InfiniteMugen
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Maybe you should of specified time periods in op, not my fault you left gaping holes in your op :axedance:
Naruto never came close to controlling Kurama's power on his own
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Look at this; Naruto working so hard to knead Bijuu Chakra:
Kurama gathered on the NE and created the Three-Headed Avatar:
I mean, I can count other incidents. But, Jesus, what does this guy do by himself anyway? Not to mention Bee and Kushina helped him gain KCM. He did nothing much for it. BM just happened.
I mean, look at this, every single bijuu kneaded the chakra for his Rasengans.
Kurama does it for BM all the time. It did for the last battle as well:
So, what is he doing by himself, again?
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Kurama gathered on the NE and created the Three-Headed Avatar:
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I mean, I can count other incidents. But, Jesus, what does this guy do by himself anyway? Not to mention Bee and Kushina helped him gain KCM. He did nothing much for it. BM just happened.
I mean, look at this, every single bijuu kneaded the chakra for his Rasengans.
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Kurama does it for BM all the time. It did for the last battle as well:
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So, what is he doing by himself, again?
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Read the title, specifically the "on his own" part. He didn't reach that level until Kurama cooperated with him, therefore he didn't achieve it "on his own". How hard is that to understand?
1. Control is the operative word. Naruto's "control" over Kurama is the fact that he is willing to work with naruto to complete the task at hand, and that naruto doesnt have to put in a RFP 3 weeks ahead of time to get the chakra he needs.
2. Few people have ever controlled a Bijuu in the traditional sense, as in forced it on them, most recent examples being Madara, and Sasuke.
3. The story of Naruto and Sasuke is both a story of getting help from your friends. Naruto and Sasuke would have gotten wrecked by Haku w/o getting though s power up at that time. Sasuke vs Gaara went downhill fast. Even though Sasuke had back up he would have died twice to Killer B. Juugo has to assist him with the Raikage, Oonki solo'd him and he would have died without Obito, and without Karin to help him Danzo would have also wrecked him at one point in that fight.
I say that to say dont down play Naruto's acheivements because you look at one side of the situation. No Naruto has not "controlled" a TB, yes Naruto has had to have a lot of help throughout the manga, but Sasuke has needed a lot of help himself and his Major accomplishments have not been that great in comparison.
2. Few people have ever controlled a Bijuu in the traditional sense, as in forced it on them, most recent examples being Madara, and Sasuke.
3. The story of Naruto and Sasuke is both a story of getting help from your friends. Naruto and Sasuke would have gotten wrecked by Haku w/o getting though s power up at that time. Sasuke vs Gaara went downhill fast. Even though Sasuke had back up he would have died twice to Killer B. Juugo has to assist him with the Raikage, Oonki solo'd him and he would have died without Obito, and without Karin to help him Danzo would have also wrecked him at one point in that fight.
I say that to say dont down play Naruto's acheivements because you look at one side of the situation. No Naruto has not "controlled" a TB, yes Naruto has had to have a lot of help throughout the manga, but Sasuke has needed a lot of help himself and his Major accomplishments have not been that great in comparison.
InfiniteMugen
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Kurama wasn't handing out the chakra, naruto was handing it out. Kurama didn't tell him or show him how, he was even surprised naruto was able to do it. What your trying to say, would be like buying candy, giving it to somebody, and then that somebody like an idiot goes claiming the store gave it to them
Naruto without cooperation=1 KCM clone limit
Naruto with cooperation a few minutes later=Can freely pass out chakra to everyone.
Of course cooperation was a factor in his ability to do this. Kurama always regarded Naruto as lacking talent, hence why he always used to say "you're nothing without me" and stuff of this ilk. It wouldn't take much to surprise him since he had low expectations of Naruto's ability in the first place.
Wow bro its amazing how people can read a manga things go right over everyone's heads. It was never meant to be done all on his own, but its a fools errand to act like he didnt do a thing to get that far.
Sasuke does all of his traing and power ups off screen nobody bats an eye. We see step by grueling step how hard Naruto trains and people still butthurt over his accomplishments. And its only Sasuke fans that feel this way cuz you all think Sasuke got the short end of the stick.
News flash! SASUKE IS BEAST AND WILL ALWAYS BE BEAST. Its Naruto who needed to catch up, stop hating that he caught up.
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What are you trying to prove with this post? Seems tou are stick in part 1. Let me recap for you.
1) Trained in Senjutsu
2)Battled Kyuubi and learned to use its chakra correctly.
3)won the kyuubi over after fighting in a whole war obtaining new power.
4)Merged two powere to compliment each other.
I really dont understand why so many hate on Naruto. I will never get it. Especially when Sasuke himself never obtained power on his own before.
I'm going to restate what I said before, because you don't control a tailed beast the way you're explaining it. It only flows with 'cooperation' unless you're trying to force the Bijuu into something, which more or less relies on Dojutsu.
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Lmaoo how the **** can you control a tailed beast inside of you. 0.0 you mad because naruto beat Kurama with his own power and eventually became the meeting place for all the tailed beast. SMH somebody delete this post shit is disgraceful to this base