[Game] Naruto Shippuden Mafia Game #43

[Waluigi]

Damn, I am inactive for like 15 minutes doing something else and it all pops off!

I need to start opening multiple tabs so I can keep track of this a bit better..

I am noticing interesting directions this discussion is taking us, but also yes! as Waluigi said don't take anything in this chat personally! It is a RP game and everything in this game is never done with malice.

(Unless I lynch Gutsy, then its absolutely Malice)

i like you, so much. I hope we play future games together.

 

[Gutsy]

i get the “working relationship,” but hitting rohan/stargate wouldn’t auto-clear tbb, wolves bus. what clears him is process, not a lucky hit. right now his pushes are mostly labels. can you (or he) point to the exact posts that make the rohan/stargate cases? if the doc claim holds my lean is tbb > rohan; if it breaks i’ll move to stargate. still want the hunty wagon join order too so we can see who piled on after your call.

 

[Waluigi]

Your posts are very high quality which takes time to read.

My posts are very wordy, yes.

That's a very polite way of saying that, and it made me genuinely laugh out loud.

 

[The Big Boss]

Better phrasing might be, why are you town.

Why is he voting so early? lol

very sus.

save my wolf list.

 

[Waluigi]

i get the “working relationship,” but hitting rohan/stargate wouldn’t auto-clear tbb, wolves bus. what clears him is process, not a lucky hit. right now his pushes are mostly labels. can you (or he) point to the exact posts that make the rohan/stargate cases? if the doc claim holds my lean is tbb > rohan; if it breaks i’ll move to stargate. still want the hunty wagon join order too so we can see who piled on after your call.

I think this is very reasonable as a process.

I am not big on pressure voting but I will do so here, @AnimePigeon

Vote: AnimePigeon

This vote will be removed if you cooperate with my inquiry. I just need you to explain where you were last night (and night 1) and what you were doing there.

 

[The Big Boss]

I think this is very reasonable as a process.

I am not big on pressure voting but I will do so here, @AnimePigeon

Vote: AnimePigeon

This vote will be removed if you cooperate with my inquiry. I just need you to explain where you were last night (and night 1) and what you were doing there.

Vote: AnimePigeon

Temp

 

[Waluigi]

Why is he voting so early? lol

very sus.

save my wolf list.

That may be a difference in player style. Some people vote for pressure.

I, notably, don't believe in that, 90+ percent of the time. I think votes should be to kill, and placed carefully for that reason.

Otherwise it can be like, when wolves distance from one other, the extra vote movements only confuse the situation and demonstrate that the intentions are less than serious.

This is one of the only times I even pressure vote.

 

[Waluigi]

I dont want a big wagon on Anime, 2 votes is plenty.

@The Big Boss

End of day tomorrow in less than 26 hours, you will be available to move vote, right?

So if Anime looks clean, there's zero votes on AP?

 

[Waluigi]

My role is like a JOAT, aka jack of all trades.

At the start of the game I had a 1 time bodyguard power. Bodyguards can protect someone else, but they die, instead, so it's weaker than a doctor.

I felt, if I was being protected by a doctor, that would negate it. So I protected stargate18 myself, just in case he really was a doctor. Stargate18 was not attacked, because apparently, protecting me wouldn't have done anything, I still would have died if stargate was shot directly. In 17 years, I've never been a bodyguard, so i didn't know how they worked.

I also had a 1 time motion detect power. This allows you to see if someone visited someone else, or if someone visited your target. In other words, it tells you if there was activity that night, either someone using a power on your target, or your target using a power. It's a very weak kind of investigation. So I didn't use it.

And I also had a 1 time tracker power. This allows you to follow someone, and see where they ended up.

I used this one on night 2, last night. Which is why I'm asking AnimePigeon to claim what they did, to everyone.

If they are being honest and truthful, I can verify their location last night. If they tell a lie, I will know.

Why am I out of shots?

Because last night, my motion detect was stolen from me. I have nothing else.

@Naomi_

You didn't claim your role, I assume you have one at this point, I just wanted you to be aware of this claim.

@Ekkologix

Please claim now, since AP declined to do so.

 

[Gutsy]

I’m fine pressure-checking AP, but let’s keep it clean: two votes max until we have an actual result to compare. Wal, if you want zero wiggle, pre-commit your track now (hash it or DM Michelle), then have AP claim—after that, reveal and we match. Also, @TBB, this is exactly what worries me: you called early voting “sus” and then instantly dropped a “temp” vote on AP the moment Wal did, after spending the day selling Rohan/Stargate. That reads like riding momentum, not a case. If AP is actually your suspect, show the receipts; if not, get off and pick a lane.

 

[Gutsy]

i still believe in this:


Town:
AnimePigeon: Pushed back on the easy momentum and specifically shaded ekko and the big boss, instead of just riding along. To me that feels more like trying to solve the game.

Stargate: claimed doctor and acknowledged by you Waluigi, took alot of heat for it. I would treat as town for now.

Kirikoe: Actively directing votes and explaining priorities. His reads feel consistent even if they are wrong.

Wolf:
The big boss: on both town eliminations (Rej and Hunty) and openly decided they wanted future day kills to be stargate and rohan.

Rohan: Also voted on both eliminations, the hop on to hunty is thin (posted very less and are wolfy) and opportunistic following the herd.

Ekkologix: Day one on Rej, Day two heavily drove Stargate and Hunty as paired mislynch pool. The result flipped town, and it reads as easy framing after night one kills. Pattern fits scum pushing low resistance wagons.

Unsure:
Waluigi: Big driver of consolidation, deliberately avoided being on both mis eliminatyions, instead put presasure on stargate. Cold be town shepherd or scum steerring outcome without fingerprints. Keep in mind.

Naomi: Low footprint in what we currently see here, no alignment signbals whatsoever.

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If it is up to me this would be my focus and elimination order:
The Big Boss -> Rohan -> Ekkologix (wolf pool).
If one of htem flips town, I would reassess Waluigi.


That is my general read of the current situation.

 

[The Big Boss]

Not sure the wolves care about pigeon one way or the other. He is a low poster.

 

[Lucidus]

I will see where this goes, there is a clear issue here but I will wait.

If what Walugi is saying is true then I want to see the direction this goes and what comes of it

 

[Gutsy]

I’m voting The Big Boss for process, not personality. He’s pushed naked “wolf” lists (803), treated “accusing me D3 is all I need to hear” as a case (806), tried to self-clear and herd (“join Waluigi and myself,” 809–811), and framed policy (“lazy townies will be treated like wolves,” 808). Tonight he called early voting “sus” (864) then instantly slapped a temp vote on AP the moment Waluigi did (866), after spending the day selling Rohan/Stargate, that’s momentum-riding, not solving. Add the martyr AtE (“my death might unify town”) and attempts to curate who I can suspect, plus his positioning on prior miselims, and the throughline is agenda over receipts. Vote: The Big Boss. If you want me off, bring two quotes per suspect (Rohan/Stargate or AP) that are actually wolf-indicative and a flip tree for each world; until then, my vote stays.

Vote The Big Boss

 

[Lucidus]

Not sure the wolves care about pigeon one way or the other. He is a low poster.

Low poster doesn't always mean inactive.

This is what I meant early on when I mentioned wolves tend to try and fade into the background. Minimal posting means its easy for people to forget they exist. this often allows them to glide by quite easily.

 

[The Big Boss]

I’m voting The Big Boss for process, not personality. He’s pushed naked “wolf” lists (803), treated “accusing me D3 is all I need to hear” as a case (806), tried to self-clear and herd (“join Waluigi and myself,” 809–811), and framed policy (“lazy townies will be treated like wolves,” 808). Tonight he called early voting “sus” (864) then instantly slapped a temp vote on AP the moment Waluigi did (866), after spending the day selling Rohan/Stargate, that’s momentum-riding, not solving. Add the martyr AtE (“my death might unify town”) and attempts to curate who I can suspect, plus his positioning on prior miselims, and the throughline is agenda over receipts. Vote: The Big Boss. If you want me off, bring two quotes per suspect (Rohan/Stargate or AP) that are actually wolf-indicative and a flip tree for each world; until then, my vote stays.

Vote The Big Boss

My death will only bring your downfall.

 

[Waluigi]

I’m voting The Big Boss for process, not personality. He’s pushed naked “wolf” lists (803), treated “accusing me D3 is all I need to hear” as a case (806), tried to self-clear and herd (“join Waluigi and myself,” 809–811), and framed policy (“lazy townies will be treated like wolves,” 808). Tonight he called early voting “sus” (864) then instantly slapped a temp vote on AP the moment Waluigi did (866), after spending the day selling Rohan/Stargate, that’s momentum-riding, not solving. Add the martyr AtE (“my death might unify town”) and attempts to curate who I can suspect, plus his positioning on prior miselims, and the throughline is agenda over receipts. Vote: The Big Boss. If you want me off, bring two quotes per suspect (Rohan/Stargate or AP) that are actually wolf-indicative and a flip tree for each world; until then, my vote stays.

Vote The Big Boss

@The Big Boss

You've played plenty of games I would assume, so I wouldn't need to give you unsolicited advice.

What I would ask you to do is treat Gutsy as if they were a confirmed clear and the game is riding on whether or not your answers are honest, and villagery.

Just explain yourself to the jury, meaning everyone else.

That's best practices and would help me maintain the town read on you, if that is something desirable to you.

 

[Gutsy]

My death will only bring your downfall.

A threat

 

[Waluigi]

My death will only bring your downfall.

Spoiler: top secret information

My man Big Boss here, you have some banger one-liners this game.

 

[The Big Boss]

@The Big Boss

Question- before my claim, did you suspect AnimePigeon at all?

Sorry for not just checking this myself. I just wanna know if the suspicion is based on.... crossing people off as town, or my claim, or something AP did prior to my claim.

It's helpful for me to lock you down as town.

Pigeon did nothing for most of the game on purpose.

I do find him sus.

or a crappy town member.