Naruto Storyline: An analysis.

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It is a great analysis, but it was not the type of Naruto timeline analysis I thought it would be. I thought you would be talking about the literacy devices that make the timeline what it is and how the author was going to use that to explain the events happening in the Naruto storyline. Nevertheless it is a great look into the characters, and the lack of the author’s handling of such characters. +Rep.
Well, I tend to focus more on every character's background, actions and so on and on understanding better their respective behaviour.

Hmm, regarding the analysis you said it thought it would be, well... never thought at that before but, who knows... Maybe next time I'll have some free time as I did this time, I will be capable of doing such an analysis as well. :)

Thanks for the rep and for taking your time to read it and reply to it! :)
 

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I agree about tsunade and sakura. They get so much unnecessary hate. People are constantly saying they hope Sakura dies in the war, as well as saying that Tsunade is the weakest of the sannin, Sakura is useless as a ninja

....They act like they literally have no feats. Guess what people, Sakura beat Sasori and Tsunade kicked a lot of ass in the war and established the entire medical ninja system so....you fail.

Though i would say kishi doesn't really focus on the female ninjas very much at all, and has established the male ninjas as a much more dominant force. This is a common theme in a lot of movies/mangas and the like in popular culture though. That's just the truth of sexism.
 
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I agree about tsunade and sakura. They get so much unnecessary hate. People are constantly saying they hope Sakura dies in the war, as well as saying that Tsunade is the weakest of the sannin, Sakura is useless as a ninja

....They act like they literally have no feats. Guess what people, Sakura beat Sasori and Tsunade kicked a lot of ass in the war and established the entire medical ninja system so....you fail.

Though i would say kishi doesn't really focus on the female ninjas very much at all, and has established the male ninjas as a much more dominant force. This is a common theme in a lot of movies/mangas and the like in popular culture though. That's just the truth of sexism.
As I've stated before, people just do that because they're used to like characters with overpowered jutsus and stuff like that.

They say that Sakura only beat Sasori just because of Chyio, when Chyio herself stated that after a point, Sakura read Sasori's fightin patterns and defeated him herself and in the mean time also taking care of Chyio.

As well goes for Tsunade who is a great medical nin and was able to keep an entire village safe.

Out of the Sannins she is in the middle, because it was clearly stated that she is stronger than Orochimaru (that's why he searched for her help) but also weaker than Jiraya while he was less stronger than Orochimaru.

It was a balance between the 3 of them. The simple rule of Toad, Slug, Snake...

But no, usually people have an infatuation for powerful characters as they like to somehow transpose their weakness in their fav. character's powers.

Is somehow simple psychology.

But oh well...

As for Kishi's sexism, is well known that he lacks at dealing with female characters. But it's ok in the end, I like them both as they are. They're not perfect, in the end even the most powerful character has its flaws. :)
 

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The good thing: Sasuke, Akatsuki and Madara are...evil. And the evil ones have to be strong otherwise it would be boring so it's not talent but fortune :>
The good side has the really strong ninjas! ^-^
 

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The good thing: Sasuke, Akatsuki and Madara are...evil. And the evil ones have to be strong otherwise it would be boring so it's not talent but fortune :>
The good side has the really strong ninjas! ^-^
 

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The good thing: Sasuke, Akatsuki and Madara are...evil. And the evil ones have to be strong otherwise it would be boring so it's not talent but fortune :>
The good side has the really strong ninjas! ^-^
Well, yeah, that's a good thing, I won't deny. But dunno, the whole stuff with some less powerfull characters even though they're on the good side, kinda annoys me.
Hopefully Kishi will keep his promise and make them all work together and prove they are useful, as he said he will do.
 

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hey Chatte , so much positive views on sakura (yours), still you said Kishi was sexist , why?(it's very disrespectful)
maybe he had better thoughts than your best veiws on female characters.
every body feels so much about characters, don't you think for a second that those are his characters and how much he wanted to develop them, when he wanted to write a story
there are many factors, he must have started with a good idea of all story, and created other characters to support the story.(may be the publishers may have pressure on him or even if give good powers to people like neji they cannot be as OP as the main characters intially he thought of )
+rep for your positive views( i genereally give rep without posting it in thread)
 
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hey Chatte , so much positive views on sakura (yours), still you said Kishi was sexist , why?
maybe he had better thoughts than your best veiws on female characters.
every body feels so much about characters, don't you think for a second that those are his characters and how much he wanted to develop them, when you want to write a story
ther are many factors he must have started with a good idea of all story, and create other characters to support the story.(may be the publishers may have pressure on him or even if give good powers to people like neji they cannot be as OP as the main characters intially he thought of )
+rep for your effort( i genereally give rep without posting it in thread)
I gave my reasons why I said Kishi is a sexist.
And as almost anyone knows he, himself declared that when it comes to powerful female characters he doesn't know how to handle them.

I mean, if you look at all the female characters, almost all of them have flaws in personalities.

I am aware of the fact that they are his characters and I also explained about criticism, constructive critisim, of course!

I agree that the characteres cannot be as OP as the main ones, but if you compare them, the power balance isn't exactly, well.. balanced in a proper way.

Anyway, these were my thoughts regarding the series until now.
Maybe along the road I will change it.
Still waiting to see how things progress.

And thank you for taking your time to read and post! :)
 

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Sakura's put on the spot line a lot because she's the main heroine in Naruto. Although Kishimoto started neglecting her around the time they met Sasuke for the first time in Shippuden. Well at least Kishimoto said that "everybody's favorite character will play a part!", which probably hints towards the Konoha rookies.
 

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Sakura's put on the spot line a lot because she's the main heroine in Naruto. Although Kishimoto started neglecting her around the time they met Sasuke for the first time in Shippuden. Well at least Kishimoto said that "everybody's favorite character will play a part!", which probably hints towards the Konoha rookies.
To be honest, I can't wait!
Not only for Sakura but for all of them.
I wanna see Hinata more badd-ass but with her same personality. I wanna see in Hinata the same determination I saw in Sakura in the battle against Sasori.

As well I don't want to see Neji trolled. He was (and still is) amongst my faves ever since the beginning. Now he's put in the back.

As well as Kiba and Shino, they deserved a lot. I mean, Shino fought Kankuro really well in part 1, imagine a battle between them now.

As well as Kiba, he needs more screen-time. I loved in Part 1 the battle with the twin demons.

We need more of these things to be honest.

LE: She wasn't meant to be the heroine in the first place, Hinata was meant to be. So for a character that wasn't meant to be a heroine I find her pretty good, in my opinion, of course.
 

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Poor Neji didn't even get a speech in Chapter 573. Even Tenten was able to say something.
Really, sometimes it's just gettin' on of my nerves.
I mean, I also like TenTen and I would love to see more about her as well, she is a weaponry master, she should be pretty bad-ass as well, yet all we see is just spamming kunais and stuff.

It's not right, really.
 

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To be honest, I can't wait!
Not only for Sakura but for all of them.
I wanna see Hinata more badd-ass but with her same personality. I wanna see in Hinata the same determination I saw in Sakura in the battle against Sasori.

As well I don't want to see Neji trolled. He was (and still is) amongst my faves ever since the beginning. Now he's put in the back.

As well as Kiba and Shino, they deserved a lot. I mean, Shino fought Kankuro really well in part 1, imagine a battle between them now.

As well as Kiba, he needs more screen-time. I loved in Part 1 the battle with the twin demons.

We need more of these things to be honest.

LE: She wasn't meant to be the heroine in the first place, Hinata was meant to be. So for a character that wasn't meant to be a heroine I find her pretty good, in my opinion, of course.
A lot of the characters from part one have been largely ignored in part 2. Kiba, Shino, Neji, Hinata, Lee, they have all pretty much been ignored. Naruto was more enjoyable when more characters were playing a role an having their own battles.

Not that we're in the war arc, they are trying to focus on shinobi from all of the nations. This doesnt leave much time for the leaf ninja that we have been watching since part one.

One of my favorite arcs is when everyone goes to try and rescue sasuke, and fight the sound 5. So many good battles there.

I agree about Neji, he got trolled hard, along with hinata. The byakugan is supposed to be one of the great 3 dojutsu but it looks comparatively weak compared to the sharingan and rinnegan.
 

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A lot of the characters from part one have been largely ignored in part 2. Kiba, Shino, Neji, Hinata, Lee, they have all pretty much been ignored. Naruto was more enjoyable when more characters were playing a role an having their own battles.

Not that we're in the war arc, they are trying to focus on shinobi from all of the nations. This doesnt leave much time for the leaf ninja that we have been watching since part one.

One of my favorite arcs is when everyone goes to try and rescue sasuke, and fight the sound 5. So many good battles there.

I agree about Neji, he got trolled hard, along with hinata. The byakugan is supposed to be one of the great 3 dojutsu but it looks comparatively weak compared to the sharingan and rinnegan.
Actually, that's what got me into Naruto, the whole part 1. If it wouldn't have been for that, probably today I wouldn't have watched Naruto.
And I agree, Sasuke retrieval arc was sooo bad-ass! I so enjoyed it! That's the Naruto I wanna see. I mean, ok, I like it as it is now, but it lack in action and character focus to be honest.

Regarding the Byakugan, God! Got trolled as hell. Kishi left the impression on part 1 that it was even stronger than the Sharingan and now is so uncomparably weaker than the sharingan.

To be honest, out of the 3, Byakugan is my favourite if I take it that way. The least impressive for me is the Rinnegan. Out of the 3, the Byakugan seems the most bad-ass in my opinion.
 

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kishi isnt a sexist hes just telling it how it is. in modern society and throughout history men tend to be the more dominant powerful gender. of course there are exceptions but thats how it is. sorry. and sakura at no point in the entirety of the series was the best member of team seven.
 

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kishi isnt a sexist hes just telling it how it is. in modern society and throughout history men tend to be the more dominant powerful gender. of course there are exceptions but thats how it is. sorry. and sakura at no point in the entirety of the series was the best member of team seven.
In modern society I wouldn't say that, women have increased a lot.
As for the history, yeah, I know, you are right but in a world where power is based on chakra molding, I find it sexist, not to mention the personalities. That's what I was reffering at.

As for Sakura, when it came to techniques and chakra control and inteligence, fast learning, she was always the best, as stated by Kakashi himself. :)
 

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To be honest, I can't wait!
Not only for Sakura but for all of them.
I wanna see Hinata more badd-ass but with her same personality. I wanna see in Hinata the same determination I saw in Sakura in the battle against Sasori.

As well I don't want to see Neji trolled. He was (and still is) amongst my faves ever since the beginning. Now he's put in the back.

As well as Kiba and Shino, they deserved a lot. I mean, Shino fought Kankuro really well in part 1, imagine a battle between them now.

As well as Kiba, he needs more screen-time. I loved in Part 1 the battle with the twin demons.

We need more of these things to be honest.

LE: She wasn't meant to be the heroine in the first place, Hinata was meant to be. So for a character that wasn't meant to be a heroine I find her pretty good, in my opinion, of course.
Hinata more bad-ass *-* I wish that would happen! (already mentioned that she is totally my fav) and yeah at the beginning it was "clear" that the byakugan is stronger than sharingan. Rin'negan was impressive but what could be cooler than blocking your enemys chakra? ;)
 

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Hinata more bad-ass *-* I wish that would happen! (already mentioned that she is totally my fav) and yeah at the beginning it was "clear" that the byakugan is stronger than sharingan. Rin'negan was impressive but what could be cooler than blocking your enemys chakra? ;)
Now that I think, Byakugan is very underrated. As many jutsus and stuff happen thanks to chakra, imagine that all those stuff like Susanoo, Paths of Pein, Bijuu Mode and stuff would be nothing if a Byakugan user was to close chakra points. Even the special chakra, like in the case of bijuu. Imagine an upgrade like that. xd

Though I am Kinda neutral on the Sakura part! Some very valid points! Great Effort :)
Thank you very much!
Well, I did those parts of Sakura/Tsunade because I consider a lot of unnecessary hate towards them and just tried to make people understand them better. :)
 

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In theory you could destroy Susano'o with Byakugan as long as Juken can cut chakra buildings which Susano'o is....massively uchia pwn :>
 
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