Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke got what they wanted in the end.

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It is apart of their natural chakra reserves as it's the wielder's own chakra and it's still apart of their body. Kishi already admitted that he didn't plan part 2 out save for Naruto vs Sasuke. It not being mentioned/hinted at all, means it's an obvious asspull.

No it isn't apart of their natural reserves.. Why would Sakura call it her "Hyakugou chakra" if it derived from her natural reserves?

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I know you don't wanna give Sakura any type of credit but your at a dead end.
That doesn't make stronger, just better at medical ninjutsu. In combat 17 year old Tsunade would shit on her. She finished the acedemy at 6, half the age it took Sakura too.

Word: Overall

Definition: taking everything into account.

Sentence: 17 year old Sakura is overall stronger then 17 year old Tsunade.
 
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If you watched RTN. That story of her parents was very nice. I think it would have made her relatable. Thats something she needed in my opinion.

Any kind of background would've been welcomed.

Seeing as how she was the only member of Team 7 to have parents that weren't dead, one would've expected to see them at some point in the manga.
 

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There was no seal? I'm not saying that she should've used her seal during her fight with Sasori.

I'm saying she should've utilized the chakra that was stored for the seal.

Please read carefully next time.

I read it perfectly and responded perfectly. You should try to reread the manga then try again.
 

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Having a goal around a main character is not the problem. Its making it just that same goal is the problem. Sakura never had a backstory that one would care for. She had no relation to the story other than the fact that she is part of team seven used for the love triangle. Hinata still had a backstory and a clan that could have been worked on. As a main heroine she would be more than just about Naruto. Having more screen time and having less screen time does make a difference. This is why Sakura has feats and Hinata doesn't. Those feats are the only defense you guys have for her. The rest was poorly done.

Kishi basically admitted he didn't write a background for Sakura because the readers wouldn't care. And it doesn't change the fact that bashing Sakura for revolving around a guy, while praising Hinata when she does the same doesn't make sense. The "what if" doesn't count as canon, neither getting few screen time is an excuse for poor development. It's Kishi's inability to handle women, he even admitted this.
 

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Any kind of background would've been welcomed.

Seeing as how she was the only member of Team 7 to have parents that weren't dead, one would've expected to see them at some point in the manga.


Well yeah that's the thing. I expected her to show her parents more than the other characters. Who knows maybe they could have played a role in helping them understand what having a family is like?
 

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No it isn't apart of their natural reserves.. Why would Sakura call it her "Hyakugou chakra" if it derived from her natural reserves?

She's just referring to her chakra which she has been storing. The chakra isn't from an outside source, so it's narutally her's. It's not like with Naruto and the Kyuubi.

I know you don't wanna give Sakura any type of credit but your at a dead end.

Nice ad hominem. :coffee:

Word: Overall

Definition: taking everything into account.

Sentence: 17 year old Sakura is overall stronger then 17 year old Tsunade.

Having more jutsu=/=being stronger. 17 year old Tsuande is both physically stronger and more skilled than 17 year old Sakura. How is Tsunade not stronger?
 

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Kishi basically admitted he didn't write a background for Sakura because the readers wouldn't care. And it doesn't change the fact that bashing Sakura for revolving around a guy, while praising Hinata when she does the same doesn't make sense. The "what if" doesn't count as canon, neither getting few screen time is an excuse for poor development. It's Kishi's inability to handle women, he even admitted this.


Hinata's reasoning and Sakura's reasoning was totally different. So yes I will bash the one with the more screen time to impress. This only shows that no matter how much Kishi tried he never won fans over with Sakura. So its the character's fault technically. On the other hand Hinata was never given this freedom. These are not what ifs these are facts.
 

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No it isn't apart of their natural reserves.. Why would Sakura call it her "Hyakugou chakra" if it derived from her natural reserves?

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I know you don't wanna give Sakura any type of credit but your at a dead end.


Word: Overall

Definition: taking everything into account.

Sentence: 17 year old Sakura is overall stronger then 17 year old Tsunade.

Because that is now chakra coming from her seal, so she calls it as such.

However, chakra is still chakra.
 

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I read it perfectly and responded perfectly. You should try to reread the manga then try again.

No need to be salty.

In simply correcting your misinterpretation. I'm not saying she should've used her seal back then, she couldn't have. Because it wasn't ready
 

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Well yeah that's the thing. I expected her to show her parents more than the other characters. Who knows maybe they could have played a role in helping them understand what having a family is like?

Exactly. But nope, we got jack sh*t.

The main heroine, and she got less background than even Tenten ...
 

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She's just referring to her chakra which she has been storing. The chakra isn't from an outside source, so it's narutally her's. It's not like with Naruto and the Kyuubi.



Nice ad hominem. :coffee:



Having more jutsu=/=being stronger. 17 year old Tsuande is both physically stronger and more skilled than 17 year old Sakura. How is Tsunade not stronger?

Sigh. I never said it wasn't her natural chakra because it is her actual chakra. However the chakra has been taken from her natural reserve and put into a separate entity. Its like taking money from your savings and putting it into their checking, its still your money but its in two different places. Also try and remember that Katsuyu said herself she's connected to the "Seal's" chakra and that's why she was able to remain present (Tsunade was healing the kages). So why would the slug say seal and not reserves?

Also more jutsu doesn't equate to strength I agree but the complexity Of those jutsu should be taken into account. The Yin Seal is the pinnacle Of chakra control if you didn't know and reaching that at the age of 17 is a testament to Sakura's strength. Also provide me a scan that displays Tsunade feats as a 17 year old because all we know is that she had super strength, vitality and medical ninjutsu.
 
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No need to be salty.

In simply correcting your misinterpretation. I'm not saying she should've used her seal back then, she couldn't have. Because it wasn't ready
Salt isn't apart of the diet and you haven't corrected any misinterpretation As well. But your appreciated!
 

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Sigh. I never said it wasn't her natural chakra because it is her actual chakra. However the chakra has been taken from her natural reserve and put into a separate entity. Its like taking money from your savings and putting it into their checking, its still your money but its in two different places. Also try and remember that Katsuyu said herself she's connected to the "Seal's" chakra and that's why she was able to remain present (Tsunade was healing the kages). So why would the slug say seal and not reserves?

Lol Her forehead is not a separate entity. The Seal is apart of Sakura's body, remember? It's just chakra her own chakra focused in that forehead.

Also more jutsu doesn't equate to strength I agree but the complexity Of those jutsu should be taken into account. The Yin Seal is the pinnacle Of chakra control if you didn't know and reaching that at the age of 17 is a testament to Sakura's strength. Also provide me a scan that displays Tsunade feats as a 17 year old because all we know is that she had super strength, vitality and medical ninjutsu.

You do know that Tsunade and Sakura's "super strength" is just them releasing chakra from their fist, right? The fact that Tsunade was doing that at a much younger age and better than Sakura is even more impressive chakra control.
 
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Kishimoto is a horrible author. That's it... He shitted on everyone in the end including himself and his characters. It's not even worth arguing anymore cuz he produced a story that ended up contradicting itself in the end. Example: Naruto never loved Sakura...WTF???? Example: Narusaku moments were done to mislead you...WTF??? and for the record, i hate narusaku.
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This is true, trying to make Naruto into some sort of shallow person who only bothered a girl because hurr durr rivalry back fired so badly.

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Let me guess haku and iruka were also shallow persons.
He is free to make any pairing he wants canon, but he can't expect people to swallow any garbage he chucks out.

But no, he went ahead and made sakura some sort of love expert when she is the shallowest person in the manga.

He is a very good artist who can draw very well but he should be kept far away from story writing.
 
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Lol Her forehead is not a separate entity. The Seal is apart of Sakura's body, remember? It's just chakra her own chakra focused in that forehead.



You do know that Tsunade and Sakura's "super strength" is just them releasing chakra from their fist, right? The fact that Tsunade was doing that at a much younger age and better than Sakura is even more impressive chakra control.

The seal isn't physical by any means, its not connected to any bodily functions or organs. The seal (rhombas marking) is only on her forehead because that's the spot she decided to send her chakra meaning if she wanted to send her chakra to her left kneecap then the seal (rhombas marking) would appear on her kneecap and it would still do it's job. The only time it connects with the users body is when their 1, sending their chakra too it 2, relasing it. It's like donating blood and then receiving a blood transfusion with the same blood.

I've said previously that you don't wanna give Sakura her props or commend her work ethic and chakra control but I'll make the argument even worse for you..

Sakura was able to send chakra to her feet for speed and fist for strength during her fight with Ino at the Chunin exam.

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So with your logic Sakura was capable of doing what Tsunade could do at her age in part 1, right? I mean Kakashi praised Sakuras chakra control during Sakura's younger years, correct? So I say again child to 17 year old Sakura is stronger than child to 17 year Tsunade and that can be proven. Anything else?
 
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The seal isn't physical by any means, its not connected to any bodily functions or organs. The seal (rhombas marking) is only on her forehead because that's the spot she decided to send her chakra meaning if she wanted to send her chakra to her left kneecap then the seal (rhombas marking) would appear on her kneecap and it would still do it's job. The only time it connects with the users body is when their 1, sending their chakra too it 2, relasing it. It's like donating blood and then receiving a blood transfusion with the same blood.

Sure it's physical, the seal is made from their chakra. Which is made from the physical energy of cells. Unless you have scans stating otherwise.

I've said previously that you don't wanna give Sakura her props or commend her work ethic and chakra control but I'll make the argument even worse for you..

Sakura was able to send chakra to her feet for speed and fist for strength during her fight with Ino at the Chunin exam.

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So with your logic Sakura was capable of doing what Tsunade could do at her age in part 1, right? I mean Kakashi praised Sakuras chakra control during Sakura's younger years, correct? So I say again child to 17 year old Sakura is stronger than child to 17 year Tsunade and that can be proven. Anything else?

Lmao you clearly misunderstood what I said. Let me break it down.

Databook says Hashirama died before Tobirama became Hokage. Which is backed up by Edo Hashirama not knowing about how he dealed with the Uchiha clan. Now here is Hiruzen right before Tobirama's death.

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Here is an older Hiruzen training Tsuande along with the other Sannin. Where she is around same age as when Sakura fought Ino.

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Here is Hashirama commenting on Sakura's power-up.

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"Might". And this is how he remembers Tsunade.

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So at that age Tsunade was doing something similar to this.

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Tsunade>Sakura in chakra control.Lol
 
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Sure it's physical, the seal is made from their chakra. Which is made from the physical energy of cells. Unless you have scans stating otherwise.



Lmao you clearly misunderstood what I said. Let me break it down.

Databook says Hashirama died before Tobirama became Hokage. Which is backed up by Edo Hashirama not knowing about how he dealed with the Uchiha clan. Now here is Hiruzen right before Tobirama's death.

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Here is an older Hiruzen training Tsuande along with the other Sannin. Where she is around same age as when Sakura fought Ino.

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Here is Hashirama commenting on Sakura's power-up.

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"Might". And this is how he remembers Tsunade.

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So at that age Tsunade was doing something similar to this.

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Tsunade>Sakura in chakra control.Lol

1.Your chakra has nothing to do with cell, why can't you comprehend that chakra, finjutsu & energy aren't physical meaning the have nothing to do with the material world. Provide me scans that prove t hat chakra & energy have a genetic code.

2. You've constantly said that child Tsunades strength was greater the Sakura's and I didn't deny that What I've consistently said that Sakura was overall stronger then Tsunade when she was her age.

3. Tsunade didn't reach the pinnacle of chakra control, preform romte healing through katsuyu or even regenerate at Sakura's age. You can't deny that, right? Did Tsunade from the seal at the age of 17? Could she regenerate? Answer those questions and if you say Tsunade could do all of those things at the age of 17 provide a scan.


3. You then changed your argument by saying Tsunades chakra control was greater then Sakura's.. You also said that Tsunade could send chakra to her fist at a younger age then Sakura. I then provided you with 2 manga scans that demonstrated Sakura having the exact feat you say Tsunade had at a young age and Kakashi praising her c ontrol while also saying that many ninjas couldn't do that.

4. Sakuras chakra control = Tsunades.. Name 1 thing that Tsunade can do that Sakura can't? What makes her chakra control better then Sakura's, is it a particular feat or did anyone say it in the manga? Aagain did Tsunade have her seal at 17? Did she reach the "pinnacle" of chakra control at 17?

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