Naruto should've Abolished his own Hokage Dream

[lndra]

Pretty sure nothing will change in this upcoming adaption.

Boruto will end Kawaki, or he'll live, happily ever after. Sarada becomes Hokage, Boruto her right hand man.

The end.

 

[Michael92]

"Then eventually the world will have no need for ninja. A world where they are not needed is the true end-game to peace." - Shikamaru (Hiden)

[...]it's like how the old traditions of samurais in japan were conflicted with the new industrialization, there is something admirable about the old ways even though they seem trivial now.

This all reminds me of something that was said in the Sengoku Musou anime that I saw not long ago. Whether this line was rooted in historical accuracy I'm not sure, but during one of the episodes, Ieyasu Tokugawa says the following to Tadakatsu Honda;

"[...] In the days to come, Samurai must be able to survive beyond the battlefield. If we truly desire to put an end to warfare, and bring about a peaceful world, we must rid ourselves of our fighting spirit."

And when questioned what a Samurai then should do by Tadakatsu, Ieyasu replies "Administration."

In other words, in order for true lasting peace to happen, the era of the Samurai needs to end, and I suppose that quote from Shikamaru Hiden could be inspired by this quote if it is indeed based on something Ieyasu actually said, at least it sounded similar, just replacing Samurai with Shinobi.

 

[To Whatever]

Why does no one get the concept of peace after all these years..


Sasuke entire monologue pretty much sums it up.

 

[awesomeseimei]

There are only a few known rules:



I don't remember where he said about disliking these particular rules but really these are pretty basic instructions that mostly need to be followed in all the armed forces( except Jiraiya ones which are moe related with general ethics). What would you changed these rules to?

I was mostly referring to this part:

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And the rules were referenced by Sakura when she started crying (when she thought Sasuke was dead). Naruto then decided that he would find his own nindo and it was a nice character-defining moment. But then, there weren't many references to this system. It was brought up with Sai, but then they only ended up resolving Sai's personal problem. But was there ever a resolution to this general shinobi system issue? Or do ninja still live "with that ideal always bubbling beneath the surface"?

 

[Quanta]

But are the villages still militarized? Naruto is already working with the kages to maintain peace, how would that create a cycle of hatred if there's supposedly no conflict? Are you suggesting some sort of central government uniting the villages? I do agree there needs to be much less emphasis on power when it comes to choosing a leader.

 

[ninjarasengan]

The whole concept of Kaguya arriving from off planet makes this idea terrible.

 

[MomoSaka]

Pretty sure nothing will change in this upcoming adaption.

Boruto will end Kawaki, or he'll live, happily ever after. Sarada becomes Hokage, Boruto her right hand man.

The end.

Your reaction if they ended up just like Naruto and Sasuke...?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

This all reminds me of something that was said in the Sengoku Musou anime that I saw not long ago. Whether this line was rooted in historical accuracy I'm not sure, but during one of the episodes, Ieyasu Tokugawa says the following to Tadakatsu Honda;

"[...] In the days to come, Samurai must be able to survive beyond the battlefield. If we truly desire to put an end to warfare, and bring about a peaceful world, we must rid ourselves of our fighting spirit."

And when questioned what a Samurai then should do by Tadakatsu, Ieyasu replies "Administration."

In other words, in order for true lasting peace to happen, the era of the Samurai needs to end, and I suppose that quote from Shikamaru Hiden could be inspired by this quote if it is indeed based on something Ieyasu actually said, at least it sounded similar, just replacing Samurai with Shinobi.

Samurai, ninja, mecha-pilots. All fictional representations of militarised culture, I think it's awesome and absolutely the true way to peace. Shame that Shikamaru and Itachi had to say it in side novels as opposed to Naruto doing it at the end of the manga.

Great comparison.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

But are the villages still militarized? Naruto is already working with the kages to maintain peace, how would that create a cycle of hatred if there's supposedly no conflict? Are you suggesting some sort of central government uniting the villages? I do agree there needs to be much less emphasis on power when it comes to choosing a leader.

The strongest of all 5 Villages got appointed Hokage for being powerful war heroes, not by being the best at leading or government. Naruto is at least a good mascot for a leader but seems to be inept at the paperwork/balancing of duties, which is why he has Shikamaru- who is essentially the other Hokage, even babysitting Naruto into the Kage seat.

 

[Quanta]

The strongest of all 5 Villages got appointed Hokage for being powerful war heroes, not by being the best at leading or government. Naruto is at least a good mascot for a leader but seems to be inept at the paperwork/balancing of duties, which is why he has Shikamaru- who is essentially the other Hokage, even babysitting Naruto into the Kage seat.

I agreed the leader should not be chosen based on fighting power. Using other criteria to a certain extent would discourage violence and help maintain peace. I was asking about other aspect of the system i.e. village segregation. When Naruto become hokage it doesn't seem to be likely to cause conflict.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I agreed the leader should not be chosen based on fighting power. Using other criteria to a certain extent would discourage violence and help maintain peace. I was asking about other aspect of the system i.e. village segregation. When Naruto become hokage it doesn't seem to be likely to cause conflict.

True true, still feel like a new Hokage wasn't even necessary post-war with the formation of the Alliance. Shikamaru, Darui, Chojuro, Kakashi and Mei all formed a kind of European Union sort of deal.

I also meant Kage instead of Hokage in that previous post. Darui, Kuro and Naruto clearly were appointed by power, by the old rules. Resulting in ninja like Shikamaru getting shafted again.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Naruto was never an anti-institution person, only a maverick. You're assuming Naruto can arbitrarily decide how every other country is going to operate just because he's a war hero when in reality he's still a grunt for the Fire Lord. They're the ones who ultimately have the political authority to outright dissolve the institution, plus all of the feudal lords throughout the story preferred a powerful person being the village leader so they didn't have to worry about their investment being adequately protected.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Naruto was never an anti-institution person, only a maverick. You're assuming Naruto can arbitrarily decide how every other country is going to operate just because he's a war hero when in reality he's still a grunt for the Fire Lord. They're the ones who ultimately have the political authority to outright dissolve the institution, plus all of the feudal lords throughout the story preferred a powerful person being the village leader so they didn't have to worry about their investment being adequately protected.

You're telling me the central figure who united the world and inspired megalomaniacs and deeply rooted war mongers to join forces could just stop there?

Accepting Hokage position alone is doing damage and continuing some level of conflict, if lesser.