachi fanboy so this kinda goes against it) but in my opinion naruto would win.
naruto can dodge amaterasu
and naruto can avoid genjutsu.
however we are unsure whether naruto can penetrate susanoo. im sure that maybe eventually he will if he strikes at it enough. in my honest opinion (im an itachi fanboy so this kinda goes against it) but in my opinion naruto would win.
Blaze Release
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Yes. Chapter 558 just showed us what we all know. Naruto can spam clones because he has a huge chakra reserve.
Naruto no doubt has alot of chakra, but against a ninja of itachi's intellect one slip up and its game over because itachi has that strategic and logical thinking backed by his one hit k'o moves
lanakau888
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No we knew naruto can spam clones. We didn't know that naruto could spam clones that could take out kages, use multiple rasengan/rasenshuriken varients, chakra arms and the sort. And naruto's clones can even enter sage mode. On top of this, they all have third raikage level speed, possibly faster.
Naruto would beat itachi with just his KM clones.
Blaze Release
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Take out kages?. You are forgetting that, firstly those edo tensei arent as strong as when they were alive. Also they were being controlled, raikage due to his technique was used by kabuto to stall. Also you forget that it was a team effort, but also it was raikage's jutsu that beat him.
All youve said is too general, naruto no dobut holds the upper hand in chakra reserves and physical strength, but thats still isnt enough to beat somebody like itachi. Being a ninja isnt just about how much chakra you have, or how many clones in km you can create, its more than that. Itachi's skill, intelligence and jutsu's are superior to narutos.
Also regular clone or km clones they are just clones, if you hit them they would just disappear. Nobody had hit any of naruto's clones
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He can dodge Amaterasu, IF he notices it, so it's not like Naruto is gonna dodge every Amaterasu as if he can predict when Itachi will use it.
Did you just say Naruto Avoid Genjutsu?! lol.
Naruto always thinks he knows how to counter ITachi's Genjutsu, which i find hilarious because Itachi still gets him.
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This is Naruto thinking he knows all about Itachi's Sharingan, and thinking he's not gonna get trapped in Genjutsu Again.
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Watch him get caught anyway......
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Even if Naruto has fox to help escape Genjutsu, ALL Itachi needs is a second to kill him, once he's used Genjutsu on him. NAruto wouldnt have time to escape the Genjutsu, cuz he'll be dead. Itachi can just cut his throat, while Naruto is unaware he in a Genjutsu.
lanakau888
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I'll admit it was a team effort, but naruto being able to be the major contributor on the team when the team consists of two other kage's pretty much makes his clone kage level. And edo tensei's bodies are even stronger than their real body's. If the clone naruto went up against the real third raikage, his rasenshuriken would have at least damaged him, or screwed up his chakra network. He wouldn't have even needed to contact bee. If it was real muu, muu would have died from getting four holes in both of his stomaches.
Its not about how much chakra naruto has or how many clones he can make. From what we've seen he only can make upwards of fifteen in KM while in base he can make a thousand. Does that mean he is stronger in base than in KM? No. His KM clones are able to fight and even beat kage-level shinobi, use fuuton rasenshuriken, are immune to genjutsu, have super speed, and have naruto's current battle intelligence. And by the way, itachi will have to fight fifteen of these guys at once.
Lol, seeing that he didn't get hit fighting muu and the third raikage pretty much says that these KM clones are really damn hard to hit. Even in sage, his clone was able to blitz the third. Oh and if you read the last chapter, clone naruto blocks three swords with his arm, putting an end to the argument that shadow clones can't take any damage.
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Strata Uchiha
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It's not "what" Itachi has up his sleeve Naruto needs to worry about. It's "how" Itachi uses his jutsu. The dude is SO calculating as far as analyzing his opponent's moves.
Naruto loves spamming Rasengan, and he won't nail Itachi with it the first time.
Kakashi has always told him "Use a jutsu too many times, and the enemy will find out how to use it against you."
Itachi wins.
Naruto loves spamming Rasengan, and he won't nail Itachi with it the first time.
Kakashi has always told him "Use a jutsu too many times, and the enemy will find out how to use it against you."
Itachi wins.
lanakau888
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So you are pretty much saying "Itachi wins because he is shown to be smart and no matter what crazy powerup naruto will ever get whether it be a set of rinnegans, his own personal EMS's or the ability to go super saiyan, he will still lose because itachi is smart."
Okay, I concede.
Strata Uchiha
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Oh don't be like that man.So you are pretty much saying "Itachi wins because he is shown to be smart and no matter what crazy powerup naruto will ever get whether it be a set of rinnegans, his own personal EMS's or the ability to go super saiyan, he will still lose because itachi is smart."
Okay, I concede.
Kishimoto intentionally made Itachi one of the most "broken" characters on Naruto. Come on, he's more broken than Meta-Knight. Sorry...that's just the way it is.
lanakau888
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Sorry bro.
I just don't like it when people say itachi will somehow win because he is a genius. I can understand when characters are given broken abilities because we can sort of pit those abilities against others in order to see if one is a good counter for the other, and overall if shinobi A will triumph over shinobi B because of a concrete ability. Intelligence cannot be measured this way because it is not concrete, and if shinobi A is more intelligent than shinobi B, we then no matter what shinobi B has shinobi A is smarter and therefore will find a way to beat it. The same goes for battle experience.
I like to pit characters against each other and judge their performance by their abilities, or knowledge they have about their opponents. Everything else such as factoring battle experience/ intelligence is way to ambiguous to use in an already ambiguous debate: Naruto characters vs threads.
Blaze Release
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The reason naruto's clones are kage level is because he is also kage level, thats about it. Also you said edo tensei bodies are stronger than their real bodies?, WRONG. Their real bodies is stronger, the technique has a unique ability to repair any damage because its not their real bodies. What you said isnt enough to say that the fake is stronger than the original.
Also edo raikage or not naruto's wind rasengan would still not leave a scratch. When naruto used it on him, it didnt damage him at all for his body to repair itself like the other edo tensei ninja's, besides in his fight with the 8 tailed when he was alive he withstood a tbb which didnt leave a scratch, it was his technique that left that mark. Muu wouldve died though because as we saw he was regenerating due to edo.
Naruto's wind rasengan didnt do damage for the raikage edo tensei body to repair itself.
Naurto is no dobut more intelligent that he used to be but itachi can and will still outsmart him. Also you keep on saying km clone, as i said nobody got a direct hit on only of the clones, if they did they wouldve disappeared afterall they are still just clones. You said itachi would have to fight fifteen of these guys, not really. Not when they can disappear when physical contact is made or other means to make them disappear.
Also you said he didnt get hit by muu and the 3 raikage. Thats because they were being controlled. Secondly it wasnt a one on one fight, the previous kages were battles loads of people and hardly ever focused on attacking naruto's clones. Lets not forget the previous kages didnt want to help kabuto, they were instead helping the village alliance by telling them when they were about to attack/ their abilities/weaknesses.
If it was a one on one fight against any of the previous kages, you really think a naruto km clone could defeat them, with the previous kages willing to help kabuto instead of the village alliance, please. The clone wouldve been attacked and defused a long time ago.
In the last chapter naruto's clone held the attacks, it didnt hit him. Lets not try to make a clone more than it is. It is just a clone at the end of the day
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Hmm thinking logical i see that Itachi will beat Naruto even in the present state , man i think itachi had a disease so we havent seen the full powered Itachi yet because of his great powers in genjutsu and we know that Naruto cannot counter them and itachi is too smart and has some plot even if he does try to counter it ( which i feel is impossible ) , but anyways he will defat Naruto U_U , Naruto's big fan btw
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devojoyti halder
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Huh, so you think that dumb and hyperactive is god?? and can win everyone??:flaw:
First think, then talk.
naruto is totally dumb against genjutsu, and itachi is genjutsu type. itachi has many time caught naruto in genjutsu and viewed his hell.
and you think naruto can escape MS???
And now you still think naruto would win??? U_U
you are too dumb just like naruto:flaw:
Kira was Righteous
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Amatseru-Outran
Susanoo-Unbreakable with yata mirror
Tsyukami-Unbreakable apparently but its a genjutsu so it must abide by the laws of it stating that if you disturb your own chakra or have someone elses chakra put into you(9 tails) it should be broken...in theory
Looking at it logically i think naruto would outlast Itachi seeing as stamnia is his weakness especially with susanoos strain unless Itachi can paraylse naruto with his genjutsu which definitley isnt beyond the realms of possibilty then i forsee a win for the uzumaki clan
Susanoo-Unbreakable with yata mirror
Tsyukami-Unbreakable apparently but its a genjutsu so it must abide by the laws of it stating that if you disturb your own chakra or have someone elses chakra put into you(9 tails) it should be broken...in theory
Looking at it logically i think naruto would outlast Itachi seeing as stamnia is his weakness especially with susanoos strain unless Itachi can paraylse naruto with his genjutsu which definitley isnt beyond the realms of possibilty then i forsee a win for the uzumaki clan