Naruto must end up with Hinata

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As I said, getting over Sasuke will be the same as Naruto giving-up on Sasuke.
She won't get over him, however, this doesn't mean that she will realise that her feelings are changed.
The confusion part is the tricky one here and it's that surprise element I keep telling about.
Let's be honest. Doesn't these unresolved things keep you up like " I WANNA KNOW NOW WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?!" while it's not happening and you keep, keep waiting?
All I have to say, in this particular matter, until now, Kishi is a genius.


People like this take manga and comics to deep
 

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If Sakura getting over Sasuke is like Naruto giving up then how does Sakura end up with Naruto?!

It is a contradiction. Sakura would have to be completely over Sasuke. Otherwise it is embarrassing for Naruto. His wife is someone who may genuinely love him, but will always think of someone else as the man she loved first....that's just shameful for Naruto.

It would be like Sasuke and Naruto having a race. Sasuke clearly blows Naruto out of the water in the race....let's day he wins by 20 seconds. But Naruto wins the first place prize because Sasuke had a .01 second false start, and is disqualified. Here Sasuke would have won the race whether or not he had had the false start, but didn't win because of technicality.

If Sakura went with Naruto despite still loving Sasuke I'd be very dissapointed...her feelings wouldn't have changed, she simply would have had more feelings developed, and decided it was a more benaficial choice....which would be horrible developement for Sakura...
Stop loving him isn't equal to getting over him so no contradiction. She wants as much as Naruto to bring him back and all of them be happy like they used to be.
She doesn't want him just for herself as it may have seemed to others.
Why then wouldn't she argued for Naruto for not bringing him back or why say "I finally hope there's going to be a happy end for everyone in Team 7"?
Because Sakura also wants Sasuke back for Naruto, for Naruto to be happy. Why do you think she went all-over with everything? But when she realized Sasuke would harm him, she decided to to what she did.
The thing is, those feelings for Naruto are developed, what she felt for Sasuke was pure infatuation, desperate confession just like Hinata did. No offence here, but looking at both of those confessions, Sakura was desperate that she's not going to see Sasuke, Hinata the same situation with Naruto.
Love isn't like that. Love is nurtured, love is built on respect, on being there for one another when the times are hard, cheering the other one up when you're down, be there for that someone.
All these things have been developed between Sakura and Naruto.
The confusion part is tricky here because she needs to see what about all those feelings. To distinguish which one is love, which one is desire.
But she's never going to get over him because as Naruto, would mean to give-up.
Indeed if things would work that way it would be not pleasant at all but that's why the romantic feelings with Naruto were developed whereas the ones concerning Sasuke, weren't.
Hope I made you understand what I wanted to mean. ^_^

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Because it is deep.

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listen none of that matters kishi has never said or writen that anything having to do with couples will happen to each his own opion untill writen by kishi and to the bold would she not have done the same for sasuke maybe more come no thats not proof an to the pic this is one of the reasons i said previous manga because the past proves nothing understand that fans of sasusaku use the past too now you could go on and say that there are moments in shipuden(not sure how to spell it) but most naruhina fans will just say its not current so to each his own till kishi says so
How come none of this doesn't matter?
If it wouldn't matter, Kishi wouldn't have spent all those chapters to develop it.
As simple as that.
 
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Its not that deep, eventually the author of this manga will choose whoever he wants and your analysing some parts that are straight forward ,(thereby overturning simple stuff )you probably have watched a lot of soaps and dramas
 

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Its not that deep, eventually the author of this manga will choose whoever he wants and your analysing some parts that are straight forward ,(thereby overturning simple stuff )you probably have watched a lot of soaps and dramas
Actually this is where you're wrong.
I just happened to study in an area where these kinds of things were necessary.
But if it comforts you to think that way, so be it.
 

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Stop loving him isn't equal to getting over him so no contradiction. She wants as much as Naruto to bring him back and all of them be happy like they used to be.
She doesn't want him just for herself as it may have seemed to others.
Why then wouldn't she argued for Naruto for not bringing him back or why say "I finally hope there's going to be a happy end for everyone in Team 7"?
Because Sakura also wants Sasuke back for Naruto, for Naruto to be happy. Why do you think she went all-over with everything? But when she realized Sasuke would harm him, she decided to to what she did.
The thing is, those feelings for Naruto are developed, what she felt for Sasuke was pure infatuation, desperate confession just like Hinata did. No offence here, but looking at both of those confessions, Sakura was desperate that she's not going to see Sasuke, Hinata the same situation with Naruto.
Love isn't like that. Love is nurtured, love is built on respect, on being there for one another when the times are hard, cheering the other one up when you're down, be there for that someone.
All these things have been developed between Sakura and Naruto.
The confusion part is tricky here because she needs to see what about all those feelings. To distinguish which one is love, which one is desire.
But she's never going to get over him because as Naruto, would mean to give-up.
Indeed if things would work that way it would be not pleasant at all but that's why the romantic feelings with Naruto were developed whereas the ones concerning Sasuke, weren't.
Hope I made you understand what I wanted to mean. .
Ok! I was assuming you deffinatly had more than what you had written there. And I agree that Sakura obviously wants to bring back Sasuke for more than just the feelings she had for him. Obviously her whole confession was partly to keep Naruto from the harm of dealing with Sasuke.

And yes I agree with the concept of love, but I will disagree with the whole Hinata aspect

While her confession was agreeably a rushed or desperate act....the circumstances are different. Sakura's was loosing Sasuke....Hinata's was because she was about to die & possibly still have Naruto captured. I mean its Pain she was going to "fight". But her feelings for Naruto aren't a simple infatuation. All through her growing up she has watched Naruto and sympathized with his desire for acknowledgement. And due to being a side character she barely gets any screen time, but they had at least two moments where they shared a bond. The first was Naruto standing up for Hinata during her fight against Neji, and the second is just before the chunin exam finals. Hinata is there to cheer and engourage Naruto when he was completely down. Not getting a lot of screen time doesn't help you bond with the main character XD!!!!
 
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Its not that deep, eventually the author of this manga will choose whoever he wants and your analysing some parts that are straight forward ,(thereby overturning simple stuff )you probably have watched a lot of soaps and dramas
I'm raised with the knowledge of not taking things too shallow and narrow-minded. Thinking deep isn't wrong, it helps me a lot. And yes, I do watch drama and by doing so I gain a lot of things but I don't watch soaps (I don't find white bars of substances interesting. :D)
 

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I'm raised with the knowledge of not taking things too shallow and narrow-minded. Thinking deep isn't wrong, it helps me a lot. And yes, I do watch drama and by doing so I gain a lot of things but I don't watch soaps (I don't find white bars of substances interesting. :D)
And that's great but the problem is there are things that are actually straight forward,if your in college you probably face this a lot you have good reasoning to be able to decipher whether something is simple or more complex, especially when you do researchs

Sorry for waiting your time
 

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Actually this is where you're wrong.
I just happened to study in an area where these kinds of things were necessary.
But if it comforts you to think that way, so be it.
What field is that?

You seem to have petulance of avoiding questions, stop beating about the bush and state what you want to say
 

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NaruHina fans, NaruSaku fans, let us end this ongoing conflict. Is there not any possibility where Naruto can just have both of them at the same time? It's a full gone conclusion that he's going to win this war, and after becoming the saviour of the world and fulfilling the prophecy of the sage, he should be able to pretty much get whatever he wants...
 

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Naruto is gonna die at the end of the series.

He will either sacrifice his life essence inorder to restore the world back into it's original state via the Juubi's (perfect form) power.

Or.

Sasuke kills him. xd
sasuke is gonna die... he will let Naruto kill him like Itachi lost to Sasuke...imo
 

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Ok! I was assuming you deffinatly had more than what you had written there. And I agree that Sakura obviously wants to bring back Sasuke for more than just the feelings she had for him. Obviously her whole confession was partly to keep Naruto from the harm of dealing with Sasuke.

And yes I agree with the concept of love, but I will disagree with the whole Hinata aspect

While her confession was agreeably a rushed or desperate act....the circumstances are different. Sakura's was loosing Sasuke....Hinata's was because she was about to die & possibly still have Naruto captured. I mean its Pain she was going to "fight". But her feelings for Naruto aren't a simple infatuation. All through her growing up she has watched Naruto and sympathized with his desire for acknowledgement. And due to being a side character she barely gets any screen time, but they had at least two moments where they shared a bond. The first was Naruto standing up for Hinata during her fight against Neji, and the second is just before the chunin exam finals. Hinata is there to cheer and engourage Naruto when he was completely down. Not getting a lot of screen time doesn't help you bond with the main character XD!!!!
They do share a bond, nonetheless, but that's the thing. The bond they share isn't romantical.
Why? Because Naruto would've done that for anyone whom Neji would call idiot or loser. Why? Because he had been called idiot or looser as well.
For example if it would've been Lee, to say, in his place, Naruto would've reacted the same way because he would sympathize with Lee.
But only here it happens to be Hinata. It is their moment, but it's not romantic.
I know everyone keeps using this as a proof, and if it fits them, I'm fine with it. But deep down there we all know it's not romantic, is more of a self-respect and fight-for others kind of bond. Dunno if I'm able to make you understand.
If it would have been a romantic one like others saw it, then Naruto wouldn't have suffered when Sakura asked him to bring Sasuke back.
The moments are there, however they're far from romantic at this point. Not saying that in the future they won't appear, but everything up until now, has been one-sided romance from her part and friendly-side from Naruto's part.
As for the confession, yes, the circumstances are indeed different, but the basics are same. Desperation of the fact they won't get to see their so-called loved ones. Naruto was about to die by Pain, Sasuke's going to be taken away by Orochimaru, take his body,same as death.
Now some Naruhina fans are under the impression that Naruto really loves Hinata, because he when 6 tails, this is complete fake thing.
First of all Jiraiya and Gerotora (the frog that holds the key to Naruto’s seal) said that the seal was getting weaker and anger causes Naruto to lose control and unleash the Kyuubi. Naruto started to lose control over the Kyuubi when Gaara died and he lost complete control when he faced Orochimaru when he wanted to save Sasuke. Now understand that the angrier he gets the more he loses control, Ino could have been in front of him and he still would have lost control and go 6 tails, now does that mean he loves Ino? Of course not, he just lost control.
Don't get me wrong, again, no offence, just want to make people understand a bit some differences but that doesn't mean they have to stop shipping the pairing.
You ship anyone because you do it, you don't need a reason. To you, they are perfect.
But still, let's not overlook the facts as well.
Anyway, going further.
Naruto was going to rip the seal and let the fox out and the Kyuubi was going to kill everyone including Hinata, so I don't understand why people see it as romantically for BOTH. It may be from Hinata's stand-point, but not for both of them.

In a relationship you need 2.Anyway.
You see here, the so-called big moment, Hinata was used as a plot device in order for Naruto to meet his father, in order for Naruto to go berserk and in order for Naruto to unleash the full power of the Kyuubi but his father stopped him at the last second. Hinata was the trigger, nothing more nothing less, she was just the trigger in order for Naruto to meet his father. And before calling me mean or anything else, go back and re-read where even Kishi makes it a bit obvious when Shikamaru says "Probably that's what triggered it" as in relate to Naruto's transformation.
Any why do I say infatuation? Hear me a bit before accusing me, as I said, nothing stops you from shipping it.
Hinata does not love Naruto. She is confusing her own feelings, she thinks she loves him but the truth is Naruto is her superman, she is confusing hero-worshiping for love, and she loves him as one would love a champion. She doesn’t know what kind of person Naruto really is, she didn’t spend any time with him, and she doesn’t really know him. She interacts with him about 5 times and it’s only for a few seconds. Now imagine if Hinata saw Naruto and Konohamaru’s little competition (sexy no jutsu). If she sees that she’s going to wonder if this is really Naruto and why exactly she has feelings for him.

With the confession, she just came out of the blue with “I love you” and basically died in front of him. If she truly loved him where was she when Naruto need someone to support him to make him feel better? She was nowhere to be found. That's why Kishi didn't developed her in this aspect. Because in order for Naruto to fall in love with her, she would have had to be there when in his best and his worst.

Naruto and Sakura spend a lot of time together, Sakura was there for Naruto when he need support, when he needed someone to cheer him up Sakura was there. Sakura became Naruto’s support and Naruto became Sakura’s support, they are always there for one another.
Hinata’s confession was done for her own sake, it was all about her. Also notice that when Hinata confesses her love for Naruto, she doesn’t face him, this is exactly like Sakura’s confession to Sasuke when Sakura and Sasuke weren’t facing each other. Kishi again with patterns, patterns, patterns.

You see Hinata has feelings for Naruto, 100%. She really has feelings for him, but there are not romantic feelings. She thinks she loves him romantically but the truth is she is confusing her own feelings for what she thinks is romantic love.
The same thing with Sakura's infatuation back in part 1 with Sasuke.
Sakura liked him because he was the dark cool guy, Hinata liked him because he was the one that no matter what, he was standing up. Like you said she has watched Naruto and sympathized with his desire for acknowledgement. Because she needed the same desire for acknowledgement from her father.

Now Hinata loves Naruto but not romantically. She loves him as one would love a champion, to say. He is all that she couldn't be. Naruto was strong, Hinata was weak (please note I am using past tense), and as you said and she said as well (chasing after him, all those things), she took her strength from his weakness and made herself stronger. That's not a bad thing in the end, because she found her source of strength.

However, she's confusing those feelings and think they're romantical.
You can't get romantical feelings for someone if you don't spend time with them, you aren't there in the good and in the bad, encourage yourself, what I told you before.

She does just the same thing Sakura did in part 1. Sasuke was the popular guy, she wanted to be the popular girl as well to win over her rival, Ino. Same with Hinata.
Saw Naruto not giving up, started to copy in a sort of way his style as well. Which is good, but it's easy to mislead it for romantical feelings.

Honestly, how do you think she'd cope with Naruto's perverted ways, with Naruto's lousy behavior, with Naruto's impulsiveness as she's always this shy girl that in the past, even fainted when he saw him. She doesn't faint now, but she's still shy and retreated towards those types of behaviors even though she is more confident (which I like about her). On the otherway, Sakura has always been there,Sakura always kept Naruto in check, Sakura can cope with this personality of Naruto, whereas Hinata hasn't show any sign of it.

Once again, don't get me wrong or anything, as I already told you, you're free to ship whoever you want, but you say that Hinata hadn't had the panel time to do so.

Well, why do you think she hadn't? If Kishi wanted to make them the ultimate pair, he would've spent time developing Hinata and Naruto together, but no, Kishi spent time to develop Sakura and Naruto together, to come to an understanding with one another, with his goods and bads and every other aspect I've mentioned.

That's why!

What I see now although everyone sees NaruHina, I see Hinata coming out of her shell, gaining that confidence to seek for Naruto's response and when she'll get it, she won't be destroyed (as in emotionally) by the answer, she'll grow the mental fortitude to overcome this and to get to an understanding.

Which I love, not because of NaruSaku as 99.99% would be inclined to think but because of her, because she'll finally show that she is able to exist WITHOUT her character's existence to be all-around Naruto. It's the stand-point for Hinata's growth. But with them becoming rather friends than lovers.
Because if Kishi would have indented them to be lovers, he wouldn't have written all that he did for other outcomes.

Don't get me wrong, say what you want, but give it a thought, a real cool one, by yourself. Today, tomorrow, whenever you feel like. And balance things, see which is weighting more. But keep the answer to yourself, don't say it to me and keep shipping whoever you feel like shipping. ;)

What field is that?

You seem to have petulance of avoiding questions, stop beating about the bush and state what you want to say
Sorry, but calling me irritating when in the written language you don't see any "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" or "???????????????????" is kind of wrong.
Literature was one of it. Back then I had to make insights, a character's characterization, testimonials or references to back all up.
And sorry, where exactly did you see me avoiding questions and hide about the bush? If I'd done that, you wouldn't see me coming here and making all those wall-texts for something in the end I could care less about.
But if this makes you feel good, than so be it, once again.
 
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no just no

how would it make sense since Naruto don't even look at Hinata

he going to marry with his toad summining
 
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To me Naruto and Hinata are the most likely pairing to happen because the progression in their relationship started ever since Hinata was introduced and their progression was always positive. Naruto started out thinking she was a dark boring girl to a girl he really liked in just one arc. But in NaruSaku in the beginning their progression was nothing then in the beginning of part 2 it slowly tried to blossom into something until we found out in the war that Sakura still loves Sasuke and Naruto finally started to acknowledge Hinata that made all of NaruSaku's progression seem useless. Also in part1 atleast one person had liked one of the main characters Ino for Sasuke , Lee for Sakura and of course Hinata for Naruto and coincidentally they were all side characters meaning their position as characters stood at the same place. Now in part 2 Ino's love for Sasuke was hardly mentioned same goes for Lee but for unknown reason Hinata's love was mentioned and also showed ,but why was that?Idk lets just wait ;)
 

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Fine, but at least I can prove what I say.

You don't like Tsundere characters so that's fine I guess. Jusy sayin how it is perfectly normal and in Japan it isn't seen as being abusive.
I like Tsundere characters, I just don't like Sakura. I like Karin, Tsunade, and Tenten.

Haha well you aren't alone....I noticed how similar to Minato Hinata is.

Both were completely out of the lives of the other except in the class where Kushina thought he was foolish similar to how Naruto found Hinata odd.

Both were shy to a degree towards the one they liked. Hinata was simplymore shy than Minato.

Also note when no one else went out to save the one they love. They alone went out to save them. Both of them went against people with more experience, but Minato is obviously a tad stronger.

Note also how Kushina only saw Minato's feelings after she was saved. She also fell for him only after he saved her.

So Naruto is like his mother, where Hinata is like Naruto's father....Kishi repeats themes so one could argue that this is a repeat theme of Kushina and Minato's relationship. Just with a swap in gender roles.
Exactly what I was trying to say. Here is some rep
 

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Fine, but at least I can prove what I say.

You don't like Tsundere characters so that's fine I guess. Jusy sayin how it is perfectly normal and in Japan it isn't seen as being abusive.
Kushina said find someone like her. Not Minato.

Clearly Naruto is more like his dad, both loved a girl but where quiet about it, both saved the girl they loved, both wanted to become Hokage.. etc etc..

He is like Kushina is some ways but more like Minato
Didn't Naruto ask Sakura out a lot? And in like the waves arc was like "Hey! What about me?!" After she asked out Sasuke.

If I double posted, I'm sorry
 
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