Naruto Uzamaki: Officially the Worst Hokage?

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

1. Wasn't canon
2. Good point, I'll add to future post.
3. Good point.
4. There was only one Uchiha, that being Sasuke, and Sasuke and Naruto were back to being bffs before Naruto became hokage, so no point.

I give you an A for effort. Your setting a good example for these narutards.

@ bold - Lmao, how can you say that the movie's not canon, but the Boruto manga is link with the movie. They're even recreating the story in the new manga.

This post was a breath of fresh air in a field of bullshit. I agree with most of what you've said, but somethings are sort of iffy. Like not being able to blame Naruto for the fall of Konoha. As hokage, Naruto holds complete responsibility for the well-being of Konoha as its leader and, as the title says, "the strongest shinobi in the village". When countries suffer from terrorist attacks, we look to the president, government, etc. Is it right for people to lay complete blame on ex. Obama for a terrorist attack? Its not like he could have left the white house and 'seal team 6' the shit of them like he was rambo, but in Naruto's case, he is Konoha's rambo. (I hate the fact that I'm using rambo to make a point, lol). The end all be all, the final boss, head honcho, etc, etc...

If Naruto sucessfully defends Konoha against a threat, he should get due credit, the same way he should get full blame if he fails. The rest of your comment I agree with, for the most part.

You're forgetting Tsunade. During her reign Konoha was completely destroyed and a lot of people died. The only reason the enemy was defeated and people were brought back from the dead was because of Naruto and that all happened after she failed to protect Konoha.

 

[kimb]

@ bold - Lmao, how can you say that the movie's not canon, but the Boruto manga is link with the movie. They're even recreating the story in the new manga.



You're forgetting Tsunade. During her reign Konoha was completely destroyed and a lot of people died. The only reason the enemy was defeated and people were brought back from the dead was because of Naruto and that all happened after she failed to protect Konoha.

I didn't realize Boruto, was canon, my mistake. I'll add positive points from the movie to Naruto's rep in a future post.

I did not forget Tsunade, in the post I made two points her faults where she failed to defeat Pein and defend Konoha, and Konoha got destroyed while she held the title of Hokage. People think this is a bash thread. If there was a Hokage I'd want to bash It'd primarily be Tsunade, followed by Minato, and then Hiruzen in that order. I'm just taking advantage of the current chaos in transition to part III.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

I didn't realize Boruto, was canon, my mistake. I'll add positive points from the movie to Naruto's rep in a future post.

I did not forget Tsunade, in the post I made two points her faults where she failed to defeat Pein and defend Konoha, and Konoha got destroyed while she held the title of Hokage. People think this is a bash thread. If there was a Hokage I'd want to bash It'd primarily be Tsunade, followed by Minato, and then Hiruzen in that order. I'm just taking advantage of the current chaos in transition to part III.

Then why are you using a scene from the Boruto manga as points for your argument? If Boruto isn't canon, then why are you even saying that Naruto failed? Boruto not canon = No Konoha's destruction under Naruto's reign

I didn't realize Boruto, was canon, my mistake. I'll add positive points from the movie to Naruto's rep in a future post.

EDIT: How convenient....

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Fault Naruto for the destruction of the Village?

Let me think rationally for a second. I can't accurately judge Naruto's Hokage reign based on one single flaw, considering he has done more for the world than harm. He's kept most of the children of different nations save single handily, and yes, I mean single handily. Not an exaggeration, but a quote from the Movie which lists Naruto as the sole reason why the Five Nations are at peace.

Now looking back at the Boruto Manga spoilers, it seems as if Naruto was somehow 'taken down' and the Village is in ruins. What I can say it, it looks like peace was something you can never truly achieve, but that's just realistic and logical. There was no way man could remove evil intentions from people's hearts. Psychopaths are psychopaths, rapists are rapists, and murders and murders. Of course the Naruto series is more kid friendly that they won't step outside of those boundaries, but I never expected things to be totally okay. Now the funny thing is, Naruto didn't exactly fail, yet.

Naruto brought peace between the five nations - Is that correct, or not? Based on the spoilers, an unknown element (Kawaki) seems to be the one disrupting the peace that is already established. Wanting to remove the shinobi from the era, and probably start anew. Still I can't forcibly blame a single person for something he could not possibly stop. I don't know the details, it's pretty much just implied at best.

Still what I can say for certain is that Naruto is a Hokage who would risk his own life for his people. During the Boruto Movie, Naruto sacrificed himself so that the people could get unscathed from the enhanced Bijuudama that Momoshiki created after absorbing more power. What's to say that Kawaki didn't use a method where Naruto couldn't forcibly take him down due to being subjected by protecting his people at all cost?

Anyway, there's more to the story than meets the eye. I'd be a fool to state I know the obvious, when I don't. But that pretty much goes for everyone.

Indra you are wrong that Naruto brought Peace. Madara 's name which brought fear to the WHOLE SHINOBI WORLD united the Nations. Not Naruto. If it weren't for the War of Obito and Madara the 5 Nation would be still Villages that cared for themselves. It was the fear that united them. Nothing more. After that they saw because of the plot Naruto as a hope of light... Even before the War eneded Onoki said that he wouldn't go with the old ways because the villages were united because of the war.

Hashirama is the one that brought a temporary peace but he brought in the end without needing anyone's War so as to achieve it. To me Hashirama is still the best Hokage.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

OP is just dumb or another of those salty Naruto haters. I think its the latter....
Anyways Naruto has surpassed all the previous kages in every way possible, I give him a solid A++.

 

[Aznkidd]

What a stupid thread. Naruto did make everyone happy in the end and that is the point. He get infinite A

 

[King Of Pop]

i think people are taking this kawaki thing s bit too far. we dont have enough details on that incident to make an sort of conclusion, most of you have really jumped the gun.

anyways hiruzen for me is the worst.

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Maybe, wait for more answers before we judge.

Mikasa's A$$ deserves an A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.
*cough..OT: He is as big of a failure as hokage, Itachi was as a Brother. :sdo:
Take it as you want.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Name 10 undeniable pros to Naruto's reign has Hokage and I'll buy you premium. Hold me to my word.

that is easy as shit

1. sole reason all 5 nations are together (something the rest failed at)

2. the sole reason nobody hunts the tailed beasts

3. the sole reason nobody is sacrificed to create jinchuriki

4. the sole reason why joint chunin exams are now held

5. technology blooms under his rule...which advances anything the previous kage intituted

6. no attacks on the hidden leaf village as a whole (barring this new series which also happened under hashirama/hiruzen/minato/tsunade's rule)

7. protected the village from momoshiki and kinshiki's attack during the chunin exams (which is a big ****ing deal)

8. took 100+ clones with mangekyo sharingan under his watch (with help from sasuke uchiha of course)

9. has sasuke uchiha under control (which given sasuke's chapter 694 bullshit would have been a stupid future)

10. quelled the rebirth of akatsuki (which anyone would have seen coming a mile away given how kishimoto likes to rehash shit)

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Indra you are wrong that Naruto brought Peace. Madara 's name which brought fear to the WHOLE SHINOBI WORLD united the Nations. Not Naruto. If it weren't for the War of Obito and Madara the 5 Nation would be still Villages that cared for themselves. It was the fear that united them. Nothing more. After that they saw because of the plot Naruto as a hope of light... Even before the War eneded Onoki said that he wouldn't go with the old ways because the villages were united because of the war.

Hashirama is the one that brought a temporary peace but he brought in the end without needing anyone's War so as to achieve it. To me Hashirama is still the best Hokage.

by your logic naruto is better than hashirama since HE temporarily bought peace...also the 5 kage united against madara uchiha becaus they had no choice...did you miss chapter 696?...sasuke explained perfectly what would happen when this war was over:

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[kimb]

that is easy as shit

1. sole reason all 5 nations are together (something the rest failed at)

2. the sole reason nobody hunts the tailed beasts

3. the sole reason nobody is sacrificed to create jinchuriki

4. the sole reason why joint chunin exams are now held

5. technology blooms under his rule...which advances anything the previous kage intituted

6. no attacks on the hidden leaf village as a whole (barring this new series which also happened under hashirama/hiruzen/minato/tsunade's rule)

7. protected the village from momoshiki and kinshiki's attack during the chunin exams (which is a big ****ing deal)

8. took 100+ clones with mangekyo sharingan under his watch (with help from sasuke uchiha of course)

9. has sasuke uchiha under control (which given sasuke's chapter 694 bullshit would have been a stupid future)

10. quelled the rebirth of akatsuki (which anyone would have seen coming a mile away given how kishimoto likes to rehash shit)

1. Done before he was hokage
2. Done before he was hokage
3. Done before he was hokage
4. Point made +1
5. Point made +1
6. Barring this new series? Its canon, its in. no point.
7. Point made +1
8. What? I'll give you the point since it doesn't matter either way +1
9. Done before becoming hokage
10. Done WAYY before becoming hokage. The Akatsuki died with Nagato tbh.

4 outta 10. I was feeling pretty generous tbh. Should I give it to you anyways?

 

[kimb]

Maybe, wait for more answers before we judge.

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shuuueet.

 

[shelke]

All Hokages bar Tsunade and Naruto deserve a solid F.

Hashirama:

Presented gift-wrapped Bijuu and flung them across Nations like pieces of candy, whilst keeping the most powerful one for Konoha. These brothers didn't think about any repurcussions of this action? This was bound to escalate into an arms race, and they kicked started three Shinobi wars on this.

He appointed his own brother as a successor, abolishing democracy. What good did this guy do?

Tobirama:

The entire corruption of Shinobi system is on his head, as in the flashbacks we learn that every village copied his dictatorial governmental setup. Not to mention the Chunin exams where kids slaughtered each other to rise in ranks. He never put aside his bias towards the Uchiha clan and got them destroyed by appointing his own supporters (hardliners to be precise) to carry his torch of success on. He was the one to start the surveillance on the clan.

Hiruzen:

This guy never bothered to end the caste system within Hyuga clan. In fact, he offered an innocent man's head as a peace offering. He never offered Uchiha a position within the government. He kept them marginalized, in fact he planted another spy in their midst to escalate the situation.

Instead of offering the positon to the Uchiha, he first went to his one student, then the next, then to the next ... when all of them refused (one ran away), he offered it to his student's student. If that isn't a man adamant at intensifying the flames of conflict, then I don't know who is. He never punished Hiruzen for the slaughter of so many innocent children in the Uchiha Clan. In fact, he lauded the effort. And I am not even touching Root's activites here that went on right under his nose.

Tsunade and Naruto:

The only good Hokages here. Tsunade was much more realistic. She took away the control from the elders and gave more autonomy to the citizens. The only A grade material from the list.

Naruto is naive, but he is shown to try his level best to stay true to his promises. I really sympathized with his situation in Burt: The Movie: that kid is one annoying prick that needs to be put up for adoption. No questions asked. My point being, he is trying, at the very least.

Kakashi: Is this guy even relevant?

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

1. Done before he was hokage
2. Done before he was hokage
3. Done before he was hokage
4. Point made +1
5. Point made +1
6. Barring this new series? Its canon, its in. no point.
7. Point made +1
8. What? I'll give you the point since it doesn't matter either way +1
9. Done before becoming hokage
10. Done WAYY before becoming hokage. The Akatsuki died with Nagato tbh.

4 outta 10. I was feeling pretty generous tbh. Should I give it to you anyways?

actually shin uchiha tried to revive the akatsuki...so it's 5 outta 10...but still naruto is not the worst hokage...he is 2nd best at worst

 

[Char Aznable]

actually shin uchiha tried to revive the akatsuki...so it's 5 outta 10...but still naruto is not the worst hokage...he is 2nd best at worst

Shin Uchiha was an Akatsuki cosplayer. He found some leftover robes and decided to play dress up.

 

[To Whatever]

Sasuke gets a Z for getting negged along with Narutk and having a teen accomplish what he couldn't do when he was evil.

Smh My bou kawaki soloin dem boys

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

by your logic naruto is better than hashirama since HE temporarily bought peace...also the 5 kage united against madara uchiha becaus they had no choice...did you miss chapter 696?...sasuke explained perfectly what would happen when this war was over:

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I think you missed the part where I said that their ideology changes without Naruto's help. Onoki said that he that he wouldn't go with the old ways because the villages were united because of the war that Madara created. So they understood more about each other since they fought alongside and not because of Naruto. Sasuke didn't hear Onoki's words or the Raikage's...

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Shin Uchiha was an Akatsuki cosplayer. He found some leftover robes and decided to play dress up.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

I think you missed the part where I said that their ideology changes without Naruto's help. Onoki said that he that he wouldn't go with the old ways because the villages were united because of the war that Madara created. So they understood more about each other since they fought alongside and not because of Naruto. Sasuke didn't hear Onoki's words or the Raikage's...

you missed the point...the argument is the peace during naruto's reign as hokage...not during the fourth great ninja war

 

[King Of Pop]

actually shin uchiha tried to revive the akatsuki...so it's 5 outta 10...but still naruto is not the worst hokage...he is 2nd best at worst

sasuke is the one who soloed and stopped adult shin. you cant give naruto credit for that