LoZelda101
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lol figures.
jap kids no problem watching anime, western kids kill themselves or buried friends in sand over anime characters
"Naruto manga is for little kids"
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jap kids no problem watching anime, western kids kill themselves or buried friends in sand over anime characters
I disagree Shippuden had Hidan, the Pain arc which were some of the darkest parts in the manga. War arc was pretty raw at parts, Danzo slaughtering ninja in the forest, Tobi snapping peoples necks to prepare for edo tensei, Obito flashback, Madara and Hashirama flashback, etc. I think it's honestly the art style of part 1 that gives the violent scenes a more edgy vibe the art style of part 2 was cleaner and less dramatic. Though some drawings in part 1 are definitely top tier dark of any shonen like the scene with Orochimaru in his basement. Severed feet in jars, naked men on the walls.
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LoZelda101
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on gamefaqs, the pokemon section, there was some guys *****ing over the pokemon anime, that's really lame. Everybdy knows that, but they are salty that ash ketchum lost the league again lol And other members started to say that pokemon needs a better and more mature adaptation.
But some ignorant guys argued that it's impossible cause animes are for kids, and for example, naruto the most famous manga, just 10% of the readers/watchers are adults nowadays.
but anyway people who say that is quite dumb and the pokemon base is really annoying.
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Well, It doesnt matter to me.I have encountered a few guys who said that Naruto is for Kids but they love Marvel movies.Naruto has much more gore than Marvel movies.Not like I dont enjoy Marvel movies,I even enjoy few episodes of Shinchan and Doraemon.
Look at One Piece.It has many childish looking characters but you can see the bloody action scenes it has.Either way you should enjoy the content, and not judge it on basis of which age group it is targeted at.
Look at One Piece.It has many childish looking characters but you can see the bloody action scenes it has.Either way you should enjoy the content, and not judge it on basis of which age group it is targeted at.
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Naruto isnt gory at all...
Its a kids to young teen manga. There's nothing deep about it that's beyond the scope of what would make you think it's not for children.
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But in all seriousness Naruto is a shonen that means it's marketed to middle school and high schoolers. The same goes for Death Note, Attack on Titan, Hunter x Hunter, etc. On the contrary manga like Berserk are strictly for 18+ because it includes sexual themes and a more mature main character. I will say that Naruto anime is more for a general audience in its prime time slot compared to one piece or dragon ball super which are aired in the morning and are noticeably less graphic and heavy.
You forget that Manga artists and writers work under completely different conditions than the Western comics or cartoon or animation industry. They have multiple writers and artists working on it and not a small team of often a single main writer and artist with a few assistants to help with clean up on a weekly basis.
Avatar The Last Airbender
Also known as Avatar: The Legend of Aang
Created by
Michael Dante DiMartino
Bryan Konietzko
Written by
Michael Dante DiMartino
Bryan Konietzko
Nick Malis
Aaron Ehasz
Ian Wilcox
Tim Hedrick
John O'Bryan
Elizabeth Welch Ehasz
Joshua Hamilton
Joann Estoesta
Lisa Wahlander
Andrew Huebner
Gary Scheppke
Kaite Matilla
Justin Ridge
Giancarlo Volpe
May Chan
Matthew Hubbard
James Eagan
That's an army of writer working on that. Comparing Avatar with a Manga is not fair nor it should be compare like that. They have different flavours.
Avatar couldn't really capture me yet. Nothing to complain about; I don't dislike it; but yeah it's a theme that doesn't captivate me much. Despite many attempts I don't feel any urge to read it regularly. It's mostly using an Asian imagery but otherwise cater to American/Western cultural sensibilities, especially with Yuri ending and a PC star caste and issues etc.
As for Naruto not being for kids- it's targeted at teens and what Japanese believe ok for teens rather than your own sensibilities from other cultures.
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LoZelda101
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Yeah that's all dandy until they try to say that in favor of superheroes which is where I draw the line. I'm aware of the technically.
Oh jean... You with your always disagreed remarks, will it take the infinite tsukuyomi for us to agree on something lol. What makes avatar great is that uses western perspective with anime style so well. Both design and story so well executed without anime/western stereotype while still being PG under nickelodeon. And for that it shouldn't be compared to both anime or comics. Anyway I disagree about the writing advantage. The more people who have their hands on the material causes more issues and inconsistencies, i feel manga has the advantage and even then that ONE editor ends up making or breaking the manga.
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LoZelda101
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Of course I'm going to disagree. You are comparing a Western TV show with mangas.
Not really. It's not like different chapters are being written by different writers. It's the all pooling in ideas and working on to smooth it out. They do not work on weekly serialization basis either. The story is written before hand and they they hire artists to work on it. And they take their time for putting it all together.
"Michael ( Occupation/Title: Head writer Co-producer and executive) reports that his first job was for MTV for a show called, “The Head.” By working on that show, he got to have first hand experience with the storyboarding and learning the process on the job. Then later, he worked on Mike Judge’s “King of the Hill” (and he emphasized how it was easier than working on “The Head” since of all the training and experience he had gained). After, Michael worked on Family Guy for storyboarding which then later transitioned with him working with Bryan to work on their own project for Nickelodeon, “Avatar: the Last Airbender,” and presently, “Avatar: the Legend of Korra.”"
"Animation work was mostly done by three animation studios in South Korea: JM Animation, DR Movie, and MOI Animation. According to Bryan Konietzko, the program was conceived in the spring of 2001 when he took an old sketch of a balding, middle-aged man and re-imagined the character as a child. Konietzko drew the character herding bison in the sky, and showed the sketch to Mike DiMartino. At the time, DiMartino was studying a documentary about explorers trapped in the South Pole. Konietzko described their early development of the concept:
“ We thought, "There's an air guy along with these water people trapped in a snowy wasteland... and maybe some fire people are pressing down on them..." ”
The co-creators successfully pitched the idea to Nickelodeon vice president and executive producer Eric Coleman just two weeks later."
"The creators wrote all of the episodes of the first season themselves, omitting "filler episodes" to allow for a concise story. Once the series was expanded from its original 12-episode schedule to 26 and then to 52, more writers were brought in so that the creators could focus on design work. Joaquim Dos Santos and Ryu Ki-Hyun, who worked on the animation and design of the original series, also became involved with creating The Legend of Korra, as is storyboarder Ian Graham. Jeremy Zuckerman and Benjamin Wynn, who composed the soundtrack for the original series as "The Track Team," also returned to score The Legend of Korra"
Of course when you have already worked on something for 4-5 years instead of 2-5 months before releasing it you have ample time to smooth it out.
Even for animation there have been more than one studio involved. It's a totally different process how American industry works. These aren't a one or two person with a small team (if they can afford it) trying hard to meet their dead line on weekly basis for years.
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LoZelda101
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lol going on wiki or whatever copy pasting info isn't really justifying anything unless you've actually seen the show to judge for yourself. that korra series atleast the first season (12episode contract) was painfully rushed and mediocre with one of the laziest finales i've seen in awhile and that was with the excessive amount of prep time and ideas to put it together, so that doesn't really prove anything. this isn't really a manga vs western animation. it's a novel vs animation discussion. and I feel the latter (novel) has the advantage because all the ideas and perspective will be from one person therefore saving far less time wasted in discussing their ideas and more time put into dedicating into drawing it out for the weekly or monthly release which in it's self is impressive. Now, look I know what you're saying that could be applied to such manga like one piece where oda legitimately takes his world building seriously and foreshadows quite impressively and still releases weekly then yes you are right. but then you have mangaka's like kishimoto who does the complete opposite, he focuses on his point on few selected amount of characters and builds off that only, and comes up with ideas as he goes along (which has it's pros and cons) rather than plans it all prior and honestly that could only done with a 1-man kinda army which is why I feel they have the easier advantage.
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