Naruto Uzamaki- not Holding Back is KSM

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DO NOT COMMENT IF U CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO READ THE THREAD
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^This is Naruto being serious autoplay , not this
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Now before the fanboys rage hear me out. Naruto still has RSM. The last chapter proved it when Naruto was without the TSM marking, and yes I do mean full on TSB RSM, but here is something that a lot of ppl don't get. What Hagoromo gave Naruto is this
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^This is RSM

This mode is Naruto utilizing the RSM that Hagoromo gave him to utilize all of the bijuu chakra
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I believe a lot of you don't get that this mode is Ninshuu based
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^Here the bijuu have all come together inside Naruto as a result he can use all of their chakra. Naruto as brought out here.
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Is a meeting place. Naruto possesses a small piece of each bijuu's chakra and this allows for the bijuu to gather using Naruto.

Now to go back to my point in the beginning, Naruto facing Shin was not holding back. Naruto's full power is Kurama and being Naruto's power is Kurama's job,
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In viz it says look after, but hopefully i won't get anyone to challenge me on this point. The bijuu separated and each went their own way to live their own life. Naruto isn't going to call the bijuu back every time he fights, in fact it would probably have to be a grave emergency for him to use that mode again.

So, to summarize.
Naruto's own full power without calling to the bijuu is Kurama Mode using Rikudou sage mode.

Full RSM is based off of Ninshuu and involves him calling for the other eight bijuu

Naruto for good reasons doesn't call for the bijuu to solve his own problems

If u guys have a disagreement with anything i said let me know ok =D
 
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didnt even read, naruto never even moved from the same spot, everything you put in your thread is meaningless and was a waste of your time
 

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First, RSM is not created through the combination of all Bijuu Chakra.

Second, Naruto wasn't being serious. He only stated that he can't go easy on the kid because of the Mangekyo Sharingan. Then they power up.

So Naruto was holding back against Kaguya but went all out against Shin?
Someone please rep this guy ._.
 

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didnt even read, naruto never even moved from the same spot, everything you put in your thread is meaningless and was a waste of your time

So Naruto was holding back against Kaguya but went all out against Shin?

Neither of u read anything so u dont want to discuss anything. If that is true then pls leave. This thread was meant purely for discussion

First, RSM is not created through the combination of all Bijuu Chakra.

Second, Naruto wasn't being serious. He only stated that he can't go easy on the kid because of the Mangekyo Sharingan. Then they power up.


Someone please rep this guy ._.

So u can manipulate different chakra natures without having the chakra present in your own body? :|

9 Tomoe on the jacket and 9 TSB form on the back of the user and besides Naruto the only way to achieve this mode is to become the juubi jin which has the power of all nine bijuu. :|

Yep the bijuu r totally unrelated :|
 
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So u can manipulate different chakra natures without having the chakra present in your own body? :|
I don't know how many times Hagoromo/Kishimoto or Naruto have to state that he has their chakra permanently. It doesn't deplete, on the sole fact that it can't. Theortically impossible when Hagoromo stated that he was the meeting place for them, and will always be their meeting place. It isn't just because he has their chakra, the minute he was Rikudou enhanced, he was able to talk to and use their powers, something that the old Naruto could not do without physically meeting them first (aside from using their powers). Gaining his powers gave him the ability to house their powers infinitely.

The rest of your post is pure speculation, if you want me to tell you why it is wrong, then ask away
 

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I don't know how many times Hagoromo/Kishimoto or Naruto have to state that he has their chakra permanently. It doesn't deplete, on the sole fact that it can't. Theortically impossible when Hagoromo stated that he was the meeting place for them, and will always be their meeting place. It isn't just because he has their chakra, the minute he was Rikudou enhanced, he was able to talk to and use their powers, something that the old Naruto could not do without physically meeting them first (aside from using their powers).

The rest of your post is pure speculation, if you want me to tell you why it is wrong, then ask away

I never said anything about the bijuu chakra depleting :|

I said that Naruto is still able to talk to the bijuu and use their chakra, but that he simply chooses not to. I simply said that Naruto going into RSM involves him gathering the bijuu within him.

So tell me y am i wrong
 

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First, RSM is not created through the combination of all Bijuu Chakra.

Second, Naruto wasn't being serious. He only stated that he can't go easy on the kid because of the Mangekyo Sharingan. Then they power up.

RSM is basically Hagoromo's Chakra combined with the Chakra of the Nine Bijuu. It's basically an evolved version of the Six Paths Ten Tails Coffin Seal which you get from being the Juubi Jin and the Nine Bijuu basically equal out the Juubi.

I do agree though that if Naruto was serious there wouldn't be an Akatsuki considering he really only would need to go Sage Mode to beat Shin.
 

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I never said anything about the bijuu chakra depleting :|

I said that Naruto is still able to talk to the bijuu and use their chakra, but that he simply chooses not to. I simply said that Naruto going into RSM involves him gathering the bijuu within him.

So tell me y am i wrong
Because RSM is not involved with the Bijuu's chakra gathering, it's purely Rikudou Mode and Kyuubi chakra.

The reason why it was not showcased here was because:

A. Overkill
B. Lower form of the same exact principles.

Similar to how KCM, and BM operate. Kishimoto basically said that with Naruto saying: "Only a little bit"


RSM is basically Hagoromo's Chakra combined with the Chakra of the Nine Bijuu. It's basically an evolved version of the Six Paths Ten Tails Coffin Seal which you get from being the Juubi Jin and the Nine Bijuu basically equal out the Juubi.

I do agree though that if Naruto was serious there wouldn't be an Akatsuki considering he really only would need to go Sage Mode to beat Shin.
From portrayal in the Manga, it only uses the Kyuubi's chakra. Kishimoto basically says that within itself as Naruto turns on RSM with the flame kanji which represents KCM/BM power forms.
 
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Because RSM is not involved with the Bijuu's chakra gathering, it's purely Rikudou Mode and Kyuubi chakra.

The reason why it was not showcased here was because:

A. Overkill
B. Lower form of the same exact principles.

Similar to how KCM, and BM operate. Kishimoto basically said that with Naruto saying: "Only a little bit"

I never said that RSM is involved in the gathering of Bijuu chakra, only that it is necessary to utilize it. Naruto had the bijuu chakras before talking to hagoromo yet he couldn't utilize their chakra

The reasons as to y it was not showcased are ur specualtions :|
 

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I never said that RSM is involved in the gathering of Bijuu chakra, only that it is necessary to utilize it. Naruto had the bijuu chakras before talking to hagoromo yet he couldn't utilize their chakra

The reasons as to y it was not showcased are ur specualtions :|
Exactly. Which is why Rikudou's chakra gave Naruto the ability to do so.

We see Naruto performing in Base RM (when he threw the Lava RS at JJ Madara/Shinju Tree) using the Tailed Beasts chakra.
 

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Exactly. Which is why Rikudou's chakra gave Naruto the ability to do so.

We see Naruto performing in Base RM (when he threw the Lava RS at JJ Madara/Shinju Tree) using the Tailed Beasts chakra.

And yet the bijuu were all gathered inside Naruto through that connection provided by their chakra which only proves my point :|

Be serious with me Indra did u read my thread?
 

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And yet the bijuu were all gathered inside Naruto through that connection provided by their chakra which only proves my point :|

Be serious with me Indra did u read my thread?
Not at all. Hagoromo was the one who summoned the Tailed Beasts, not Naruto. If you were actually following the story, the Tailed Beasts came because of the Child of Prophecy nonsense, which alluded that a boy would bring the Tailed Beasts together, which Naruto did by making them share their names to him and all that Jazz.

Naruto received Hagoromo's Yang power, and it's purely Hagoromo's chakra/Senjutsu.
 

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Not at all. Hagoromo was the one who summoned the Tailed Beasts, not Naruto. If you were actually following the story, the Tailed Beasts came because of the Child of Prophecy nonsense, which alluded that a boy would bring the Tailed Beasts together, which Naruto did by making them share their names to him and all that Jazz.

Naruto received Hagoromo's Yang power, and it's purely Hagoromo's chakra/Senjutsu.

The only thing that was stated in the DB is that Naruto received RSM and the Sun seal. We learn from Sasuke using black chidori that within those seals are Hagoromo's chakra. These are facts Indra. Naruto receiving Hagoromo's yang is only speculation. :| The manga never stated that Hagoromo was the one that summoned the bijuu, but seeing how the space that Naruto and Sasuke met hagoromo is his own space then it would make sense that he could bring the bijuu within it as well.

Now to the point. Naruto brought the bijuu together both in the sense that he united them and in the sense that he himself gathered all of their chakra and connected them to himself. Naruto using their names is key to his Ashura aspect (Ashura gained strength from his allies)

How does any of this disprove that Naruto had the bijuu connected to him in order to utilize their chakra
 
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He held back actually, That Sage Mode he did to Shin, that is his current base. Believe it!

Stare+Not Moving is enough for an MS Shin + Mini Jubbi to shit at their pants and blitz run kamui dimension.
 

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He held back actually, That Sage Mode he did to Shin, that is his current base. Believe it!

Stare+Not Moving is enough for an MS Shin + Mini Jubbi to shit at their pants and blitz run kamui dimension.

I don't think u get what base means :|
 

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Rsm + kcm balbla la la

Its either kcm, bsm or rsm not BS with rsm+ kcm

Untill he shows rikoudo marks on his back and TSB he ha sused Rsm

Untill now NOT
 

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its pretty dumb naruto didnt call on the bijuus in the last when the world was about to end lol. infact they werent even in it :/
 
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