[Game] Naruto Shippuden Mafia Game #43

[Gutsy]

@Ekkologix if your town vote waluigi he slipped that a mason visited a killed target xd

outed scum

@Gutsy @Kirikoe @Rohan @Stargate18

Wait wait what did i miss? i am so confused?

 

[Gutsy]

can you show me?

 

[Naomi_]

Wait wait what did i miss? i am so confused?

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did you just slip??

@AnimePigeon

i do, but it useless.

read my quote, his quote in there.

 

[Naomi_]

@AnimePigeon vote waluigi

you have 2 votes on you atm.

 

[Gutsy]

I need a more in depth explanation because im new to the game so i dont understand all the mechanics.

 

[Naomi_]

I need a more in depth explanation because im new to the game so i dont understand all the mechanics.

waluigi came in stating he had mech on animepigion, and he was somewhere last night.

he implied this.

which is impossible for anime pigion, because he my mason partner. we don't visit anyone at night.

 

[Waluigi]

Yes I did imply that, I was waiting for him to confirm he went nowhere.

If he did, I would have unvoted. That's all.

 

[Gutsy]

waluigi came in stating he had mech on animepigion, and he was somewhere last night.

he implied this.

which is impossible for anime pigion, because he my mason partner. we don't visit anyone at night.

so it means that you and animepigeon are mason?

 

[Naomi_]

Yes I did imply that, I was waiting for him to confirm he went nowhere.

If he did, I would have unvoted. That's all.

nice try, but you outed town for no reason when they went no where.

instead of going for scum who visit town at night.

 

[Naomi_]

so it means that you and animepigeon are mason?

yes

 

[Waluigi]

In any case, that makes it rather simpler to solve the game out, thank you for finally claiming.

should be clear.

Waluigi
Naomi
Animepigeon

Reasons to town read, can contain a wolf.

Stargate
Ekkologix
Kirikoe

lighter town reads.

Big Boss
Rohan
Gutsy

I think the unpairing analysis will sort out the exact team at this point.

I don't think the bottom 3 is the exact team, nor do I think the middle group is uninfiltrated but it will take isoing everyone to get there.

 

[Waluigi]

nice try, but you outed town for no reason when they went no where.

instead of going for scum who visit town at night.

So we're going to eliminate the town investigator instead of a wolf today?

 

[Waluigi]

Playing it this way was the only way to leverage not having a useful result on someone.

I need them to confirm they went nowhere to even get them to tell the truth.

*shrug*

If either of you had just claimed earlier there wouldn't have been an issue.

 

[Waluigi]

Vote: Waluigi

See my flip, reassess tomorrow I suppose.

 

[Waluigi]

I do not want to be in final 7 eliminate or lose, alive, with this kind of suspicion on me.

Don't worry about it too much, just hit a wolf.

Be aware they can steal your powers.

 

[AnimePigeon]

I think this is very reasonable as a process.

I am not big on pressure voting but I will do so here, @AnimePigeon

Vote: AnimePigeon

This vote will be removed if you cooperate with my inquiry. I just need you to explain where you were last night (and night 1) and what you were doing there.

Your posts speak in a tone as if you are speaking down to others, not in a disrespectful manner, but as if you've done/achieved something this game to garner a level of plausible deniability of the fact that you are a Wolf. Trying to reduce the amount of tmi (too much information - typically associated with wolves that inherently start with more information even if the information is more implied in nature from smaller information being given at start)

That may be a difference in player style. Some people vote for pressure.

I, notably, don't believe in that, 90+ percent of the time. I think votes should be to kill, and placed carefully for that reason.

Otherwise it can be like, when wolves distance from one other, the extra vote movements only confuse the situation and demonstrate that the intentions are less than serious.

This is one of the only times I even pressure vote.

For an individual such as yourself @Waluigi that suggests they don't like or struggle to abide senseless pressure voting... you sure seem to do a lot of this one thing that you hate.

Please play to your win condition and, if town, do not give the wolf team additional votes.

It's fine to not self preserve on a round before eliminate or lose, but it does (respectfully, and in a friendly tone-) cause a lot of hardship on me, and I'm trying hard to win for town.

You can do anything you want if you are mafia. If you are town, do what Sia says, and

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The above linked post feels more like a Chant for a Sports Team, not something I would necessarily expect from a Townie, but this is exactly the sort of drivel that Wolf's typically associated with being Townie.

99% of Townie's, don't "try hard" (not they don't try, but they don't "try hard" - think of a Competitive Gamer, they will tend to "try hard" in a game they are winning or losing, whereas a Average Player can't just flip a switch to unleash there potential/ability - it just innately happens unprompted/unprovoked) to be "Townie" but on the flip-side 99% of Wolf's hard "Town-Side" in discussions to create the perception of a progressed narrative, discourse or immitate logical reasoning, which ultimately is driven by the fact those Wolf's have TMI.

It's easy for a Townie to appear clueless, but difficult for a Wolf (especially one with any level of ego) to replicate this stance. Essentially due to the lack/abundance of TMI for Townies/Wolves respectively.

Are you still with us, Naomi?

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Also- one thing I want people to brace for, is that townies are going to find each other a little suspicious here.

We've been guessing wrong all game. It's natural that townies who voted for townies are going to look suspect to other townies.

It's important to stay calm, clear-headed, and rational.

It's okay if someone suspects you, it's not the end of the game, or even their final decision. They can change their mind, don't overreact.

Speaking from experience-
Town often collapses and destroys itself if we don't proceed with caution, and concern that our fellow player might still be town anyway even if they guess us wrong.

It's still as I said yesterday- we have a lot of wrong answers crossed off now. It should be like shooting fish in a barrel to hit a mafioso today. There aren't many places to hide.

And every single time you guess a townie is town correctly, there's even fewer spaces for them to hide.

The constant pushing from Waluigi to remind us all to "don't give up", "dig in deep" feel very odd to me. A few times is fine, but I feel a large part of there performance this game has been asking for people to muster some inner power & retrieve Sir Arthur's Sword from the Stone to slay some Dastardly Wolves.

Any usual Townie wouldn't have an incessant nagging/niggling need to constantly bring this up.

Okay.

When so many folks jumped onto my suggestion of Hunty, and Hunty never showed or self-preserve voted, that read like what was about to happen.

My alternative there was to jump on stargate18, or create a three way tie. Didn't seem like the wisest move to do at the last second, and on no discussion.

Please note, there are 9 players alive.

Traditionally there are 3 mafia in a game this size. That means that today is considered "final nine", typically, eliminate correctly or lose the game happens Tomorrow Day, which is Day Four.

That means we are one wrong guess away from a serious problem.

4 townies versus 3 mafia, is the smallest town can get, before town loses. That would be tomorrow, if things go poorly today.

We have 6 townies and 3 mafia, most likely.

There's strategy behind this situation, specifically, "the day before the day you can't guess wrong or you lose."

There's a term for it, eliminate correctly or lose Minus One Day, shortened to "Elim/lose -1"

Sounds kind of specific, but here is how it works. If we were to hold on to our secrets until tomorrow, meaning, our roles and information, what ends up happening is the mafia team can just tell lies, and there's not enough time to punish them if we believe their lies once.

Here, there IS time. So, this is generally the day when a full "mass claim" happens, because tomorrow is mechanically too late. There's no margin for error.

So, if you're new to these kinds of games, today is the day when we should claim our roles and information, cop checks if we have them, hidden information.

You are not allowed to quote your role PM, but you can say what sort of role you are and what youve been up to all game.

If you're town with no powers, it's good to say so, if you have powers that you haven't claimed yet, today is the last day to do so and still be believed.




I strongly believe it is to everyone's (town) benefit to claim our powers and power usage from night one onward.

@Big Boss Man

please claim your information, I would like to start with you specifically.

This final post I highlight feels like a piece of smartly crafted "Damage Mitigation" that would be fitting of someone being a Speechwriter in a Government Administration.

It seems to lack any real consideration for finding wolves, but more to try & defend against any backlash should Waluigi prove to vote incorrectly as they are "only human".

 

[Waluigi]

It should be noted im the only claimed town investigative role.

It's pretty bad to hit me, but I understand if folks don't normally play setups with investigators.

 

[Lucidus]

Vote: Waluigi

See my flip, reassess tomorrow I suppose.

This is unlike you.

You made it very clear that we shouldn't self vote and should keep voting. like you mentioned, if we are town why give wolfs those extra votes they need?

 

[Waluigi]

Yeah, I can't work with that above post.

I am fine to be removed from the game just so I don't need to try to work with someone posting stuff like that.

 

[Gutsy]

Vote: Waluigi

See my flip, reassess tomorrow I suppose.

wal, the self-vote is pure AtE and it helps wolves more than town. if you’re town-JOAT, unvote and put your exact N2 tracker result on record plus when you learned the MD was stolen; your earlier “AP was somewhere” implication just outed a mason pair for zero gain, and I’m not voting them today. your buckets are fine as a starting point, but process clears, not vibes. on content and wagon play my elim today is The Big Boss, naked wolf lists, “join us” herding, calling early votes sus then instantly temp-voting AP, and pivoting off his Rohan/Stargate sell the moment a new pressure target appeared. Rohan stays my #2 if the doc claim holds. if you want town to read you, give receipts, not a martyr flip.