naruto top tiers are all around the same in speed

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I love how sasuke never uses his swap ability to that extent after this fight. now he only uses it like subsitution

 

[Dantee]

No feats? The attack looked like a stream of light, so what do you mean by no feats to back it up, coz madara did use the attack

It just seems exagerrated like temerai blowing away the universe.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Naruto have FTL reaction speed bcus he can reacted to Madara's light fang attack but failed to avoided cleanly Sasuke attempt to chidori him from behind after Amenotejikara in VOTE 2 battle despite having FTL reaction speed and Rikudou sensing power.

Couldnt you see the absurdity inside your logic or your persistent in backing up Naruto character speed(FTL) feats in here Uchihakil?

 

[Uchihakil]

It just seems exagerrated like temerai blowing away the universe.

Exaggerated? Come on now, its not a fodder technique, its jj madaras, afterall kcm naruto is faster than raikage (who is as fast as lightning), that's just kcm, we have BM (have no idea if it boasts his speed) but BSM definaely boasts his speed further, and RSM naruto who is much faster, so how is that exaggerating? You can clearly see the attack as being a stream of light, how is that exaggerating, we see naruto dodging teleported ash bone, and also reacting to sasuke with teleportation, how is that exaggerating, naruto and sasuke crossing country in mere seconds (from lightning country to konoha valley of the end) in base, so tell me hows that exaggerating

 

[Uchihakil]

Naruto have FTL reaction speed bcus he can reacted to Madara's light fang attack but failed to avoided cleanly Sasuke attempt to chidori him from behind after Amenotejikara in VOTE 2 battle despite having FTL reaction speed and Rikudou sensing power.

Couldnt you see the absurdity inside your logic or your persistent in backing up Naruto character speed(FTL) feats in here Uchihakil?

Just so you know, sasuke is almost as fast, plus uses teleportation, and that was'nt me

 

[Dantee]

Exaggerated? Come on now, its not a fodder technique, its jj madaras, afterall kcm naruto is faster than raikage (who is as fast as lightning), that's just kcm, we have BM (have no idea if it boasts his speed) but BSM definaely boasts his speed further, and RSM naruto who is much faster, so how is that exaggerating? You can clearly see the attack as being a stream of light, how is that exaggerating, we see naruto dodging teleported ash bone, and also reacting to sasuke with teleportation, how is that exaggerating, naruto and sasuke crossing country in mere seconds (from lightning country to konoha valley of the end) in base, so tell me hows that exaggerating

I think NAruto characters are extremely fast but sound speed at best. We've seen Kishis writing and how he always writes himself in a corner. Sasuke in p1 dodged light speed haku and thats all manga facts. Kishi is forever contradicting himself. IF Light fang had more feats or there were more attacks in the manga that were said to be that quick and were dodged I would be inclined to agree. But I personally don't believe any NAruto character is on par w. light speed or have those type of reactions. Naruto characters have great sensory because sharigan and sm sensing but light speed is a stretch. IF you want to persist it would make sense by just what is written in the DB and not in the manga so we can agree to disagree.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Just so you know, sasuke is almost as fast, plus uses teleportation

Do you know how fast is light and how fast you can react to the close proximity attack in the short distance if you have FTL reaction speed? You can react to Sasuke's chidori attack from behind in an instant. in short distance any FTL speed movement look like instant do you know that?

Its like someone try to attack FTG user but here it was FTL speedster in short distance. They will poof instantly bcus it too fast(FTL) although not on FTG level(instant)

Naruto with FTL reaction speed can avoid Sasuke attack instantly and untouched. But different thing happen(he look struggling) in manga bcus Naruto reaction speed was not FTL at all.

 

[Uchihakil]

Even the likes of sakura crossed continent while chibaku tensei was forming ( a moon sized chibaku) in mere seconds, so I dont think I'm exaggerating anything here

 

[Ansatsuken]

Even the likes of sakura crossed continent while chibaku tensei was forming ( a moon sized chibaku) in mere seconds, so I dont think I'm exaggerating anything here

Can cross a continent not mean they are light speed level or sub-relativistic. Dont think to far. Read a science magazine about hyperspeed first before sub-relativistic and higher. For the most part they can avoided(including Sakura) continent level CT ripped apart country to continent size land is thanks to their massive hypersonic speed. That's how far the speed they can achieved.

And Im asking you. Why it takes too long for Sakura and Kakashi to arrive to the place where Sasuke and Naruto fight when she capable of avoiding continent size CT in mere second?

 

[Uchihakil]

I think NAruto characters are extremely fast but sound speed at best. We've seen Kishis writing and how he always writes himself in a corner. Sasuke in p1 dodged light speed haku and thats all manga facts. Kishi is forever contradicting himself. IF Light fang had more feats or there were more attacks in the manga that were said to be that quick and were dodged I would be inclined to agree. But I personally don't believe any NAruto character is on par w. light speed or have those type of reactions. Naruto characters have great sensory because sharigan and sm sensing but light speed is a stretch. IF you want to persist it would make sense by just what is written in the DB and not in the manga so we can agree to disagree.

That's underating at its finest, base hashirama was outrunning a bijuu dama that can cross seas in few seconds casually, xters that have s/t techs, toneri can dish out an attack that extends with a greater length than the moon in a second (who is weaker than madara) which was calculated to be 3 digit mach, so I dont get the exaggerating part

 

[Dantee]

That's underating at its finest, base hashirama was outrunning a bijuu dama that can cross seas in few seconds casually, xters that have s/t techs, toneri can dish out an attack that extends with a greater length than the moon in a second (who is weaker than madara) which was calculated to be 3 digit mach, so I dont get the exaggerating part

Im not an expert on calculating speed. If you really think so based on calculations you could be right.

 

[Uchihakil]

Do you know how fast is light and how fast you can react to the close proximity attack in the short distance if you have FTL reaction speed? You can react to Sasuke's chidori attack from behind in an instant. in short distance any FTL speed movement look like instant do you know that?

Its like someone try to attack FTG user but here it was FTL speedster in short distance. They will poof instantly bcus it too fast(FTL) although not on FTG level(instant)

Naruto with FTL reaction speed can avoid Sasuke attack instantly and untouched. But different thing happen(he look struggling) in manga bcus Naruto reaction speed was not FTL at all.

And in any manga, we have said inconsistencies, and sasuke won't appear slow because he is equally as fast as naruto or close to, but has ameno to aid him

 

[Uchihakil]

like enel being as fast as lightning and luffy been able to hit him (luffys attacks are far slower than lightning at that time), gohan and krillin taking almost an hour or so to reach bulma while moving at top speed and many others, inconsistencies like these happen

 

[Ansatsuken]

And in any manga, we have said inconsistencies, and appear slow because he is equally as fast as naruto or close to, but has ameno to aid him

At bold. That the weakest reason people gave to support their believe in here and other places.

INCONSISTENCY

Because inconsistency all this speed is hard to determined. How inconsistency can help to established their actual speed limit? You tell me?

To established the feats of the character in any categories(power, speed, strength etc), inconsistency should not be part of it.

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Your statement:-

"and appear slow because he is equally as fast as naruto or close to, but has ameno to aid him"

That point. If Sasuke is FTL also, why he need to used Amenotejikara to avoided Madara's Senpo Inton Raiha(you know the black lightning attack Madara used) and not his FTL reaction speed?

 

[Ansatsuken]

There are more digits in the measures before we reach sub-relativistic(near light speed), light speed, FTL and MFTL.

 

[Uchihakil]

At bold. That the weakest reason people gave to support their believe in here and other places.

INCONSISTENCY

Because inconsistency all this speed is hard to determined. How inconsistency can help to established their actual speed limit? You tell me?

To established the feats of the character in any categories(power, speed, strength etc), inconsistency should not be part of it.

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Your statement:-

"and appear slow because he is equally as fast as naruto or close to, but has ameno to aid him"

That point. If Sasuke is FTL also, why he need to used Amenotejikara to avoided Madara's Senpo Inton Raiha(you know the black lightning attack Madara used) and not his FTL reaction speed?

That's how he decided to evade because kishi wants to show us the power sasuke got, naruto stopped it with his rod before it hit'em, its like saying why did obito use kamui to phase through kibas attack when he can move outta the way, that's not how it works, if they keep dodging techniques we won't see other techniques like why did neji use rotation againt a kunai when it was thrown at him and many more examples

 

[Ansatsuken]

That's how he decided to evade because kishi wants to show us the power sasuke got, naruto stopped it with his rod before it hit'em, its like saying why did obito use kamui to phase through kibas attack when he can move outta the way, that's not how it works, if they keep dodging techniques we won't see other techniques like why did neji use rotation againt a kunai when it was thrown at him and many more examples

Bold. Thats another weak excuses. You speaking like there was no other room or chapters to show his new ability. Come on dude.

He(Sasuke) never show any FTL speed in entire manga. The example I gave is one of the proof. Same as Naruto here.

 

[Uchihakil]

Using the air tubes implanted in his palms, Zaku can control the ratio of air pressure and sound via chakra. By propelling this combination, he can release supersonic blasts of air. These blasts are powerful enough to destroy stone, and can also be used to soften the ground. By increasing air pressure to 100% and reducing sound waves to 0%, the blasts can be used to deflect thrown kunai.[1]

Okay this attack is from a genin called zaku, its super sonic attack, and sasuke casually dodged it while holding both sakura and naruto (sasuke did'nt even undergo the lee training at that point) that's genin sasuke casually dodging a supersonic attack while carrying two people

 

[Uchihakil]

Bold. Thats another weak excuses. You speaking like there was no other room or chapters to show his new ability. Come on dude.

He(Sasuke) never show any FTL speed in entire manga. The example I gave is one of the proof. Same as Naruto here.

There is a difference between reaction speed and footspeed, I never said sasuke nor naruto nor any xter in naruto has ftl speed, they are just below lightspeed though

 

[Ansatsuken]

Using the air tubes implanted in his palms, Zaku can control the ratio of air pressure and sound via chakra. By propelling this combination, he can release supersonic blasts of air. These blasts are powerful enough to destroy stone, and can also be used to soften the ground. By increasing air pressure to 100% and reducing sound waves to 0%, the blasts can be used to deflect thrown kunai.[1]

Okay this attack is from a genin called zaku, its super sonic attack, and sasuke casually dodged it while holding both sakura and naruto (sasuke did'nt even undergo the lee training at that point) that's genin sasuke casually dodging a supersonic attack while carrying two people

Yeah and above supersonic is hyper sonic after that is massive hypersonic and so on

If you try to prove that Sasuke is FTL or LS or relativistic bcus he can avoid super sonic attack from your post/explanation above, try harder.