Not at all, I've never seen a prodigy who hasn't worked for what they have. Itachi, Orochimaru, Sasuke, Minato, Kakashi and Neji all trained their asses off.
These prodigy doesn't work as hard in certain criteria as Boruto especially a guy like Itachi who easily perfected his firestyle in his first try. Also Boruto did worked his Shadow Clones, Gale Palm, Water Style but ofc it wasn't due to his excessive training but nevertheless there was enough buildup where he did earned it in such short period of time much like how normal prodigy are.
Boruto techniques are considered D-C rank so it isn't anything noteworthy because his ability is still imperfect which is the result of not working hard enough.
The only time it was considered as Asspull is when he pulled a lightning style but even then it's really puny so it isn't anything ridiculous on that scale. You even try to downplay Boruto technique because his jutsu are too weak and complimenting Sarada and other characters that can wreck Boruto.
Again that is your fallacious on your part.
Boruto only worked hard during and after the Movie which is how he refined his jutsu just like certain time where normal prodigies have to work their ass off.
Even if wasn't shown always they weren't the main character. Boruto goes to train Rasengan comes back out with a wind infused rasengan(something Minato could never do).
Neji quickly mastered 64 palms from his observation so if he was the Main Character, he would be pretty much in the same shoes as Boruto. Itachi has his shinden story and he was over glorified and rose to the top in such short span.
Naruto also learned rasengan in couple of months something Minato couldn't do. The only difference with Boruto is that he inherited 2 of the most powerful clan and potentially inherited Hamura/Hagoromo chakra. He perfected his rasengan after the movie which assuming it took him weeks to do so. He already has wind release so of course he unconsciously applied to it which is a better representation of the Anime than the Manga/Movie.
Boruto already has wind nature prior to the movie so It isn't something he pulled out of thin air when it's a process development of his training. This was a clear set up when Boruto unconsciously applied wind nature after 3 days training. He unconsciously perform vanishing rasengan yet doesn't meet the same standard as the normal scale rasengan.
Yet Boruto magically forms a regular rasengan later on in the battle against Momoshiki. It gets better(bad writing on roids which I'm not going to address for now). That's just one example of many, for plot progression and what you call potential(bad writing).
I don't see how he "magically" form a rasengan when there was clearly time skip after the event of the movie. Sarada magically formed Firestyle and Mitsuki magically formed Purple Lightning. So your point is clearly invalid here . The Anime will likely expand this anyway unlike how the manga quickly glossed over everything.
Minato's already been mentioned so lets look at Itachi if we take Shinden would always ask to be taught, would practise and he was once in a century prodigy etc. The point is prodigies still work or have legit excuses Boruto's excuse is he's Boruto Dattebasa. Sarada doesn't fall into the same camp, Mitsuki is a genetic freak and Orochimaru's student so he's exempt.
Except that Itachi doesn't work on the same scale as any typical hardworker. Itachi casually learned techniques from being practically smart. This pretty much same applies to Boruto. He practices but doesn't work excessively. Sarada definately falls in the same boat as she has quickly learned to utilize her sharingan and excels on the same level as 3T sharingan.
Also it was already implied that Sarada pulled CES for the first time in Gaiden.
Boruto is also a product of genetic so Mitsuki is not exempt as he was able to quickly adapt techniques from boruto both gale palm and purple lightning.
There's no hypocrisy on my part, perhaps it's on yours you fail to see the difference between a prodigy and bad writing masquerading as progious talent. I'll make it clear if Sarada was the lead and doing the same she'd be in the same boat.
BOLD: Here's your hypocrisy. You don't address this with Sarada as she has done almost the exact thing with Boruto. Same thing with Metal Lee as he had already opened gates and his proficient in shiruken skill in the early academy days, and Sumire who was able to fully use waterstyle on the same scale as tobirama and summoned a tail beast.
It's only bad writing if you don't set up the foundation and build up the story which in that case, most of the side cast were off paneled as there was no indication to some even Sarada with CES and Boruto lightning. I already provided as examples.
These prodigy doesn't work as hard in certain criteria as Boruto especially a guy like Itachi who easily perfected his firestyle in his first try. Also Boruto did worked his Shadow Clones, Gale Palm, Water Style but ofc it wasn't due to his excessive training but nevertheless there was enough buildup where he did earned it in such short period of time much like how normal prodigy are.
Uchiha have fire nature and Itachi was trained by somebody. You clearly missed the point I was making.
Boruto techniques are considered D-C rank so it isn't anything noteworthy because his ability is still imperfect which is the result of not working hard enough.
The only time it was considered as Asspull is when he pulled a lightning style but even then it's really puny so it isn't anything ridiculous on that scale. You even try to downplay Boruto technique because his jutsu are too weak and complimenting Sarada and other characters that can wreck Boruto.
No Boruto has C, B and possibly A rank(PL) jutsu by the manga arc. Power doesn't determine rank or difficulty of jutsu. Again the objection is Boruto pulled them out of thin air without formal tutelage. Therefore ass pulls.
Boruto only worked hard during and after the Movie which is how he refined his jutsu just like certain time where normal prodigies have to work their ass off.
Boruto only worked hard for a moment he still used a rasengan against Momo carried a huge rasengan maintained it and rivalled Momoshiki's power output.
Neji quickly mastered 64 palms from his observation so if he was the Main Character, he would be pretty much in the same shoes as Boruto. Itachi has his shinden story and he was over glorified and rose to the top in such short span.
Neji observed trained and had a kekkei genkai which allows him to see points. Oh and it was never said he mastered it quickly.
Naruto also learned rasengan in couple of months something Minato couldn't do. The only difference with Boruto is that he inherited 2 of the most powerful clan and potentially inherited Hamura/Hagoromo chakra. He perfected his rasengan after the movie which assuming it took him weeks to do so. He already has wind release so of course he unconsciously applied to it which is a better representation of the Anime than the Manga/Movie.
Minato developed the rasengan he already had a chakra nature all characters have a chakra nature. Combining it is an S rank skill beyond A rank as Kakashi. There's nothing subconscious about an ass pull but you're attempts to justify it are evident.
Boruto already has wind nature prior to the movie so It isn't something he pulled out of thin air when it's a process development of his training. This was a clear set up when Boruto unconsciously applied wind nature after 3 days training. He unconsciously perform vanishing rasengan yet doesn't meet the same standard as the normal scale rasengan.
Already addressed above, Kakashi, Naruto, Minato all had chakra natures and could conciously let alone subconsciously apply a change in chakra nature. Size of a jutsu has no bearing on it's difficulty level a 2 inch rasengan or a 5 inch rasengan make no difference in difficulty of the jutsu only power output. An ass pull is still an ass pull.
I don't see how he "magically" form a rasengan when there was clearly time skip after the event of the movie. Sarada magically formed Firestyle and Mitsuki magically formed Purple Lightning. So your point is clearly invalid here . The Anime will likely expand this anyway unlike how the manga quickly glossed over everything.
Neither Mitsuki and Sarada are the main character and fire style is an Uchiha thing which has been explained in the novel. Mitsuki doesn't conform to the rule and doesn't justify the lead character's ass pulls. Also I was referring to the rasengan used against Momo which Naruto charged up.
Except that Itachi doesn't work on the same scale as any typical hardworker. Itachi casually learned techniques from being practically smart. This pretty much same applies to Boruto. He practices but doesn't work excessively. Sarada definately falls in the same boat as she has quickly learned to utilize her sharingan and excels on the same level as 3T sharingan.
No Itachi still trained and was taught, there isn't a level of learning for 1 tomoe or 3 tomoe established. And Boruto learns or knows for the sake of knowing.
Also it was already implied that Sarada pulled CES for the first time in Gaiden.
Sakura is her mother there's room for assumption on her training or she's monstrously strong like Tsuande was either way there's room for acceptance. Not the case with Boruto since he hates his father, his mother doesn't know any of Boruto's techs and he learned them hims out of thin air.
Boruto is also a product of genetic so Mitsuki is not exempt as he was able to quickly adapt techniques from boruto both gale palm and purple lightning.
Mitsuki is Orochimaru's perfect vessel his existence would incorporate everything necessary for Orochimaru to master all techs, Boruto's isn't therefore there's no simultude.
BOLD: Here's your hypocrisy. You don't address this with Sarada as she has done almost the exact thing with Boruto. Same thing with Metal Lee as he had already opened gates and his proficient in shiruken skill in the early academy days, and Sumire who was able to fully use waterstyle on the same scale as tobirama and summoned a tail beast.
It's only bad writing if you don't set up the foundation and build up the story which in that case, most of the side cast were off paneled as there was no indication to some even Sarada with CES and Boruto lightning. I already provided as examples.
No because I made it clear they're not the lead characters and they have parents who can or could've taught them. Boruto outright rejects this. I've essentially repeated everything I mentioned earlier or you didn't grasp my post either way I don't intend to repeat myself or respond.
i think sarada should learn other fire jutsu from other clan instead of fire ball . maybe she should ask konohamaru teach her sarutobi clan fire jutsu . because a GIANT FIRE BALL are pretty slow easy to dodge with jonin level speed .nobody in jonin rank will stay still if they see a GIANT FIRE BALL coming at them
i think sarada should learn other fire jutsu from other clan instead of fire ball . maybe she should ask konohamaru teach her sarutobi clan fire jutsu . because a GIANT FIRE BALL are pretty slow easy to dodge with jonin level speed .nobody in jonin rank with stay still if they see a GIANT FIRE BALL coming at them
Doesn't change the fact that it was asspull when Itachi quickly adapted firestyle first try from a one time lecture by his father. Your excuse is that Itachi has fire nature which I would make the same argument with Boruto having wind nature and he learned Vanashing Rasengan with more effort into the training than Itachi ever was.
Also Sasuke wouldn't have to struggle learning firestyle if what you said were to be true.
No Boruto has C, B and possibly A rank(PL) jutsu by the manga arc. Power doesn't determine rank or difficulty of jutsu. Again the objection is Boruto pulled them out of thin air without formal tutelage. Therefore ass pulls.
Actually Boruto observed from learning C rank jutsu from Mitsuki so this was already set to stone like any normal prodigies would do.
Power does determine the rank of difficulties otherwise Boruto wouldn't work his ass off to learn Rasengan which is considered A rank that's why it was quite easier for Boruto to adapt simple C Rank technique. Boruto was already practicing wind style and forming hand seal before the mist arc happened so that's completely invalid.
When Boruto used gale palm for the second time as he fought Shizuma for the first time, his Boruto stream was imperfect and he already got his ass whooped so it wasn;t any plot convenience there.
Boruto only worked hard for a moment he still used a rasengan against Momo carried a huge rasengan maintained it and rivalled Momoshiki's power output.
He didn't worked for a "moment" You are throwing words very loosely here . He had the whole arc dedicated to training with Konohamaru and Sasuke so if we go by that logic, his chakra and stamina should be improved. Not denying that Boruto overpowering Momoshiki was plot convenience but to able to amass high level chakra isn't anything of a stretch when He has the Hyuga bloodline famed as the best chakra control and the Uzumaki genes famed as chakra reserves. The novel even noted this as a factor of this.
Neji observed from simple sparring match so he taught himself even Hiashi was surprised by this. It doesn't specify whether he uses his Byakugan to see points. It only said that he used his own perception and talent. Also it makes no difference with Boruto since he also has features of tenketsu in a similar fashion of Hyuga KKG which is how he is capable of learning technique faster.
Minato developed the rasengan he already had a chakra nature all characters have a chakra nature. Combining it is an S rank skill beyond A rank as Kakashi. There's nothing subconscious about an ass pull but you're attempts to justify it are evident.
The difference here is that Minato is inventing a new technique so as a developer you would have map of your own with a clear idea something that you envision for. Boruto already had the platform which helps him to find different ways and method to get to that point. There's nothing of an asspull when you are in subconsciously in a process of what you're doing. Boruto received instruction but yet he would rather train in things he can learn easily rather then spend days training in one thing that is difficult for him to learn, hence in the Anime he used lightning infused as a mean to achieve in that state. OFC Konohamaru berates him so in the end Boruto use other ways and thought his puny rasengan is a way to go.
Irrelevant. Kakashi is the inventor of the technique so his conscious /subconscious could also apply to chidori same with Minato as I've already addressed. Naruto doesn't have chakra nature during part one, and when he learned to utilize chakra nature by Kakashi, he ended up developing RasenShiruken. Boruto already knew chakra nature beforehand.
Size of a jutsu has no bearing on it's difficulty level a 2 inch rasengan or a 5 inch rasengan make no difference in difficulty of the jutsu only power output. An ass pull is still an ass pull.
When you apply more chakra, then you ought to have more power output and physical capacity. Only someone in denial can spin that Larger scales = Power has no bearing in difficulty level.
Neither Mitsuki and Sarada are the main character and fire style is an Uchiha thing which has been explained in the novel. Mitsuki doesn't conform to the rule and doesn't justify the lead character's ass pulls. Also I was referring to the rasengan used against Momo which Naruto charged up.
OFC Fire style can be learned by any uchiha but you're missing out the point. I'm saying that there was no indication and or build up for Sarada having Firestyle in her possession that took place between the Movie Arc and Shojoji arc until the Ao Arc. Sarada and Mitsuki are the main characters and Whether they are the Main Cast or not that still doesn't excuse the Sarada plays a prominent role in the story that her goal of becoming Hokage requires training on screen however instead everything was kept in the dark which results bad writing they just pulled.
No Itachi still trained and was taught, there isn't a level of learning for 1 tomoe or 3 tomoe established. And Boruto learns or knows for the sake of knowing.
Itachi pulled a firestyle on his first try. He trained and was taught with shiruken skills in such short time which makes no difference with Boruto. It was established that Sharingan grows in strength upon gaining more tomoe . This sets as unprecedented as soon as the 1 T Sharigan outperform 2T Sharingan prowess. Sasuke 2T Sharingan never displayed such extraordinary level as Sarada 1-T Sharingan. Sarada 1T blew up out of proportion and =surpasses on a higher caliber than 2T Sasuke even Itachi.
Sakura is her mother there's room for assumption on her training or she's monstrously strong like Tsuande was either way there's room for acceptance. Not the case with Boruto since he hates his father, his mother doesn't know any of Boruto's techs and he learned them hims out of thin air.
Wrong, everything here is headcanon but I'll make a point. Boruto loves his father before he left his family and became Hokage which also leaves speculation that he learn from spending time with him. Also Hanabi knew that Boruto undergo his training with Open Palm implying that he either learn from his mother or he spent time on the Hyuga House Hold.
The problem with Sarada is that she was never shown to use CES during her early years in the academy up until she perform it in Gaiden. There was no hints, indication NOTHING. I know Sarada is supposed to inherit her mother, but if that was the case then she should able to use it from the beginning not later. The difference with Boruto is that he already used Shadow Clone on the First Ep meaning that he was more likely that he was raised and learned from his father.
No because I made it clear they're not the lead characters and they have parents who can or could've taught them. Boruto outright rejects this. I've essentially repeated everything I mentioned earlier or you didn't grasp my post either way I don't intend to repeat myself or respond.
Boruto didn't reject any of this if this was the starting point intent by the author. I'll leave Sarada CES, Sumire Water Style, Metal Lee Gates as exception if that was also the case. The main issues here is when the story is progressing. Again Sarada and Mitsuki shared almost the same spotlight as Boruto and Sarada should atleast undergoing some trial.
Thankfully, we just learn that Sarada was taught by Sasuke so the Anime should fill in the gap.
^When your argument gets destroyed, you run away and talk smack instead. Typical saltymander behaviour. Stay Mad knowing tgat Boruto will always be more important and relevant then the half civilian.
^When you argument gets destroyed, you run away and talk smack instead. Typical saltymander behaviour. Stay Mad knowing tgat Boruto will always be more important and relevant then the half civilian.
Nothing's been destroyed except in your delusions, the post is full of the same flawed points as before and I said it before I'm not going to entertain it in the quoted post. If it was different points I would gladly give it it's due. One example of the flaw in pist is Boruto was raised and learnt SCJ from Naruto. Boruto confirms he didn't learn anything from him Dattebasa. And the whole post is similar in construct of course I'm not going to entertain it. All it told me was I'm going to be wasting my time repeating the same things.
The only 1/2- 3/4 Civilian is Boruto depending on the definition taken. Look up the definition of civilian before throwing it around, you're only exposing you're congitive regression.
Ps. Love how you hide behind ^ typical behaviour of a little kid.
Nothing's been destroyed except in your delusions, the post is full of the same flawed points as before and I said it before I'm not going to entertain it in the quoted post. If it was different points I would gladly give it it's due. One example of the flaw in pist is Boruto was raised and learnt SCJ from Naruto. Boruto confirms he didn't learn anything from him Dattebasa. And the whole post is similar in construct of course I'm not going to entertain it. All it told me was I'm going to be wasting my time repeating the same things.
The only 1/2- 3/4 Civilian is Boruto depending on the definition taken. Look up the definition of civilian before throwing it around, you're only exposing you're congitive regression.
Ps. Love how you hide behind ^ typical behaviour of a little kid.
Doesn't change the fact that it was asspull when Itachi quickly adapted firestyle first try from a one time lecture by his father. Your excuse is that Itachi has fire nature which I would make the same argument with Boruto having wind nature and he learned Vanashing Rasengan with more effort into the training than Itachi ever was.
Also Sasuke wouldn't have to struggle learning firestyle if what you said were to be true.
Since I said I wouldn't respond apparently a member(not you) is confused(delusional) so I thought I'd leave this here as my last post. I don't like wasting my time repeating myself or picking apart flawed arguments so I'll only deal with the first part of it.
The brief definiton of ass pull:
Ass Pull*is a moment when the writers*pull*something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle, or near the end of their narrative without Foreshadowing or dropping a Chekhov's Gun earlier on
1st flaw Uchiha specialise in fire style and generally have it as their primary nature. All characters possess one unless they have KKG then they have two or more.
2nd flaw Uchiha Itachi has fire natured chakra and is an Uchiha(specialise in fire style)
3rd flaw Itachi wasn't lectured he was shown the C rank jutsu, has fire natured chakra and is a once in a century genius above even Orochimaru's Kakashi's and Minato's like. So Itachi getting it on one try while being taught the specific jutsu by his father is believable there's 0 ass pull in it refer back to the definition.
Contrast that with Boruto who's being taught Rasengan an A rank jutsu and magically adds wind nature to it subconciously. Everybody has an inherent chakra nature yet nobody subconcously adds anything to the rasengan even by fluke for plot convenience (ass pull look at definiton above). To put that into context for you adding a chakra nature to the peak of form manipulation (A rank) is consdered an S rank + and near impossible feat. To do it subconsciously is what makes it more of an ass pull than actually training to develop the tech.
Using the parable of Itachi is flawed from the get go since the situations are not like for like to begin with. There's 0 simultude past instruction.
As for Sasuke everybody has a primary nature Sasuke's is lightning (paper test) and Chidori would attest to that. For him to learn an out of nature jutsu would reauire him to first change his nature then add shape maniuplation to the jutsu. That would take longer and he's not the once in a century genious like Itachi either. However all geniouses are shown making active effort to develop their skills only taking less time whereas Boruto pulls it out of his rear end. Also it's purpose was for plot, Boruto being taken to the last fight to serve some relevance to it further cementing it's true origin.
And another reason why I don't like addressing flawed arguments is becausethey require walls of text and time.
Lets hope that member overcomes his congitive regression and I'm out.
Ps. Never try and compare a skid mark with Itachi, that's an insult to the soloking.
Since I said I wouldn't respond apparently a member(not you) is confused(delusional) so I thought I'd leave this here as my last post. I don't like wasting my time repeating myself or picking apart flawed arguments so I'll only deal with the first part of it.
The brief definiton of ass pull:
1st flaw Uchiha specialise in fire style and generally have it as their primary nature. All characters possess one unless they have KKG then they have two or more.
Every clan specialize in something but that doesn't mean their primary nature can automatically pull a big gun. KKG can be perform through requirement of training. For Example, you have to work hard in order to awaken the Byakugan. Need to hone your skills to flex your Shadow Possession. All these bloodline limit requires training which was established from P1.
Ignoring that Sasuke has fire natured chakra and went under a trial after few days of training. Also Ninja can learn jutsu of any chakra nature even if they don’t have an affinity for it as most jounin master at least two chakra natures. And they don’t need nature transformation to learn every elemental ninjutsu as Chouji was able to perform Earth Release: Practice Brick Jutsu without knowing earth nature transformation (which was presumably the case for at least a few of the Allied Shinobi Forces in that scene). But Kakashi implied that it is needed for high level elemental ninjutsu.
Which is point proven in the War Arc where a lot of Earth-release types learned Earth Release: Practice Brick Jutsu almost instantly after getting the necessary hand seals to perform a lesser version of the wall technique. Which directly clashes with the idea that you need to 'hone' your change of chakra nature to utilize your elemental release.
3rd flaw Itachi wasn't lectured he was shown the C rank jutsu, has fire natured chakra and is a once in a century genius above even Orochimaru's Kakashi's and Minato's like. So Itachi getting it on one try while being taught the specific jutsu by his father is believable there's 0 ass pull in it refer back to the definition.
If he wasn't lectured then that only proves my point in regards to Boruto adapting techniques by his observation. Itachi was a fresh kid who was much younger than Sasuke at the time. Itachi comes with less experience and he perfectly learn to adapt firestyle in his first try no difficulty.
Boruto atleast took the time to hone his wind style and I'm pretty sure Mitsuki showed him alot to offer in the whole Nue arc than Fugaku who only demonstrated his technique toward his son ONCE.
If your excuse is that Itachi is a "once in a century genius above all prodigy" then I guess by your logic it makes no difference with Boruto consider as the "above all" in a one time century. Unless you're gonna claim that Sarada is a better prodigy than Boruto than that completely destroy your own argument.
Contrast that with Boruto who's being taught Rasengan an A rank jutsu and magically adds wind nature to it subconciously. Everybody has an inherent chakra nature yet nobody subconcously adds anything to the rasengan even by fluke for plot convenience (ass pull look at definiton above). To put that into context for you adding a chakra nature to the peak of form manipulation (A rank) is consdered an S rank + and near impossible feat. To do it subconsciously is what makes it more of an ass pull than actually training to develop the tech.
First of all, The wind infused rasengan was profound in Naruto and secondly, subconsciously is a very broad term which could vary anything so The definition of an Asspull doesn't fit with your narrative. When you apply chakra nature it only depends on the power scales which is more prone to difficulty level.
Vanashing Rasengan is such a minuscule compare to normal rasengan so to put things into context, it's not consider to be the pinnacle form of manipulation. Boruto still need to amplify more chakra to put things to work. Entering subconscious doesn't separate from the fact that he was training hard to develop the tech. His intense training is the framework of his subconscious so in other word it's not really an asspull .
As for Sasuke everybody has a primary nature Sasuke's is lightning (paper test) and Chidori would attest to that. For him to learn an out of nature jutsu would reauire him to first change his nature then add shape maniuplation to the jutsu. That would take longer and he's not the once in a century genious like Itachi either. However all geniouses are shown making active effort to develop their skills only taking less time whereas Boruto pulls it out of his rear end. Also it's purpose was for plot, Boruto being taken to the last fight to serve some relevance to it further cementing it's true origin.
Kakashi stated that he learned his Lightning 'change of chakra' in a few days. Seemingly none of these characters needed 'years' to hone their elemental prowess, one relying on shadow clones, and Sasuke relying on sheer talent.
Another point for Sasuke, is that his father Fugaku, taught him Fire-Ball, at a young age. He not only mastered his change of chakra, and the jutsu itself, after a few days. But he also produced a larger fire release technique, at the same time. We've seen prodigies like Kakashi before who created Chidori (Shape Manipulation + Chakra Transformation) at 10, which means that Kakashi mastered the Rasengan at even a younger age than that since the Rasengan precede the Chidori. Boruto learned his Nature Releases between the time skip of the Academy and the Gaiden Arc, which was quite some time considering the fact that he's about to graduate. So in between that understanding, it was never stated how long it took him to learn his change of nature. With or without a teacher stated.
You don't like addressing because it takes up too much of your time but it's not like you have proven anything to warrant your case. If you want to leave then go ahead, I'm not going to call you out as this whole discussion doesn't really cement to anything. I still stand by what I said.
Every clan specialize in something but that doesn't mean their primary nature can automatically pull a big gun. KKG can be perform through requirement of training. For Example, you have to work hard in order to awaken the Byakugan. Need to hone your skills to flex your Shadow Possession. All these bloodline limit requires training which was established from P1.
why're you bringing KKG into it we're talking about chakra natures and Jutsu related to that nature they're not kekkei Genkai. Again you diverted the topic this time to aKKG such as Byakugan. When we're discussing elemental natures? There are 5 primary natures Yin and yang release arent part of the 5 primary natures go back to the lesson by Yamato for more details. Stay on topic Yin and Yang release jutsu are a different shadow possession falls into that category.
Ignoring that Sasuke has fire natured chakra and went under a trial after few days of training. Also Ninja can learn jutsu of any chakra nature even if they don’t have an affinity for it as most jounin master at least two chakra natures. And they don’t need nature transformation to learn every elemental ninjutsu as Chouji was able to perform Earth Release: Practice Brick Jutsu without knowing earth nature transformation (which was presumably the case for at least a few of the Allied Shinobi Forces in that scene). But Kakashi implied that it is needed for high level elemental ninjutsu.
Handseals are used to produce the change in nature and shape as Sasuke did, secondly Shikamaru asked for a simple Jutsu that anybody could learn indicating it's very low grade. Yes Kakashi was referring to elemental Nature Jutsu of B rank as he was shocked by kakazu who was only using B rank Jutsu being a Jonin level skill.
Which is point proven in the War Arc where a lot of Earth-release types learned Earth Release: Practice Brick Jutsu almost instantly after getting the necessary hand seals to perform a lesser version of the wall technique. Which directly clashes with the idea that you need to 'hone' your change of chakra nature to utilize your elemental release.
Your point is non existent since the request was for a simple jutsu that anybody could learn. How that relates to somebody learning a C rank jutsu from an element that is inherent and they specialise in I dont have a clue.
If he wasn't lectured then that only proves my point in regards to Boruto adapting techniques by his observation. Itachi was a fresh kid who was much younger than Sasuke at the time. Itachi comes with less experience and he perfectly learn to adapt firestyle in his first try no difficulty.
No he wasn't younger than Sasuke, Itachi and Sasuke were around the same age and both were taught directly even though they were prodogies. The rest is just an excuse on your part which you cant substantiate.
Boruto atleast took the time to hone his wind style and I'm pretty sure Mitsuki showed him alot to offer in the whole Nue arc than Fugaku who only demonstrated his technique toward his son ONCE.
A load of baloney to justifyBoruto's rear ended pulls, Mitsuki didn't teach him breathrough or any of those Jutsu he uses. Boruto already knew them Dattebasa and he went to the academy around the same age as Itachi, Sasuke and co. Like I said they were shown and practised Boruto just had them Dattebasa.
If your excuse is that Itachi is a "once in a century genius above all prodigy" then I guess by your logic it makes no difference with Boruto consider as the "above all" in a one time century. Unless you're gonna claim that Sarada is a better prodigy than Boruto than that completely destroy your own argument.
One above all is hype by a blindman, and like I said itachi still wasn't pulling things out of thin air for the sake of plot.
First of all, The wind infused rasengan was profound in Naruto and secondly, subconsciously is a very broad term which could vary anything so The definition of an Asspull doesn't fit with your narrative. When you apply chakra nature it only depends on the power scales which is more prone to difficulty level.
Vanashing Rasengan is such a minuscule compare to normal rasengan so to put things into context, it's not consider to be the pinnacle form of manipulation. Boruto still need to amplify more chakra to put things to work. Entering subconscious doesn't separate from the fact that he was training hard to develop the tech. His intense training is the framework of his subconscious so in other word it's not really an asspull .
I don't know what your smoking the size of the jutsu doesn't determine its level, It's the difficulty of learning it. Miniscule or not is wholly irrelevant to the topic and it's still an ass pull under the definiton. Big ball rasengan, rasengan spheres dual Rasengan, reqular rasengan, spiralling spheres are all vlassed as A rank althpugh they all vary in power size and number. You can't try and create your own rule bevause it's small the ass pull isn't an ass pull.
Actually it does.
> Boruto watched Mitsuki uses Wind Style on multiple occasion.
> Itachi watched Fugaku spit fire ball ONCE.
Do you see how that makes Itachi clearly more gifted.
Actually it doesn't Fugaku went down demonstarted and instructed, Itachi replicated the jutsu. Boruto's wind style Jutsu weren't used by Mitsuki prior to Boruto's use Dattebasa. There's no correlation between the 2.
Kakashi stated that he learned his Lightning 'change of chakra' in a few days. Seemingly none of these characters needed 'years' to hone their elemental prowess, one relying on shadow clones, and Sasuke relying on sheer talent.
I don't remember Kakshi saying that, even it were true it's Sasuke's natural affinity and he had the Sharingan which assists in learning jutsu.
Another point for Sasuke, is that his father Fugaku, taught him Fire-Ball, at a young age. He not only mastered his change of chakra, and the jutsu itself, after a few days. But he also produced a larger fire release technique, at the same time.
It wasn't a few days and Sasuke was shown working his ass off to do it.
We've seen prodigies like Kakashi before who created Chidori (Shape Manipulation + Chakra Transformation) at 10, which means that Kakashi mastered the Rasengan at even a younger age than that since the Rasengan precede the Chidori.
No he didn't he was older a lot older more like 13 or 14 when he developed his jutsu consciously because he couldn't subconsciously add a change of chakra Nature Dattebasa. It's because kakasgi couldn't pull ot out of his rear end even on a miniscale.
Boruto learned his Nature Releases between the time skip of the Academy and the Gaiden Arc, which was quite some time considering the fact that he's about to graduate. So in between that understanding, it was never stated how long it took him to learn his change of nature. With or without a teacher stated.
Bad writing and ass pulls whenever necessary like I said gor plot progression.
You don't like addressing because it takes up too much of your time but it's not like you have proven anything to warrant your case. If you want to leave then go ahead, I'm not going to call you out as this whole discussion doesn't really cement to anything. I still stand by what I said.
It takes way too much time, it took me about 30-40 minutes to type this up. I'm defintiely done on this topic, feel free to stand by what you like it's your right to do so.
, coward.
