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1) Amaterasu burns through anything,even chakra so Naruto can not deflect it,also fire is not a physical substance,it is gaseous. Though he may easily dodge it. Albiet Sasuke can use enton to manipulate the flames and make them harder to avoid.(Ex. Turning it into a large net at the last second,cause already existing amaterasu flames to ignite him when Naruto is unaware or any other thing his genius mind can think of. Hell,he can even make a large susanoo with enton if he wanted)

2) Alot of people say TBB>Susanoo but they forget that Naruto has to stand still and charge it while an enton susanoo arrow/chidori sharp spear can make its way through his heart in mere seconds. Piercing him and burning up/paralysing the rest. Also I doubt TBB can destroy a full final susanoo. A mere ribcage blocked Naruto's SM boosted Odama Rasengan without a single scratch and susanoo's defenses get exponentially more powerfull as it goes through stages.

3) Susanoo can keep Naruto's giant Kurama at bay while Naruto and Sasuke fight.

4) Kirin doesent take that much prep. If there is no storm in the sky then Sasuke will easily Use a combination of his enton,katon and amaterasu to heat up the atmosphere to create his own cumulonimbus clouds while simultaneously attacking Naruto. He may even trick Naruto into speeding up the process like he did against Itachi.

5) The above are just the things shown so far. Sasuke has even more power up his metaphorical sleeves.

While I do beleive Sasuke>Naruto Naruto will win. This is because if Sasuke wins a third time then that would mean the death of Naruto and all of konoha and Kishi will not allow that. Naruto (since Sasuke is immune to talk no jutsu) will have to rely on plot no jutsu which never fails him.
 

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1) Amaterasu burns through anything,even chakra so Naruto can not deflect it,also fire is not a physical substance,it is gaseous. Though he may easily dodge it. Albiet Sasuke can use enton to manipulate the flames and make them harder to avoid.(Ex. Turning it into a large net at the last second,cause already existing amaterasu flames to ignite him when Naruto is unaware or any other thing his genius mind can think of. Hell,he can even make a large susanoo with enton if he wanted)

2) Alot of people say TBB>Susanoo but they forget that Naruto has to stand still and charge it while an enton susanoo arrow/chidori sharp spear can make its way through his heart in mere seconds. Piercing him and burning up/paralysing the rest. Also I doubt TBB can destroy a full final susanoo. A mere ribcage blocked Naruto's SM boosted Odama Rasengan without a single scratch and susanoo's defenses get exponentially more powerfull as it goes through stages.

3) Susanoo can keep Naruto's giant Kurama at bay while Naruto and Sasuke fight.

4) Kirin doesent take that much prep. If there is no storm in the sky then Sasuke will easily Use a combination of his enton,katon and amaterasu to heat up the atmosphere to create his own cumulonimbus clouds while simultaneously attacking Naruto. He may even trick Naruto into speeding up the process like he did against Itachi.

5) The above are just the things shown so far. Sasuke has even more power up his metaphorical sleeves.

While I do beleive Sasuke>Naruto Naruto will win. This is because if Sasuke wins a third time then that would mean the death of Naruto and all of konoha and Kishi will not allow that. Naruto (since Sasuke is immune to talk no jutsu) will have to rely on plot no jutsu which never fails him.


i Thank you for Countering my Arguments one by one . but let me explain a couple of things


1) i Did not State that he can deflect it , i said that it might be possible . that is a tad bit different .

Not really , he has Control of enton , yes . But that is not a reason to Say that Naruto can not Sense the attack - He might feel the chakra gathering In Split second ,

Such as he did with the 3rd Raikage in Sage mode


Naruto has Astute sensor abilities , stronger than any other sensory type ninja ever had - Kisame Hoshikagi's Statement

2)TBB IS stronger than susanoo , and you did not deny it

any other Jinchuuriki would need to stand and Gather Chakra for a Long period of time but


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IT took Naruto Half the Time needed to gather a TBB than for all the other beasts . And he gathered the Same amound of Chakra 4 times more than he usuallu should gather

Sasuke Can ofcorce cast Enton on Naruto , But it will Most probably hit the Vast Ball of chakra

So i think im clear on this point .

3)It was not my point . My point was that Naruto now has the Same Ability like the Susanoo .

HE did not have it before , and even then Sasuke being Stronger was Arguable

4)You just said how much prep Kirin needs yourself , all of it takes time - you contradict yourself on that point

5)All we have seen from EMS was from Madara - He was Almost 1 shot By Naruto if he wouldn't have awaken the rinnengan


I agree on this , Naruto will always in the end be equal to Sasuke , But at the Climax of the series he has to win


Or kishimoto is just trying to Make the series longer for his profit
 

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Current naruto is in the meantime stronger than sasuke. i agree but maybe the next chapters will make the two of them equal again.
 

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All you Sasuke D*** Riders know that Naruto is greater than Sasuke and you need to stop all this bullshit!!!
 

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lol your telling me to read the manga. smfh

i showed manga scans so obvisly i read the manga.

try another way to be a *******, because this post makes you look like a dumbass.


cant even read your first paragraph, makes no sense.

sasuke hadnt even fought eight tails then dumbass.

sasuke had fought naruto like 3+ times.

the manga> you

You say you can't read my writing yet you spell obviously wrong also it's can't not cant, if anything your post has made you look retarded.

Sasuke fought the eight tails after his meeting with Naruto at Orochimaru's base and Bee used the eight tails power on Sasuke several times




I can find other pages as well showing Bee using his Bijuu's power so why didn't Sasuke try suppress it if he could, the answer is he couldn't.

Again your only arguments to try back up your claim is to bring battles from the past up, since then Naruto has gained sage mode, Kyuubi Chakra mode and Bijuu mode.

Logic>>>You

I'll wait for your reply which will involve mentioning Sasuke and Naruto's previous battles and me not reading the manga.
 

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You just want some Posts on your thread looser

Actually , any person who posts a thread wants his thread to be read

and posts are replies to my thread , showing that people saw what i posted and find it interesting


So Naturally i would want posts on my thread , yes
 

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Naruto > Sasuke, at the moment, that's not a secret.
 

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Some of your points do not make any sense:

- Amatersu burns through Chakra even, and it cannot be deflected. Enton can be utilized to manipulate the flames.
- Naruto has a charge for his TBB, and during this charge he can get hit by Amatersu - which travels where ever the eye goes and is instant -, arrow, chidori, and Kirin if the atmosphere allows it.

I can't see how naruto is countering these. Regardless, I am sick an tired of 'insert character here' > Sasuke threads.


Naruto = always on right path, follows the right way to achieve power, he is the symbol of love/light

Sasuke = always on the wrong path, his way to achieve power is wrong, he is the symbol of hatred/darkness

Which one should be stronger?

Who the hell cares about Naruto being the symbol of cheesy goodness. Is that even an valid argument?
 

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Some of your points do not make any sense:

- Amatersu burns through Chakra even, and it cannot be deflected. Enton can be utilized to manipulate the flames.
- Naruto has a charge for his TBB, and during this charge he can get hit by Amatersu - which travels where ever the eye goes and is instant -, arrow, chidori, and Kirin if the atmosphere allows it.

I can't see how naruto is countering these. Regardless, I am sick an tired of 'insert character here' > Sasuke threads.




Who the hell cares about Naruto being the symbol of cheesy goodness. Is that even an valid argument?


read what i wrote here to clarify once again





1) i Did not State that he can deflect it , i said that it might be possible . that is a tad bit different .

Not really , he has Control of enton , yes . But that is not a reason to Say that Naruto can not Sense the attack - He might feel the chakra gathering In Split second ,

Such as he did with the 3rd Raikage in Sage mode


Naruto has Astute sensor abilities , stronger than any other sensory type ninja ever had - Kisame Hoshikagi's Statement

2)TBB IS stronger than susanoo , and you did not deny it

any other Jinchuuriki would need to stand and Gather Chakra for a Long period of time but


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IT took Naruto Half the Time needed to gather a TBB than for all the other beasts . And he gathered the Same amound of Chakra 4 times more than he usuallu should gather

Sasuke Can ofcorce cast Enton on Naruto , But it will Most probably hit the Vast Ball of chakra

So i think im clear on this point .

3)It was not my point . My point was that Naruto now has the Same Ability like the Susanoo .

HE did not have it before , and even then Sasuke being Stronger was Arguable

4)You just said how much prep Kirin needs yourself , all of it takes time - you contradict yourself on that point

5)All we have seen from EMS was from Madara - He was Almost 1 shot By Naruto if he wouldn't have awaken the rinnengan


I agree on this , Naruto will always in the end be equal to Sasuke , But at the Climax of the series he has to win


Or kishimoto is just trying to Make the series longer for his profit[/QUOTE]
 

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^ TBB has preparation time, and is only strong if it hits. A technique that is stopped before hitting is as useless as Sasuke's Amatersu was against A. That TBB preparation time will be Naruto's undoing if he goes with it, as it is extremely sluggish compared to almost instant and unavoidable Amatersu and arrows. If Sasuke spams Amatersu and throw a powerful fire jutsu into the sky like he id with his fight with Itachi; Kirin will be prepared in no time. And Kirin cannot be avoided, as it strikes the ground in 1/1000 of a second, and Naruto is no where near as fast as this.
 

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^ TBB has preparation time, and is only strong if it hits. A technique that is stopped before hitting is as useless as Sasuke's Amatersu was against A. That TBB preparation time will be Naruto's undoing if he goes with it, as it is extremely sluggish compared to almost instant and unavoidable Amatersu and arrows. If Sasuke spams Amatersu and throw a powerful fire jutsu into the sky like he id with his fight with Itachi; Kirin will be prepared in no time. And Kirin cannot be avoided, as it strikes the ground in 1/1000 of a second, and Naruto is no where near as fast as this.


ORLLY SHELKE ? ORLLY ?



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Sigh. This is what a fully charged Bijuu Bomb looks like:

Hachibi charging and releases its uncompressed form in the form of a beam: and .

Kurama charging its TBB: - - See the chakra gathering in its mouth? Not only was Minato able to deliver a dialogue, but he formed seals as well.

- - Chakra gathering, and Mintao had enough time to summon the toad to stop it: . If this isn't sluggish, then I don't know what is : and the TBB is still charging in its mouth. You call this a quick technique?

The level of devastation depends upon how much the chakra is un-compressed and charged to throw at an opponent. Rassangen is based on this principle. So these bombs are no where near as powerful as this: and Kurama's bomb that repelled them: .

These are uncharged, compressed barrage of Beast Balls, hence their devastation is obviously not at the same level. And it can be further proved by this:

- Kurama charging its full TBB to counter five TBBs: . The completed Bijuu Bomb or Sphere: . Look at the devastation it caused: . Now compare it to the scattered barrage of TBBs' and look at the points/places where they landed: . Also, what makes you think they are quick, as Juubi is charging to throw a beam?

Conclusion: A charged TBB or a beam is much much powerful than an uncharged one.
 

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Yep, currently Naruto is vastly superior to Sasuke, thats no secret. But:
1. We know that Sasuke is still acustoming to his new eyes.
2. We know that EMS unlocks completely new kaleidoscope technique (so its not PS), and considering the simple fact that its coming from EMS (not from MS like three previous ones) it should be really overpowered.
3. Sasuke might be able to develop Perfect Susanoo just like Madara.

In short, Sasuke has enough potential with his current eyes to match Naruto, and considering Kishimotos words its only a matter of time when this will happen, I even bet that we wont have to wait very long.
 
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