[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

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Nope, he's not an important character or even a supporting character. It's not likely that he would be Tobi.



I'm pretty sure you don't know what a plot hole is. In a good story, there aren't any plot holes. When we suggest that Tobi = Obito is a plot hole, it's because it doesn't mage any logical sense with the rest of the story which has already been established.

It's like we were watching Star Wars and Darth Vader was actually Luke Skywalker. That would be a plot hole because the story establishes Luke's father as Darth Vader, so it's logically impossible for Luke to be Darth Vader.

In this case, it's logically impossible for Tobi to be Obito considering the timeline of events, the age of Obito, and the character development of Tobi. That's why it would be a plot hole if Tobi turned out to be Obito.



The difference is that Obito's body was crushed by giant rocks and it would take a miracle for even his eye to remain intact and usable, much less his entire body.

It's entirely possible that Tobi is really Izuna (which is the most logical guess so far), and that he recovered Obito's eye after he died.
Your forgetting that Tobi's body has obviously been modified or is part of zetsu. During the fight with the 4th his hand dripped off. This could easily have been a way to repair the damage to Obito's body.

I think hid identity is a mixture of a lot of the theories. Izuna is the mastermind, Obito is the body, and Zetsu is the medium is which his body was repaired. We haven't gotten a back story on zetsu like we have other akatsuki members. I think he is the missing link in Tobi's plot.
 
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I would like to point some things to all. I don't understand why people go on and on about Tobi's identity. He couldnt be Obito because he's old, he fought the 4th hokage, he gave Nagato the Rinnegan , and so on. If you get ur head out of the gutter , you might be able to remember that he is supposedly "Uchiha Madara". When he said he gave Nagato the rinnegan, he meant it as if he was Uchiha Madara, but he is not. Some say he is old. And whoever says it, has seen his face where???????? Because of some wrinkles on the right eye?? Seriously? For those of you that says he knows too much. Yeah, there's ways of learning people, specially if you came in contact with Madara and Zetsu who has been recording everything since who knows when. Tobi has been lying for quite sometime like when he told Sasuke that the Kyuubi attack was a natural occurrence. Sounds fishy??? Regarding Kisame, it could well be that he saw the real Madara first or a Zetsu clone, and that could well be the case the second time he showed his face to Kisame the second time. Remeber that Zetsu can replicate even chakra!!! (Kisame clone anyone??) When Kisame was killed, even the the Raikage and B thought he was dead. Great impostor right? Regarding Tobi's skills, I've said it once and Ill say it again, the only real skill Tobi has is that he is difficult to touch cause of the intangeability. Thats about it!! and he is very good at using it, but thats about it. Uchiha Kaenjin (BTW, for all of you who said this was Tobi's real name , here :flaw: ) sure thats something new but notice in this last chapter how master tactician, Kamui Spam specialist Kakashi along with naruto have been able to beat him up. The main advantage Tobi had against previous opponents was that no one knew how his jutsu worked. And regarding the fourth Hokage's battle. This is further proof that Tobi is Obito, why in the blue hell would he cover his face if the 4th didnt knew who he was?????. Also, since the 4th hokage is a master beast thinker and tactician, well, Rasengan to the spine, 'nough said. Tobi was only trying to absorb him but notice he couldnt even use Izanagi as he didnt have eyes to sacrifice. Thats why he took part in the Uchiha massacre, to collect more eyes just in case. Im pretty sure Danzo has a alot to do with everything that has happened and there miight be a big cover up of something. I just feel it. Specially with what happened during and after VOTE fight , and with Uchiha massacre. Well, I guess next week will be seeing either a troll episode or Tobi's real face. What I want to know is what will happen after the mask comes off and the 10 tails is revived. also what will happen with Madara and them kages.
I agree with you completely. -3-
Tobi is a ****ing liar, yes. And just because he has eye wrinkles doesn't mean he's old.(Sleep depravation, anyone?) He really doesn't have any good jutsus, either. It would be impossible for him to be obito, UNLESS he were more than one person. And even then i highly doubt it was him, beacause Obito got squished like a bug.
 
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Someone mentioned that Kakashi and Obito was shown around the time this masked guy fought the 4th.... What if after he fled away from the 4th and kind of stuck around the out skirts of the hidden leaf awhile, somehow saw the fight between Obito and the guy in the cave. Using Izagni somehow saved Obito's life and recreated part of his body using the same stuff Zetsu is made of. The masked guy could have been getting old talked Obito into taking his place (Obito feeling like he owes this guy for saving his life agrees\or is brainwashed lol). He's taught all the secrets and techniques and the learns the plan.. That would explain how he knows so much About Kakashi and the history of the Uchiha and SO6P

Lol just something I've been thinking about.
 
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Why are there still people even talking about Obito being Tobi? Obito's dead. Tobi harvested Obito's eye. It's that simple.

Tobi harvested many sharingans. You can see the wall of sharingans behind Tobi during Sasuke's eternal mangekyou sharingan operation. Nobody knows who Tobi is because it hasn't been published yet. God damn it, even an Izuna theory (Madara's younger brother) is better than an Obito theory.
 
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Someone mentioned that Kakashi and Obito was shown around the time this masked guy fought the 4th.... What if after he fled away from the 4th and kind of stuck around the out skirts of the hidden leaf awhile, somehow saw the fight between Obito and the guy in the cave. Using Izagni somehow saved Obito's life and recreated part of his body using the same stuff Zetsu is made of. The masked guy could have been getting old talked Obito into taking his place (Obito feeling like he owes this guy for saving his life agrees\or is brainwashed lol). He's taught all the secrets and techniques and the learns the plan.. That would explain how he knows so much About Kakashi and the history of the Uchiha and SO6P

Lol just something I've been thinking about.
-3- Very possible...
 

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Someone mentioned that Kakashi and Obito was shown around the time this masked guy fought the 4th.... What if after he fled away from the 4th and kind of stuck around the out skirts of the hidden leaf awhile, somehow saw the fight between Obito and the guy in the cave. Using Izagni somehow saved Obito's life and recreated part of his body using the same stuff Zetsu is made of. The masked guy could have been getting old talked Obito into taking his place (Obito feeling like he owes this guy for saving his life agrees\or is brainwashed lol). He's taught all the secrets and techniques and the learns the plan.. That would explain how he knows so much About Kakashi and the history of the Uchiha and SO6P

Lol just something I've been thinking about.
obito died before the 4th became the 4th so he woulda saved obito before he attacked konoha and stole the ninetails other than that good thought
 
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Tobi got serious using his MS all of a sudden, damn! Tobi is Obito hooray( Banzai). That explained how his half body is part zetsu. To all theories and thread pertaining to that he is actually Izuna or some other ****ing bitches they're dead wrong.
 

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I just found out that Obito was a liar when he was a child which somewhat coralates to the masked Man... The masked man who fought the 4th had to have met with Madara and had senju in him, which would explain how he would have used Izagani to save Obito and after using izagani to save obito he went blind and passed on the secret plans and techniques to him...

In the manga it showed only 2 tomoe that Obito had when he awakened the sharrigan, but when it showed the flashback of Kakashi nearly dying to pain it had 3(this is off topic lol)

Thoughts are everywhere but I'm sticking to my theory until I see that guys face lol
 

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For the millionth time im telling you guys tobi is multiple people different people at different points in time with zetsu being there since before the figth with the fourth and a little after the fight and the valley of the end
 

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obito died before the 4th became the 4th so he woulda saved obito before he attacked konoha and stole the ninetails other than that good thought
Lol if you are right..
But what if he had Obito waiting in a hide out in something like a rehab using his newly created body... He returned to the hideout being hurt thought to start training Obito
 
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For the millionth time im telling you guys tobi is multiple people different people at different points in time with zetsu being there since before the figth with the fourth and a little after the fight and the valley of the end


For a billion times his 1 person that acquired a vast amount of knowledge and go LOCO over it and go power hungry.
 

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Your forgetting that Tobi's body has obviously been modified or is part of zetsu. During the fight with the 4th his hand dripped off. This could easily have been a way to repair the damage to Obito's body.

I think hid identity is a mixture of a lot of the theories. Izuna is the mastermind, Obito is the body, and Zetsu is the medium is which his body was repaired. We haven't gotten a back story on zetsu like we have other akatsuki members. I think he is the missing link in Tobi's plot.
I'm not forgetting anything. The fact that Tobi has Obito's eye has nothing to do with Zetsu or any other cockamamie theory about who Tobi is.
 
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