Naruto Uzamaki- not Holding Back is KSM

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Rsm + kcm balbla la la

Its either kcm, bsm or rsm not BS with rsm+ kcm

Untill he shows rikoudo marks on his back and TSB he ha sused Rsm

Untill now NOT

Well at least it seem like u read the thread. This thread is a testament to lack of common sense to read before posting that exists on this base.
 

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When will people learn not to argue against Naruto fanboys?
 

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I'm sorry I read half and got a headache....shit is dumb
 

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I'm sorry I read half and got a headache....shit is dumb

Another member that can't be bothered to read a thread that is mostly pictures yet passes judgement.

I didn't call you anything. You're the one trying to debate with Naruto fans, but it's pointless.

To be honest i thought that there were at least some that would read and be able to reason properly, but sadly i was mistaken. Apparently they only know how to act on their first impulse and stick to nothing but defense regardless of reason when touched the wrong way.

My opinion of them was never this low :|
 
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Another member that can't be bothered to read a thread that is mostly pictures yet passes judgement.



To be honest i thought that there were at least some that would read and be able to reason properly, but sadly i was mistaken. Apparently they only know how to act on their first impulse and stick to nothing but defense regardless of reason when touched the wrong way.

My opinion of them was never this low :|

You know what helps people read your thread? Don't tell them "Read before Judge," because that will automatically make them judge. Also, don't call every person that doesn't agree with you dumb and say they didn't read the thread.
Some of these people who disagree with you obviously read the thread.
You are just not understanding the fact that when you post a theory, it will be challenged until absolute fact can be gathered.
Which is not something we can accomplish by simply arguing amongst people who challenge it.

The responders aren't stupid. Neither are you, obviously. So take your time and approach theories with an open mind.

Edit: I direct you to your own status
 
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*Reads thread, still thinks its a fail thread*

Now if only u could manage to post your counter argument
You know what helps people read your thread? Don't tell them "Read before Judge," because that will automatically make them judge. Also, don't call every person that doesn't agree with you dumb and say they didn't read the thread.
Some of these people who disagree with you obviously read the thread.
You are just not understanding the fact that when you post a theory, it will be challenged until absolute fact can be gathered.
Which is not something we can accomplish by simply arguing amongst people who challenge it.

The responders aren't stupid. Neither are you, obviously. So take your time and approach theories with an open mind.

Edit: I direct you to your own status

U mean the ppl that spoke completely contrary to what I stated in my thread. :|
I tell them that Naruto has RSM and that the last chapter proves it so they counter on the assumption that I say he lost it. Some even saying that they haven't read.

if u have problems with the thread then u should be able to voice your complaints while properly referencing it.

I have no problem with ppl disagreeing with me in fact I enjoy it
FYI just look at the first few posts and u will see y I put that disclaimer there
 
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Now if only u could manage to post your counter argument


U mean the ppl that spoke completely contrary to what I stated in my thread. :|
I tell them that Naruto has RSM and that the last chapter proves it so they counter on the assumption that I say he lost it. Some even saying that they haven't read.

if u have problems with the thread then u should be able to voice your complaints while properly referencing it.

I have no problem with ppl disagreeing with me in fact I enjoy it
FYI just look at the first few posts and u will see y I put that disclaimer there

Enjoying it or not, you might have more people truly thinking about your thread and maybe even agreeing with you if you didn't pay attention to those who choose not to read. If you truly think they are wasting your time then don't respond to them. Or if you do, do it in a way that doesn't make everyone think you automatically assume what you think or say is right.
 

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Enjoying it or not, you might have more people truly thinking about your thread and maybe even agreeing with you if you didn't pay attention to those who choose not to read. If you truly think they are wasting your time then don't respond to them. Or if you do, do it in a way that doesn't make everyone think you automatically assume what you think or say is right.

I get what u r saying. I never approach anything as if I know it all. If that is the way that I came off then I let my emotions get the best of me and I apologize.

That being said I don't think asking ppl to tell me exactly what they disagree with is a problem. :| That disclaimer was meant to show others that theve is more to this thread than the title
 
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i somewhat agree i liked the way you included the ninshu element into it good job
 

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Nice thread! I've been trying to explain this but the people on this base are simple minded. Naruto used RSM + KCM(Not full power), RSM + All bijuu chakra is his full power and thats the mode he used to battle Kaguya. :)
 

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I get what u r saying. I never approach anything as if I know it all. If that is the way that I came off then I let my emotions get the best of me and I apologize.

That being said I don't think asking ppl to tell me exactly what they disagree with is a problem. :| That disclaimer was meant to show others that theve is more to this thread than the title

In the years I've been on the base, I have seen countless pointless threads that start and end with the title.
The number of threads that are just "Itachi Solos" or "Sasuke is the solo God" or "Naruto does this like a boss," are countless.
Some base members have given up searching for fresh threads that don't end up being horrible threads filled with stupidity.
Especially now that Naruto and Sasuke are as strong as they are, there are so many Vs debate threads it isn't funny.
I remember when threads were about the "Masked Man," "Obito's Motivations," "Nagato's way of peace," "Jiraiya was a really cool character," etc. When threads reached for predictions and made massive amounts of truly ingenious ideas and notions about the series.
I remember someone predicting Itachi was going to end up being a good guy the night BEFORE the chapter where Itachi died! That was INSANE to me.
My point is, as threads become more predictable, more people just automatically assume people just want to troll for the sake of being annoying.
So good threads and actual theories get laughed off as some joke. We just have to shake it off and carry with us our hopes about the series as it evolves and hope our predictions are true. We may never know, but I continue to look every day for that prediction that will knock my socks off.

That is Naruto Base. Not Itachibase, or Sasukebase, or even Narutofanbase.
 
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Nice thread! I've been trying to explain this but the people on this base are simple minded. Naruto used RSM + KCM(Not full power), RSM + All bijuu chakra is his full power and thats the mode he used to battle Kaguya. :)

Thanks, I really appreciate it
In the years I've been on the base, I have seen countless pointless threads that start and end with the title.
The number of threads that are just "Itachi Solos" or "Sasuke is the solo God" or "Naruto does this like a boss," are countless.
Some base members have given up searching for fresh threads that don't end up being horrible threads filled with stupidity.
Especially now that Naruto and Sasuke are as strong as they are, there are so many Vs debate threads it isn't funny.
I remember when threads were about the "Masked Man," "Obito's Motivations," "Nagato's way of peace," "Jiraiya was a really cool character," etc. When threads reached for predictions and made massive amounts of truly ingenious ideas and notions about the series.
I remember someone predicting Itachi was going to end up being a good guy the night BEFORE the chapter where Itachi died! That was INSANE to me.
My point is, as threads become more predictable, more people just automatically assume people just want to troll for the sake of being annoying.
So good threads and actual theories get laughed off as some joke. We just have to shake it off and carry with us our hopes about the series as it evolves and hope our predictions are true. We may never know, but I continue to look every day for that prediction that will knock my socks off.

That is Naruto Base. Not Itachibase, or Sasukebase, or even Narutofanbase.

True, things have gotten really predictable and u have a point, but now I must take my leave :gn:
 

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I never said that RSM is involved in the gathering of Bijuu chakra, only that it is necessary to utilize it. Naruto had the bijuu chakras before talking to hagoromo yet he couldn't utilize their chakra

The reasons as to y it was not showcased are ur specualtions :|

Naruto didn't have all of the Bijuus chakra until right before he met Hagoromo and Bee had a small amount of the 8 tails chakra but it never showed him talking to Bee; it shows the 8 tails say he'll go back to Bee who is still alive after losing his Bijuu and being cut off via tentacle. Yin Kurama even mentions Naruto having all Bijuus chakra in him now then he called out their names to summon them , so him not using because he lacked all 9 Bijuu chakra makes the most sense.

Also RSM is a mode Naruto gained after receiving Hagoromo's Yang chakra just like how Sasuke's Rinnegan came from Hagoromo Yin chakra. How do we know Hagoromo gave Naruto yang and Sasuke yin chakra? Simple. Ashura represents Yang and Indra represents Yin as Obito said when he told the story to Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato. Hagoromo even said he gave them his chakra and didn't have enough to summon them back from Kaguya's dimension so needed the past Kages help. The Rinnegan is awakened when you have Indra (Yin) and Ashura (Yang) chakra to awaken Hagoromo's chakra (Yin Yang). Sasuke only has 1 Rinnegam because he only has Hagoromo's Yin chakra so Naruto does have Hagoromo's Yang chakra.

Naruto combines Hagoromo's Sage Senjutsu with Kurama's chakra for the mode, he doesn't need to use the Bijuus for that. He was in RSM even though he wasn't using them against Sasuke. So if he can use it against Sasuke then using it without the other Bijuus again shouldn't be an issue. Also Naruto is much stronger than he was before; KSM (full Kurama) is on BSM (Yang Kurama) level since it has double the chakra reserve and a much more powerful chakra. So BSM (full Kurama) power would be around war arc RSM (Yin Kurama) power. Also nothing says Naruto can't use the Bijuus chakra in his other modes or use Sage Senjutsu with KM or BM.
 

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The only thing that was stated in the DB is that Naruto received RSM and the Sun seal. We learn from Sasuke using black chidori that within those seals are Hagoromo's chakra. These are facts Indra. Naruto receiving Hagoromo's yang is only speculation. :| The manga never stated that Hagoromo was the one that summoned the bijuu, but seeing how the space that Naruto and Sasuke met hagoromo is his own space then it would make sense that he could bring the bijuu within it as well.

Now to the point. Naruto brought the bijuu together both in the sense that he united them and in the sense that he himself gathered all of their chakra and connected them to himself. Naruto using their names is key to his Ashura aspect (Ashura gained strength from his allies)

How does any of this disprove that Naruto had the bijuu connected to him in order to utilize their chakra
Oh My...

The seals gave nothing but the power to seal Kaguya, what-ever Naruto/Sasuke did with Hagoromo's chakra is permanent. Healing, and Senjutsu (black chidori if you will). Those powers are permanent until proven otherwise.

Naruto receiving Hagoromo's Yang and Sasuke receicving Hagoromo's Yin is obvious reading comprehension, nothing more.

Your last sentence is completely incorrect. Unless you can show where in the manga Hagoromo asked the Tailed Beasts for their power before he gave Naruto half of his own power, then you are wrong. There are no ifs, or buts here.
 

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Well explained Thread and the part people talking about in regards to you showing similarities between his fight with Shin and Kaguya. I wouldn't say he was going as serious like he was in the Fourth War due to the overextending circumstances then but at the same time he was serious enough not to underestimate the kid.

People should realize that and calm down lol.

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Oh My...

The seals gave nothing but the power to seal Kaguya, what-ever Naruto/Sasuke did with Hagoromo's chakra is permanent. Healing, and Senjutsu (black chidori if you will). Those powers are permanent until proven otherwise.

Naruto receiving Hagoromo's Yang and Sasuke receicving Hagoromo's Yin is obvious reading comprehension, nothing more.

Your last sentence is completely incorrect. Unless you can show where in the manga Hagoromo asked the Tailed Beasts for their power before he gave Naruto half of his own power, then you are wrong. There are no ifs, or buts here.

That is some denial there :what: how can u explain Naruto taking a Zetsu arm rather than simply regrowing his own if he has the power? We all saw how Naruto only used the hand with the seal to heal and us COAT. IMO that is reading comprehension reallyrics simple tbh.

Naruto receiving yang and Sasuke receiving yin is debateable. That picture in which they both received their powers along with the sun andon't moon mark also had the samsara split right down the middle symbolizing Naruto and Sasuke each receiving the half corresponding to their elements (yin/yang )

Y would Naruto need to have hagoromo ask the bijuu the bijuu for their power. Naruto is the gathering place so they can all meet within Naruto and their power can be expressed through him
Naruto didn't have all of the Bijuus chakra until right before he met Hagoromo and Bee had a small amount of the 8 tails chakra but it never showed him talking to Bee; it shows the 8 tails say he'll go back to Bee who is still alive after losing his Bijuu and being cut off via tentacle. Yin Kurama even mentions Naruto having all Bijuus chakra in him now then he called out their names to summon them , so him not using because he lacked all 9 Bijuu chakra makes the most sense.

Also RSM is a mode Naruto gained after receiving Hagoromo's Yang chakra just like how Sasuke's Rinnegan came from Hagoromo Yin chakra. How do we know Hagoromo gave Naruto yang and Sasuke yin chakra? Simple. Ashura represents Yang and Indra represents Yin as Obito said when he told the story to Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato. Hagoromo even said he gave them his chakra and didn't have enough to summon them back from Kaguya's dimension so needed the past Kages help. The Rinnegan is awakened when you have Indra (Yin) and Ashura (Yang) chakra to awaken Hagoromo's chakra (Yin Yang). Sasuke only has 1 Rinnegam because he only has Hagoromo's Yin chakra so Naruto does have Hagoromo's Yang chakra.

Naruto combines Hagoromo's Sage Senjutsu with Kurama's chakra for the mode, he doesn't need to use the Bijuus for that. He was in RSM even though he wasn't using them against Sasuke. So if he can use it against Sasuke then using it without the other Bijuus again shouldn't be an issue. Also Naruto is much stronger than he was before; KSM (full Kurama) is on BSM (Yang Kurama) level since it has double the chakra reserve and a much more powerful chakra. So BSM (full Kurama) power would be around war arc RSM (Yin Kurama) power. Also nothing says Naruto can't use the Bijuus chakra in his other modes or use Sage Senjutsu with KM or BM.

I will tackle this much later. I have work in an hour
 
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