[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 581 Discussion and 582 Predictions
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edo tensai wilmaso
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this is to funny , ok it has been stated that you need uchiha and hashi blood(not gonna say senju because they prabaly were senju on ten-ten level) i think thats where a lot of you get confused....moving on it's funny that you would need both dna to perform a forbidden jutsu that was created by your clan , think about it why would you want to have a jutsu you created that requires dna of another clan...sounds kinds stupid right....moving on the only people in the manga we have seen use this are danzo who is neither uchiha or senju so he would need both...and tobi lol this really makes me think now that tobi is a creation and not an actual uchiha. so do you really need both dna maybe maybe not, but dont be surprised when itachi performs izanami and does npt have any senju dna.
but lastly how much actual truth has come out of tobi , i think he lies about everything. He lid to sasuke he's lied to naruto ,he's lied to everyone. so if you want to believe him that fine... just because it was said in the manga doesn't make it true , it also depends on who said it.
but lastly how much actual truth has come out of tobi , i think he lies about everything. He lid to sasuke he's lied to naruto ,he's lied to everyone. so if you want to believe him that fine... just because it was said in the manga doesn't make it true , it also depends on who said it.
iknowwhotobiis
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Edo madara implied that he knows how to return from the dead and he could have taught hashirama how to do it. Was referring to Edo tensei, rinnengan or izanami?!
The Rikudo Sage
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No one can deny that itachi is a smart guy although he has not fuumetsu mangekyo. But he is completely mastered sharingan skills!:
edo tensai wilmaso
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where does madara imply that , and why would madara teach hashi how to come back to life madara hated him and admired him but also wanted him dead.
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iknowwhotobiis
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The translations leave out context and details which help define the context. A perfect example is the fight with Konan.
Konan: 'You can only remain intangible for 5 minutes at a time.'
Tobi: 'Almost all of these are explosive tags!!'
Konan: 'I prepared all of these, all six billion explosive tags, to kill you! Enough for 10 minutes of nonstop explosions!'
Tobi: 'Almost all of these are explosive tags!!'
Konan: 'I prepared all of these, all six billion explosive tags, to kill you! Enough for 10 minutes of nonstop explosions!'
Right there they are setting up the context by which the next discussion will take place. 10 minutes of explosions later....
Konan: 'Madara must be....'
Tobi: 'Dead?'
Konan: 'How? You should be dead. I went over this plan, did countless simulations, it should have worked, it should have killed you'
Tobi: 'Dead?'
Konan: 'How? You should be dead. I went over this plan, did countless simulations, it should have worked, it should have killed you'
Right here Konan is asking why 10 minutes of explosions didn't kill him when he could only go intangible for 5 minutes, tops. So the context of the discussion is in regards to the other 5 minutes. How was he able to survive for 10 minutes when he should have been dead after 5?
Tobi: 'Izanagi. The forbidden Uchiha technique that has the power to connect illusion and reality, at the cost of the eye losing the light, permanently.'
Right there Tobi states that the reason why he didn't die after 5 minutes and his intangibility ran out, was because for the other 5 minutes, he used Izanagi. BUT WAIT!!! We know that Izanagi doesn't last for 5 minutes!
So how the hell did he make it last for 5 minutes?
Tobi: 'A technique that can only be used by someone, who possesses both the powers of the Uchiha and the senju.'
Notice how he doesn't say DNA? Notice that he only says 'powers?' The context of this statement is under the scrutiny of 'how does Izanagi, a technique that lasts for a few seconds, last for 5 minutes?' The answer is 'by having both the powers of the Senju and the Uchiha.
BUT WAIT!!!!! Does that mean I can just take the DNA of any old Senju? NOPE. It's also a context thing to know that he's actually referring to Hashirama Senju, and not just any old Senju.
BUT THE PEOPLE TRANSLATING THE MANGA/ANIME TO ENGLISH DON'T INCLUDE ANY OF THIS STUFF. It's contextual, assumed that the reader knows this stuff by just putting the conversations into the context of the story.
So my question for you is this:
- If the manga and the anime are so infallible, how is it that Tobi stated Izanagi was an UCHIHA technique? If it requires Senju DNA, it would be a Senju technique, would it not?
- How is it that chapter 575 was so butchered in it's translation?
- I'm fine knowing that people make mistakes, especially these people who are doing FAN SUBS AND TRANSLATIONS. I'm a smart enough individual to understand what's really going on, even if the context and details are being left out.
- Also, you know that Naruto says 'Dattebayo' after everything he says. You can hear it in the anime. How come every sentence that's translated and subbed in the anime doesn't include 'you better believe it?'
BECAUSE THEY MISTRANSLATE THINGS ACCIDENTALLY/ON PURPOSE.
You're a ****ing idiot if you think you're getting the entire accurate story from these fan translations. And you can take your 'Imma God' complex and shove it in your ass.
PCE NERD
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To the thick people trying to say Izanagi doesn't need both senju and uchiha dna
YES YOU BLOODY DO
It is stated in both Manga and Anime
So stop trying to pretend you do not need freaking Senju blood aswell you stupid fool
It is a power of the sage of the six paths because he had senju and uchiha blood, that where it originally came from
Konan vs Tobi, she clearly states that the power of the sage of the six paths and Tobi informs her you need both uchiha and senju dna to be ABLE TO USE Izanagi
So for the idiotic trolls that keep saying you don't need both dna
YES YOU DO AND I've just proven it.
YES YOU BLOODY DO
It is stated in both Manga and Anime
So stop trying to pretend you do not need freaking Senju blood aswell you stupid fool
It is a power of the sage of the six paths because he had senju and uchiha blood, that where it originally came from
Konan vs Tobi, she clearly states that the power of the sage of the six paths and Tobi informs her you need both uchiha and senju dna to be ABLE TO USE Izanagi
So for the idiotic trolls that keep saying you don't need both dna
YES YOU DO AND I've just proven it.
OK my friend il explain to you one more time because your slightly confused on a couple of incidents
1. Each izanagi has a different amount of time it can be active
2. When its on if you get hit you can change the course of action
Your getting to caught up on this whole " tobi can go intangible for 5 mins and konans blast lasted 10mins trying to account for the other 5mins" once you activate izanagi and you get hit you can change the course of action
This doesnt mean his izanagi lasted for 5 mins it just means during that last 5 mins of the 10 mins he used izanagi and survived that doesnt necessarily mean his izanagi lasted 5mins
I mean the way your talkin your acting as if konan was suprised tht izanagi lasted 5 mins WRONG! She didnt even know he could do the technique and when she does she states its a six paths technique asking how he can do it where he then says he acquired senju POWERS aswell if tht makes u happy
Your reading too much into it, it says that izanagi is a SAGE technique as the sage was the two clans together you really need to read it to the end rather than picking and choosing quotes! (thats how the tailed beasts were made)
And Dattebayo is his tick (his mom has one too) anyone who claims to know as much as u would know that it doesnt have a meaning just because he says (believe in yourself) in the dub doesnt mean its in correlation to "dattebayo" smh you have gone and made your own assumptions again
And your there again making your own assumptions on the rest of the senju, tbh know one knows what the rest of the senju are like the 1st was one of the best we will know doubt find out why very soon and if he passed any techniques down
and the senju are not gonna be trash if they can keep up with the uchiha who have "izanami" lol
But you know what im done ive disproved your theory based on facts from the ANIME and MANGA but of course "your right the ANIME and MANGA are wrong your right!!!"
OopsWrongHole
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I think he is, the idiot succeeded with annoying me with his stupid embarrassing comments, his only making himself look more and more of a complete tool.
and it probably would work on most senju as it worked for pain who is an uzamaki and of close relations to the senju just throwing that out there!!
(Im talkin about gathering senju blood and uchiha blood and getting sage powers for people saying it only relates to hashirama not the rest of the senju this is not the case as it also works on uzamakis seen with pain who was a known as the 3rd coming of the sage)
(Im talkin about gathering senju blood and uchiha blood and getting sage powers for people saying it only relates to hashirama not the rest of the senju this is not the case as it also works on uzamakis seen with pain who was a known as the 3rd coming of the sage)
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This should be it:somebody please.
i can not find the page, where its written, that for izanagi is needed senju, and uchiha powers...
would you post that page for me?
thanks
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