[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

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Ok now we see tobi has ms so how in the f*** is he able to use it all day everyday like its just a regular jutsu that absorbs tiny amounts of charkra!?!? And why hasnt he went freaking blind
that question my friend shall never be answered :sy: I'm with u 100%
 

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My prediction for next chapter we skip to oro and he tells us who tobi is and some of tobi's history. A page shows tobi's face then we jump to madara fight
 

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As expected, you could only see the hair, which we saw before. I'll kill someone if there is a break next week.

And yeah, it's Obito it seems.
 

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finally its been settled whether kakashi can kamui an entire body, not only can he do it, but he can do it in a dire situation with strained chakra stores,, the only realy enjoyment im getting out of this fight honestly is watching kakashi's stamina just shoot through the roof as compared to before, the actual fighting i feel so-so on. but weve finally seen the fact that tobi has MS, for ourselves, not conjecture, and next release we get to see who he is, and im telling you 90% of the theorist for tobi's identity are going to be butthurt when that info comes out lol, im just glad weve gotten to this point in the manga, but well probably be switching battle fields soon, it may be time to see what madara has been doing/obliterating xd
 

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Trash??? Madara's fight is atleast legit. Tobi could just shinra tensei that gay clone of Naruto, but noooo. Fck plot, fck naruto and fck Kishi
Im not sure if tobi can even use the paths i only think he got the rinnegan to summon the gedo? I mean have we seen him use any of the others?
 

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Hi let me just repost my post from Tobi ID thread to give some thoughts for those people who are looking for a reason for a 'good boy' like Obito to turn into a madman like Tob(I hope this is allowed):


My thoughts are split on who Tobi is, just like the majority, I'm thinking he's Izuna. At first I'm with the crowd that it's too far fetched to assume Tobi=Obito.
But, considering the recent developments of the plot I'm afraid I'm leaning towards Tobi as being Obito. Anyway, I won't post about my thoughts on Izuna=Tobi because it's almost the same as everyone else's(those who believe Tobi=Izuna).

Moving on, what I would like to share are my thoughts about Tobi being Obito.

If Tobi is Obito (i'm not yet 100% convinced,note: this isn't a complete explanation on how tobi=obito just a thought):

I think the reason Tobi became how and what he is right now has something to do about a character that has been overlooked and neglected by many but holds great importance to Obito and Kakasahi. That's right I'm talking about Rin. As we all know she died but unfortunately the reason and events behind her death are still in the Kishi's locker, it's still unknown, a mystery. I believe Kishi meant it this way because the story of her death holds the explanation why Tobi turned into a madman. First we all know that Obito loves Rin now let me direct you to that eventful day when Obito was stucked under boulders of rocks, He decided to give kakashi his right eye as a gift then he made a request a 'WISH' for Kakashi to take care of Rin. Kakashi took it by the heart and decided that he would be Rin's protector even stating that he(kakashi) would sacrifice his own life just to save Rin if ever it needs to come to that. BUT we all know that Kakashi failed 'cause Rin died for some unknown reason.

Now, another thing that struck me was Tobi's line in the latest chapter(597) wherein he said to Kakashi: "You've seen reality, you should be able to understand...No 'WISH' can become true in this world" He really sounded like a really bitter person to me, like he is carrying something heavy inside.

I think those lines about a WISH implies something deeper. Maybe Obito during his recovering and brain conditioning years with Madara covertly witnessed Rin's death and Kakashi's short coming of protecting her. This convinced him to totally go with Madara's plan as the only solution for the shortcomings of the shinobi world. Furthermore Tobi also said in chapter 597 that he 'wants to make a world where HEROES don't have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves' now we all know that this is a pun to the failure of Kakashi 'the Hero of the Sharingan' to fulfill a dying Obito's sole WISH>>>There was a flashback scene showing Kakashi standing before a grave.

As we all know, my thoughts are interpreted from translated materials so I'm really not sure if the wordings were correct from the original Japanese meanings, but hey based on what i read these are my thoughts.

(In addition, based on new developments I think both Tobi and Kakashi acquired or developed their MS because of what happened to Rin)

Anyway, thank you for reading. What's your take? :)
 
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i thought it was a great chapter... i personally can't wait for tobi to be revealed... it's gonna be funny as hell when these people are sure it's one persone and some people are sure that it isn't a certain person... i am not saying tobi is obito but kishi likes to mind **** us all the time and anything is possible in the narutoverse... so i'm not saying it isn't either... i just can't wait to see the people's post that are so sure that it is or isn't a certain person... like they themselves are kishi.. pisses me off...
 

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Now there is alot of logical thought on who exactly is tobi. The top two candidates are obito and izuna. They are alot of logical reasons why tobi can be obito or izuna. For people who dont believe it cant be obito cuz he was buried under rocks. in episode 140 it shows izuna in a coffin. That goes to show that anything is possible. so putting aside the logical thinking lets look at the pattern of the actual author. In the world of naruto, the whole series is based on the hidden leaf village. in that village the series is mainly focused on three teams.

Team Sannin
Orochimaru,Tsunade,Jiraiya

Team 4th Hokage
kakashi, Rin, Obito

Team 7
Sasuke, Sakura , Naruto

These three teams have alot in common.
1. There is a natural gifted genius in each one. For ex. Oro, kakashi, and sasuke.

2. theres a person who has alot of potential and works hard to become strong. For example Jiraiya, naruto, and possibly obito. obito is the hidden factor here.

3. theres a sensei outside of the team leader. For example, jiraiya had the toad sage help him learn sage techniques. naruto had jiraiya to help him with rasengan.
but what of team 4th hokage?? Now here the idea the madara saved and trained obito makes sense.

4. Out of these three teams there is also a good guy who transforms into an enemy. For ex. Oro and sasuke.Possibly obito?? again hidden factor.

I think setting aside the logical thinking and focusing on the pattern of the author is a better strategy on deciding the identity of tobi. if you look it at this way you can pretty much say that tobi is a ninja from the hidden leaf and that the only candidates can be from the hidden leaf not exactly obito. since the 4th hogake assumed tobi was madara because he knew all of the secrets of the leaf village such as the special barriers set and the seal becoming weak from birth.
i think tobi is not obito. just think about the 4th hokage vs masked man. and obito was a student of the 4th. your idea is invalid.
 
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