Im thinking of Age Gap
Jiraiya-->Minato---->Kakashi/Obito
Jiraiya-->Nagato
Obito is younger than Nagato? and Obito is young enough to establish akatsuki??
Madara got some of the 1st body during his battle against him. What most people don't understand is that madara fought the 1st just to obtain his DNA...he didn't care about winning or losing, getting the DNA was the key thing (going by everything that has been told to us) madara is definitely the 2nd strongest ninja of all time...1st being the rikodou senningreat question. Nothing has touched on what or how Madara came about the 1st body.
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but why did obito attack the leaf with the fox aswell as the uchiha?
i didnt look like it was part of the plan. also how has obito gotten so powerful so quickly. he didnt get any training with madara. he just awoke his sharingan got almost killed then half his body got replaced with a senju one then awoke his MS now suddenly he is kage level compareable to the fourth hokage who many thought wouldnt be surpassed.
There are a very limited amount of options when one teammate kills another, Obito must have decided that he didn't want to go about living a life where Rin MIGHT have always been a traitor.Its true that Obito is not the only one to have lost his comrades/love-interests/friends but all the other characters had no choice but to cope with it whilst Obito had an extra option, extremely selfish one at that .. hence the Moon Eye plan. He was still a teenager when all of this happened and it seemed like Rin was the only person in Obitos life that he cared for (maybe Kakashi a little bit as well) bcs we didnt see any other of his friends or even parents. I assume he was an uchiha orphan, much like Naruto.
However, I have a quarrel with one thing. Why not revive Rin with Rinne Tensei ? If Madara could be revived after such a huge time-span then there should be no problem to revive Rin as well. Why isnt that enough for Obito ? Or rather, isnt that what he wants ? Bcs I dont know anymore since he is cool with having just an ilusionary Rin instead of the real one. Its like he doesnt want to save her anymore but only making himself feel better .. just pure selfishness.
He did get some training with the original Madara, if you re-read, Madara says he will teach Obito 3 jutsus. Also, Black Zetsu probably furthered the training.was quiite a good chapter. althouigh i bet most of you have forgotten partially that tsunade is in half and that naruto is getting ready to fight madara.
i cant wait but this is a nice trip down memory lane.
but why did obito attack the leaf with the fox aswell as the uchiha?
i didnt look like it was part of the plan. also how has obito gotten so powerful so quickly. he didnt get any training with madara. he just awoke his sharingan got almost killed then half his body got replaced with a senju one then awoke his MS now suddenly he is kage level compareable to the fourth hokage who many thought wouldnt be surpassed.
wtf, more time you must spend on this kishi, yess hmmmmmm
OBITO is THE only ONE ???? ... then what would you call Kakashi , Nagato , AND ITACHI !!! They all lost comrades .. but you are are correct ... THEY Wernt Selfish as OBiToIts true that Obito is not the only one to have lost his comrades/love-interests/friends but all the other characters had no choice but to cope with it whilst Obito had an extra option, extremely selfish one at that .. hence the Moon Eye plan. He was still a teenager when all of this happened and it seemed like Rin was the only person in Obitos life that he cared for (maybe Kakashi a little bit as well) bcs we didnt see any other of his friends or even parents. I assume he was an uchiha orphan, much like Naruto.
However, I have a quarrel with one thing. Why not revive Rin with Rinne Tensei ? If Madara could be revived after such a huge time-span then there should be no problem to revive Rin as well. Why isnt that enough for Obito ? Or rather, isnt that what he wants ? Bcs I dont know anymore since he is cool with having just an ilusionary Rin instead of the real one. Its like he doesnt want to save her anymore but only making himself feel better .. just pure selfishness.
tsunade might not have to die for Naruto to become Hokage - she might get incapacitated like she did in the Pain Arc or step down although death is more likelyIf Tsunadae Dies will Naruto become Hokage, if so that will have to be shown.
Just to correct your mistake, I wrote "Its true that Obito is NOT the only one to .."OBITO is THE only ONE ???? ... then what would you call Kakashi , Nagato , AND ITACHI !!! They all lost comrades .. but you are are correct ... THEY Wernt Selfish as OBiTo
The leadership of the Leaf was decided by the people in it...so the uchiha and senju clan voted for who to make the hokage...the uchiha didnt want madara as the leader since they knew all he wants to do is fight, so they chose Hashirama...Madara left the village because he was betrayed by his own clan...he cameback to fight Hashirama to gain his DNA...that was his main goal << tobi even stated this -_- winning Hashirama would of been a Consolation Prizes. Also remember both Hashirama & madara could control tailed beast...so it was a matter of time before Hashirama could take it out of madara control and use it for himself xDDon't be a fanboy. Madara lost/tied in multiple battles with Hashirama who was considered THE greatest ninja of his generation. At the very least Madara lost the two most important battles. First being for leadership of the Leaf. Madara wanted to be Hokage and in that battle attaining Hashirama's DNA was not part of the equation and he still lost.
After such a humiliating defeat in front of his clansmen, he later returns with Kurama because he KNOWS he cannot handle Hashirama by himself, and STILL loses. Hashirama's DNA is a consolation prize. He is forced to live the rest of his life a cripple, living off the DNA of the man who ruined him. Unlocking the Rinnegan was an accident, as well as attaining the Heretical Demon Statue. His plans only came into motion by circumstance.
LOL...Madara knew combining the uchiha & senju clans DNA would bring forth the ultimate dojutsu - Rinnegan. Only thing he didn't know was when it would awaken - which happened to be nearly at his death bed. He knew all this by reading the Naka Shrine with his EMS which allowed him to decipher more of the scroll then usual...Kabuto deciphered the shrine by a theory and knew the secrets of Madara's body and the rinnegan -_-Hashirama's DNA is a consolation prize. He is forced to live the rest of his life a cripple, living off the DNA of the man who ruined him. Unlocking the Rinnegan was an accident, as well as attaining the Heretical Demon Statue. His plans only came into motion by circumstance.
i could go on...but ill stop therealso when madara fought Hashirama he never had the perfect susanoo...Since sasuke also has the EMS sharingan his susanoo is soo weak compared to madara. plus he never had the rinnegan we he fought Hashirama. if Hashirama was to fight madara now...Hashirama would lose. Hashirama was a ****ing awesome shinobi ofcourse xD but madara is alot lot stronger now. Therefore
EMS madara < Hashirama < rinnegan + EMS + perfect susanoo madara
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boring??? WTH dude..? i think it is gettin better every chapter... there are some chapters that dont say too much, but overall the history is growing darker by the day...This manga series is getting boring. 1/5