Naruto/sasuke vs juubito

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Hey guys. So, I'm bringing a discussion that will mostly be made of assumptions by many of us, debaters, based on some previous events of the manga. Basically, what I'm saying is: if you're that kind of guy, the kind "show me scans or you're wrong", then you should leave, because honestly, I don't this statement, that will be useless to the thread, to appear countless times.

Now, with this said, let us begin:

My questions to you guys are:

1- Based on how gai was able to push madara back(madara juubi jin is stronger than juubito by minato's statement), do you think that gai would be able to take down juubito, alone? Byu take down I mean kill him. It's irrelevant if guy would die after that, I want to know if he is capable of doing such feat.

2- Based on how naruto in his "sage mode bijuu eyes base form"(I don't how to call that, you understood me) was able to push madara back, just in his "not cloaked mode", do you think that he would be able, either in his "base" form,or in is rikudou form(we don't know much about it, but he is most likelt stronger and faster than the naruto that was fighting madara) would be able to take down juubito alone(either killing him or removing the bijuus, at least)? PS: Ignore the "morals" of the char, please.

3- Based on sasuke's previous powers, and based on the difference between previous naruto and current naruto(assuming that new sasuke would have the same difference, or close to it, and assuming he has a kind of senjutsu), do you think that this new sasuke, though we don't know his skills, would be able to take down juubito alone?

PS: Please, if you answer it, give a small explanation to your answer, and if possible, mentione the difficulty(high dif, etc)
 
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Umm yeah I guess they can take him I guess....I don't have anything much to explain...Juubito that name .....I prefer the name obito to be honest Juubito just for fan I guess or whatever they the base wanna call everyone...... nardo, sausage...fodderkage....
just a Laugh out Loud for me how the base made so much trolls and fun out of naruto >.< ... ( Don't Feed the Trolls ) lol
 

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1. The Evening Elephant could do serious damage to Obito. But I don't know about taking him down. If he lands Night Gai/Moth to Obito he is done for, but the prepartion needed to build up chakra for that may not be available for him, Juubito doesn't toy around like Madara.

2. I believe Naruto in Rikudo form can take him out. He has the Sage Senjutsu. But I may be wrong, it'll be a hard battle.

3. Since Naruto and Sasuke are equals here they both have the same chance when it comes to Juubito.
 

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1. The Evening Elephant could do serious damage to Obito. But I don't know about taking him down. If he lands Night Gai/Moth to Obito he is done for, but the prepartion needed to build up chakra for that may not be available for him, Juubito doesn't toy around like Madara.

2. I believe Naruto in Rikudo form can take him out. He has the Sage Senjutsu. But I may be wrong, it'll be a hard battle.

3. Since Naruto and Sasuke are equals here they both have the same chance when it comes to Juubito.
All the said by this guy! ^^
 

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ok the answer to all the three cases lies in the simple fact "Morals Off" , so i would take both parties to be bloodlusted thus making Obito immune to T'nj so he has no second thoughts on what he is doing(which was the only reason for his downfall, cuz the blade of creation(dna blade lol) that he was using, takes power from the will of the user).
so it'll be one hell of a fight since new naruto seems like a boss.
now to take care of these guys i think obito can still use that flower four bijuudama + barrier thing. which is just a nuke( the only way SA survived was cuz of tobirama and minato tele) so in this we are only talking about gai,naruto and sasuke...i don't see them tanking it.
now i'll presume sasukes new eye might give him perfect susanoo but still i don't think PS can defend against 4 BDs. Naruto's senjutsu base lava shuriken seemed too OP and i think the sphere ball proctection won't be enough, he'll have to dodge this one cuz omnyoton doesn't work agaisnt senjutsu but then again obito's sphere barrier did tank his own 4BDs so..it depends on how it worked, if the sphere protection used omnoyton to cancel out the BDs then it won't be able to cancel out narutos lava shuriken but if the shield just plain out tanked the BDs then :O goodluck to the trio cuz 4BDs >>lava shuriken anyday.

so this is just one scenerio, there can be countless others depending upon which team goes on offense 1st, i mean guy is ofc going full offense cuz he has no time to waste..also Obito's fighting style is different from madara, he does not like prolonged fights and don't take pleasure in it like madara, so if madara was holding back just to "DANCE" this won't work against obito cuz he goes in for the kill.

all in all it'll be very interesting fight and remember you said "Morals off" and we know a T'nj immune Obito is a killing machine (mist reference) ,
have a good day :p
 
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Current Naruto would win,imo.
He has onmyoudon sage mode all bijuus chakra(small portion)and look what he did to madara just in SM and let alone his new mode.
Since Sasuke is equal to naruto he also can beat Juubito ,imo.
 

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Naruto was pushing back a stronger form of Juubito, he'd solo. Sasuke is supposed to be equal with Naruto, he'd solo as well.

-Bijuu Dama has to be charged up and fired off by Obito using the tree, in this time Naruto will easily be able to cut down the tree, thus cancelling the charge of the Bijuu Dama.

-He borderline blitzed Madara in "Base" Juubito is far slower than Rikudo Madara since Madara was far faster than normal Obito. So he'd blitz Juubito as well and toss a YRS right in his face. SM Rasengan put a hole in Obito's back, YRS would kill him.

-Naruto is now completely immune to the Gudo Dama. It can't disintegrate him so those aren't even factors here. Not to mention Naruto has his own.
 

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Naruto stomps juubito at the present time. Even though sasuke doesn't have the feats yet, common sense dictates he would put up a solid fight-his only problem is that he doesn't have senjutsu as far as we know.(but if he does, he would probably solo as well.)
 

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Hey guys. So, I'm bringing a discussion that will mostly be made of assumptions by many of us, debaters, based on some previous events of the manga. Basically, what I'm saying is: if you're that kind of guy, the kind "show me scans or you're wrong", then you should leave, because honestly, I don't this statement, that will be useless to the thread, to appear countless times.

Now, with this said, let us begin:

My questions to you guys are:

1- Based on how gai was able to push madara back(madara juubi jin is stronger than juubito by minato's statement), do you think that gai would be able to take down juubito, alone? Byu take down I mean kill him. It's irrelevant if guy would die after that, I want to know if he is capable of doing such feat.

2- Based on how naruto in his "sage mode bijuu eyes base form"(I don't how to call that, you understood me) was able to push madara back, just in his "not cloaked mode", do you think that he would be able, either in his "base" form,or in is rikudou form(we don't know much about it, but he is most likelt stronger and faster than the naruto that was fighting madara) would be able to take down juubito alone(either killing him or removing the bijuus, at least)? PS: Ignore the "morals" of the char, please.

3- Based on sasuke's previous powers, and based on the difference between previous naruto and current naruto(assuming that new sasuke would have the same difference, or close to it, and assuming he has a kind of senjutsu), do you think that this new sasuke, though we don't know his skills, would be able to take down juubito alone?

PS: Please, if you answer it, give a small explanation to your answer, and if possible, mentione the difficulty(high dif, etc)
well, he may be able to beat obito, but here are a few tings. when gai fought madara he had help. thanks to kakashi, he was able to land a direct hit on madara after kamuing away part of his orb shield. then later minato just teleported the rest away. had it not been for that it a chance that the battle would have been a lot different. so it's hard to say if he could break though that defense.

yes naruto could easily take down juubito, in base senjutsu form. he was fast enough to blitz juubidara. then he had good enough reflexes to then dodge renbo hingoku. if juubito was to get hit by that rasenshuriken he would have been done. if naruto enters his chakra mode it stops being a contest.

if we assume he has senjutsu, i don't think he does though, he should be able to. But we really need to see what he gets to be truly sure.
 

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Naruto can dodge anything Juubito throws at him,his reflexes are just crazy capable of dodgin RH and shit ,Senpou Rasengan was able to bust through his defenses,the RS variations he can use right know will tear him a new one,low diff solo at the very least.
Sasuke gets scaled to Naruto,he can solo aswell.
 

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Either take him low diff. I will discuss naruto only, but sasuke should be able to do also as sasuke = naruto at this point.

Madara is said to be stronger than juubito.... and, from feats, that's pretty obvious.
Naruto dodged madara's fastest attack.
Naruto tossed an attack madara was incapable of dodging.
In the process naruto even sliced down juubito's most powerful attack - Shinju
That was all SM naruto with some slight bijuu chakra.... Now, add His BM boost onto these feats along with his godou damas.

Naruto clearly wrecks juubito low diff. After all, 12 base rasengan could chew through juubito's strongest defence. 1 Yoton-RS would shatter everything, including his hopes and dreams.
 

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Yes, they can.
Madara for one couldn't believe how strong Naruto got. At that time, that was only a V0 Form I would say. Not to mention that he didn't even used the Cloak, letting alone the Gudou Damas. Yet he well was speedblitz and threw LRS that damage Madara and destroyed the tree at the same time.

As for Sasuke, he was supposed to be equal to Naruto since he obtained the other half of Hago's power. So he should be able to do the same, only with different feats later on.
 

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Naruto and Sasuke are equal in different regards. They're equal in that they're the two halves that make up the Sage, but their powers are completely different (hypothetical) and therein lies which is more useful. IMO Naruto's powers seem more useful and capable of soloing anyone whereas sasuke might have trouble against opponents that Naruto could solo, Juubito for example. I don't think Sasuke's powers are cut out to take on a juubi jin alone. And that's why aruto and gai can solo where sasuke may not be able to.

But yes, Naruto and Sasuke are two sides of the same coin, but that doesn't necessarily translate to them being equal in powers, or abilities, or whatever. As of right now, it just seems that Naruto got the better end of the stick if u know what I'm saying
 
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