Naruto needs a new power.

[farhca]

Naruto finally gotten serious.. And you come up with this bullsh*t?

Dude.. why are you so hyped about Naruto getting serious? okey, let's say Naruto has gotten serious, now please can you give me how you think Naruto will beat Sasuke whereas the latter have Rinnegan and using 9 bijuu's chakra?!

My point

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Your head

Iʻm not arguing that narutoʻs going to wreck sasuke or even beat him, Iʻm saying that powers simply donʻt work like that. Simply having more bijuu chakra than another guy does not make you stronger than him. Kaguya thought that, and what happened to her? Narutoʻs using a form that hagoromo never accomplished himself, itʻs a form thatʻs created when all 9 bijuu willingly cooperate.

Yeah I agree with you a bit mate, powers dosn't simply go that way but sometimes when you compare the powers it simply isn't right, like when the difference isn't really big and the one who acctually have less power is more cunning and experienced in battle then yeah he there's a good chance he'd win but in this case it's really hard to imagine Naruto coming up with a great strategy outwitting Sasuke and winning despite the difference in their powers now, also it wasn't Naruto alone or Sasuke alone that beat Kaguya, it was Naruto and Sasuke ( some might even argue that kakashi and Sakura helped to some point ) but anyway my point is, when the powers gap is little then the weaker one might outwit the other one or something but when the gap is rather large, then you'll need a power up or somebody's help.

 

[farhca]

Well, he won't lose, I'll tell you that much.

Yeah I agree with you when it comes to that, Sasuke is really determined to kill Naruto so if he loses then he's as good as dead but we already know from The last upcoming movie that he will survive this battle from which we can conclude that Naruto will win.

 

[bashkim]

Naruto definitely need power up to beat Sasuke. Wood release is will do it, because it can suppress biju power.

 

[farhca]

Agreed! =)

 

[Shruikan]

Naruto winning this fight is too obvious to be true

 

[lanakui8]

Yeah I agree with you a bit mate, powers dosn't simply go that way but sometimes when you compare the powers it simply isn't right, like when the difference isn't really big and the one who acctually have less power is more cunning and experienced in battle then yeah he there's a good chance he'd win but in this case it's really hard to imagine Naruto coming up with a great strategy outwitting Sasuke and winning despite the difference in their powers now,

again your missing the point. Youʻre saying that because sasuke has X amount of bijuu chakra, heʻs stronger than naruto because Naruto has an amount far less than X. But thatʻs not necessarily true, based on the examples that Iʻve given. Power thatʻs born from willing cooperation is greater than just the raw power itself. Example would be base naruto + 50% Kurama vs BM Naruto. BM NAruto stomps, but if you break both teams down into their ingredients, theyʻre both powered by the same thing.

also it wasn't Naruto alone or Sasuke alone that beat Kaguya, it was Naruto and Sasuke ( some might even argue that kakashi and Sakura helped to some point ) but anyway my point is, when the powers gap is little then the weaker one might outwit the other one or something but when the gap is rather large, then you'll need a power up or somebody's help.

show me where I stated that NAruto soloʻd kaguya? I said naruto could fight at her level.

Your point would be true if the whole was = to the sum of their parts for all cases, and in the same ratio which isnʻt true.

 

[farhca]

again your missing the point. Youʻre saying that because sasuke has X amount of bijuu chakra, heʻs stronger than naruto because Naruto has an amount far less than X. But thatʻs not necessarily true, based on the examples that Iʻve given. Power thatʻs born from willing cooperation is greater than just the raw power itself. Example would be base naruto + 50% Kurama vs BM Naruto. BM NAruto stomps, but if you break both teams down into their ingredients, theyʻre both powered by the same thing.

show me where I stated that NAruto soloʻd kaguya? I said naruto could fight at her level.

Your point would be true if the whole was = to the sum of their parts for all cases, and in the same ratio which isnʻt true.

It's not just the amount of chakra mate, I think you're forgetting Sasuke's Dojutsu powers.
Also, you said Kaguya thought that it's all about chakra and stuff like that and I acctually agree with Kaguya to some point, it's not all about chakra amounts but if you have nearly unlimited chakra reserves ( like Sasuke now ) then you have a big advantage, also "fighting at his/her level", dunno about you mate but that dosn't really matter to me, Naruto being able to fight at Sasuke's level is pointless if he can't acctually win.

 

[lanakui8]

It's not just the amount of chakra mate, I think you're forgetting Sasuke's Dojutsu powers.

How am i forgetting them? Kaguya had the same sharinnegan as sasuke, the byakugan, had incomparably more chakra than he does, yet narutoʻs still able to hold his own against her. Add the doujutsu power, the rule still stands firm that you donʻt simply add all these powers up.

Also, you said Kaguya thought that it's all about chakra and stuff like that and I acctually agree with Kaguya to some point, it's not all about chakra amounts but if you have nearly unlimited chakra reserves ( like Sasuke now ) then you have a big advantage, also "fighting at his/her level", dunno about you mate but that dosn't really matter to me, Naruto being able to fight at Sasuke's level is pointless if he can't actually win.

Whoʻs arguing that having unlimited chakra reserves isnʻt an advantage? Is Sasuke = Kaguya? If not, then why does me saying naruto can fight at kaguyaʻs level imply that naruto canʻt beat sasuke? If Sasuke fights on kaguyaʻs level and naruto fights on kaguyaʻs level then both can beat each other.

 

[farhca]

How am i forgetting them? Kaguya had the same sharinnegan as sasuke, the byakugan, had incomparably more chakra than he does, yet narutoʻs still able to hold his own against her. Add the doujutsu power, the rule still stands firm that you donʻt simply add all these powers up.


Whoʻs arguing that having unlimited chakra reserves isnʻt an advantage? Is Sasuke = Kaguya? If not, then why does me saying naruto can fight at kaguyaʻs level imply that naruto canʻt beat sasuke? If Sasuke fights on kaguyaʻs level and naruto fights on kaguyaʻs level then both can beat each other.

Mate this is really getting irritating, First of all, for me, fighting on Kaguya's level means being able not to get killed right away, when you say Naruto and Sasuke can fight at Kaguya's level it seems as if you mean that it could either way like Naruto could beat Kaguya himself or Sasuke could do so too and that's obviously wrong, they both can't fight at Kaguya's level alone, they were simply able to stay alive without any help against her and that's acctually a feat.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I'd assume he's gonna get the standard rinnegan. (will make a thread on this later)

 

[farhca]

I'd assume he's gonna get the standard rinnegan. (will make a thread on this later)

That's quite unlikely mate, Wood release is way much more logical. I say he won't get the Rinnegan because his eyes in the movie are normal, The rinnegan can't be switched back to normal eye like the Sharingan right?

 

[lanakui8]

Mate this is really getting irritating, First of all, for me, fighting on Kaguya's level means being able not to get killed right away, when you say Naruto and Sasuke can fight at Kaguya's level it seems as if you mean that it could either way like Naruto could beat Kaguya himself or Sasuke could do so too and that's obviously wrong, they both can't fight at Kaguya's level alone, they were simply able to stay alive without any help against her and that's acctually a feat.

No, fighting on kaguyaʻs level means not only not getting killed, but also pushing he back as well as taking hits. Naruto speedblitzed her, he ripped her arm off, he overwhelmed her with clones, he overpowered her, and he held his own against her in a straight up chakra punch exchange. Thatʻs not merely ʻsurvivingʻ against her thatʻs fighting on her level.

And even if my argument was that naruto was able to just stay alive against her, that still completely trashes your argument about chakra levels and doujutsu since it proves that kaguya who should be able to stomp naruto without any difficulty due to having the sharinnegan, byakugan, and incomparably greater amounts of chakra than him canʻt.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

That's quite unlikely mate, Wood release is way much more logical. I say he won't get the Rinnegan because his eyes in the movie are normal, The rinnegan can't be switched back to normal eye like the Sharingan right?

In the movie, he has a bandage on his hand where the seal would be, making it all the more likely he has the rinnegan since he wouldn't be able to turn it off normally. It's probably a seal to restrict it so he doesn't burn himself out in normal mode.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Naruto just needed to bring the will. He already had the power.

 

[V h o]

Equal? Not all. Sasuke on paper is much stronger now. Naruto being equal would mean that old Sasuke was weaker or that the bijuu he absorbed didn't give him a power boost.

Although I do agree, that Naruto needs a new power/display more skills. Naruto is basically recycling old moves while Sasuke is using his rinnegan more and more.....

 

[Xāvî1]

The pair of madara's rinnegan!

 

[bashkim]

Yeah wood release in on the way. So no surprise. I thought Sasuke would use the bijus. Now Ashura chakra inside Naruto will bloomed and give Naruto his own power.